Heath Care in America...

...is fucked, I'm going to post about 2 pages of a 15 page paper I wrote comparing our current health care system to Canadas' as well as describing Bill Clintons proposition in 1994 that was shot down before it could even be seriously reviewed. Share your thoughts, and if you want to read the rest of my paper PM me and I will give it to you.


Is America Ready for a National Health Care System?



I strongly believe that America is ready for a National Health Care System and I think we should be doing something as soon as possible to try and begin to implement one. Our countries national debt could be cut down drastically if we could reduce the total amount of money spent on health care from almost 16% of our to GNP to 10% or less like other developed countries, such as Canada.
If we were to move towards a National Health Care System we would be able to cut down on the amount of specialists that are drastically unneeded. There is absolutely no reason to have more than 60% of our doctors in the country to be specialists. There is no need for it. There would be much less specialized and doubling of services that don’t need to be there. We can reduce the amount of these services to what is minimally needed and our health care cost would drop greatly by the elimination of such a replication of services.
We drastically need to make health care widespread and a basic right of people in America. There needs to be at least minimal coverage for everyone because there are too many people in our country that are living without health care. Everyone should have the basic right to at least be seen by a doctor, have a medical exam/check up, and be able to be served in a way that will improve their health. There are too many people that don’t have health care and because of this they will not go in and spend $150 to see a doctor.
We need to adopt something similar to the Canadian health care system and follow their five major principles. First, Public Administration must be there to ensure that there is public health care for everyone and enforce these rules on a non-profit basis. Secondly, comprehensiveness which means that all necessary health services need to be available like hospitals, physicians and surgical dentistry. Third, universality which means that everyone should be entitled to the same level of health care. Fourth, portability which means that regardless of where a person or their family may move that they should be able to receive the same coverage as the did in their previous living area. Fifth, accessibility which means that no matter where a person is in the country that they should be able to receive the same amount of care and it should be available to them regardless of location.
Funding for this should come directly from taxes, lottery sales and sales taxes. Taxes should theoretically go down due to the fact that if our spending in health care decrease by 30-40% then the amount of money that is taken in taxes and put into health programs like Medicare and Medicaid would then be put into paying for health care for everyone because that amount of money should be able to provide for everyone.
Another reason for this would be that most of the health care services would become not for profit which would reduce costs of health care. Currently some hospitals, nursing homes and other facilities are for profit which is another factor that raises health care costs. Putting everything into a National Health Care System would eliminate this type of practice benefiting many of our residents.
I strongly believe that our country is in dire need of a National Health Care System. With all of our other economic drains like the war on terror we need to find a way to reduce the amount of money spent in this country to decrease our national debt and make sure that everyone in the country can afford health care. Also we need this so that everyone will be able to receive health care. I believe not being able to receive health care is like not being fed at a food drive. So many people get sick and stay sick because the simply can not afford to go to a doctor and this is something that needs to be addressed immediately. Doing this could theoretically reduce the incidence and prevalence of many acute and chronic diseases which is something that would improve the quality of life that so many people in our country strive for and deserve.

By the way, and this isn't to brag, but I got the highest grade on this paper in the class with a 98. I got an A in this class.

Under Hillary Clintons Socialized system you wouldnt be able to choose your own doctors , they would be chosen for you. All your meds would be genaric sometimes thats ok sometimes its not. If you were really sick and wanted a speacialist for a heart transplant or something like that you wouldnt be able to pick your doc. If you are gonna have something like that done I would really want to find my own doctor. It seems that we would be moving closer and closer to Socialism and thats not what this country is about. The real problem is insurance and the monopoly they have on us not the doctors. My union spends almost 14,000 a year for insurance for each member, we have 3000 member here and they say we cant find it any cheaper?? Check out your local county or state hospital where people with out insurance and illegal alliens go , thats the kind of care you will get with a socialized system. Its not real good here in KC. Thats my opinion.

Local124bro said:

Under Hillary Clintons Socialized system you wouldnt be able to choose your own doctors , they would be chosen for you. All your meds would be genaric sometimes thats ok sometimes its not. If you were really sick and wanted a speacialist for a heart transplant or something like that you wouldnt be able to pick your doc. If you are gonna have something like that done I would really want to find my own doctor. It seems that we would be moving closer and closer to Socialism and thats not what this country is about. The real problem is insurance and the monopoly they have on us not the doctors. My union spends almost 14,000 a year for insurance for each member, we have 3000 member here and they say we cant find it any cheaper?? Check out your local county or state hospital where people with out insurance and illegal alliens go , thats the kind of care you will get with a socialized system. Its not real good here in KC. Thats my opinion.

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i agree... with universal health care, like any other government program, we end up with the lowest common denominator. we'll end up paying what one would now for the BEST health care while getting "free clinic" service... of course since it'll be paid for by our tax dollars so you won't have a say in the matter. all it'll do is average everyone DOWN and then those who can afford it will choose to instead of using their now "free" health care plan to pay MORE to get the same quality of service they are now getting.

who wins: illegals, the extremely poor, and the health care/insurance industries.

who loses: everyone in between.

the government shouldn’t get involved with business. But, health care shouldn’t be considered business. Its a necessity. we've had a hands off approach and look what happened.

someone is getting rich with the current system. We just need to end that. I have no problem with controlling hospitals, doctors, and pharmaceutical companies so that the middle and lower class can afford healthcare again.

Some of you are still in college, so you don’t know what its like. Let me give you an example. When I graduated from college and got my first job, healthcare was just non- issue. Not because I didn’t need it, but because every employer offered it for cheap. Now, 15 years later, my current job wanted to pay me 5 dollars an hour less for less coverage. Because the economy sucks so bad here, and I was already taking a 12 dollar pay cut, I couldn’t afford the 5 dollars less an hour. So I went uninsured for a year, till I got married and covered under my wife’s plan.

I have been without insurance sine 2000, when I got married. My wife got covered under the medicare when she got pregnant and my kids were always covered under that as well. However, when we moved the school made me take out enough loans to cover my entire household with insurance and it really is a good feeling knowing that when something goes bad, because I always does, we will be covered. I can't tell you the amount of hospital bills we've had to pay off over the years.