Clear Simple Help required for IGF-1 Mixing. Please save me from conflicting advice.

Hi everyone. This is my first post on the board so please go easy.

Firstly thanks to the owners and operators of this board. It's well moderated and the input I have read seems genuine, well informed and ego free.

Definitely a unique trait. I thank and salute you.

Doing my best to research IGF mixing protocols, and the amount of conflicting advice is amazing.

I'm a newbie u could say, and am switching to IGF after one months rest from a 10 month course of HGH and t3.

Please excuse the simplicity and layman's approach to my questions.


I will be using 1ml needles ( 100 units ).

I now have 2 Vials - each containing 1ml ( 1000mcg / 100units ) of IGF-1 lr3 (How do u say 'hopefully' in chinese?).

To make it easier, can we please talk in Units, as the needles are 100 units.

1. Some say only mix the Acetic Acid to the IGF. Add the BW only when shooting. Is that correct protocol?

2. Assuming this is correct, how much AA should I add to the 1ml vial of IGF?

3. This is the scary part. Dosage. I would like to inject 25 units subQ, twice daily. I know I sound stupid, but would the 25 units be the amount drawn from the IGF + AA mix... not including the BW?

4. Assuming this is correct, would I draw 25 units of BW, then 25 units of premixed IGF + AA?

Other people say add the AA and BW together at a rate of 7:1.
This kind of throws the whole thing out of sync for me.

5. If the above protocol is better, exactly how many units of AA, and BW should I add to a 1ml vial of IGF-1?

6. Assuming the above protocol, 25 units of this mix is spot on - right?

Timid and stupid questions I know, but your patience and wisdom is more than appreciated.

So much of what I have read is contradictory. It's kind of freaking me out. So I really want to get it right, from experienced ego free people who care to share - even with a dumb, but well meaning newbie such as myself.

I guess we were all newbies once.

Thank you all very much for your kindness and expertise.

Peace and good health to you all.

the old way of thinkimng was you couldnt suspend igf with anyting until u were ready to use it, howver as you can read through our hundreds upon hundreds of customers who use it prediluted in acidic acid, that it works great this way and also keeps good for a long long time prediluted, so nothing to worry about there

now if u have a 100 unit syringe to measure with, the way to find out the dose you want to take in mcgs is by multiplying each mark on the syring by 10. so the 10 mark on syring is actualy 100mcgs and the 20 mark is 200 mcgs and the 30 mark is 300 mcgs all the way up to the ten mark on the syring which would be 1,000mcg which is a full bottles worth as it comes 1mg/ml which is equivalent to 1,000mcgs

so if u want to use say 50mcgs u measure halve way up to the ten mark on ur syring, if you want to use 100mcgs daily you fill the syringe to the ten mark

just remeber to get the mcgs you multiply each mark by 10. And suspended igf is and has been stable in acidic acid for many many years now and ur more then welcome to read litterly hundreds and hundreds of our customer reviews who use our product with great success

Thanks bro.

Cool. Thank you kindly bro for the 'soft sell' of your fine product, and the lesson on measuring liquid volume. Very helpful indeed.

Your product must be very special indeed because all the text books point to the progressive protein destabilisation, aggregation and loss of bioactivity overtime of IGF when suspended in liquid. Not to mention the fact that the extremely fragile peptide doesn't travel so well, so shaking or high temperature is a real problem - meaning the product that arrives at the door, might not always have the same potency each time - depending on its treatment in transit. You have obviously overcome these hurdles, with many hundreds of rave reviews from your expert customers. My hat off to you - and I am strongly considering trying your product. Many thanks bro.

This still leaves me with the question of how to mix the 1ml vials of IGF-1 I have now - as per my original questions.

How many units of AA should I add to the 1ml vial I have now?

How many units of BW should I add?

Can I add the water to the vial with AA at a rate of 7:1, as so many people advise, or should I just add the water at injection time?

In this case, how many units of each should I add to the 1ml vial?

And with this in mind - what would the actual IGF dosage be - not liquid volume - because the igf now would contain AA + NACL.

Maths has never been my strongest point.

Thanks people.

Peace and good health.

QUESTION REMOVED

I found my answer, looking in the forums.

Dude, not to hijack the thread but, you write well. I hope you become a member and start hanging out with us here.

I don't know if you were being sarcastic in the 2nd post but it sure seemed like it. I wont be a jerk about it, but play nice if you were. Anyways, don't add water to your IGF until you are about to inject it. You can suspend IGF in AA and it shouldn't damage the peptide. You seem to know a bit about IGF from your text book readings but in the real world things behave differently. Like pre-diluted IGF does work despite what the "text books" say. I can't say they work better or worse than undiluted IGF, but I know for a fact that they both work. Things may be different as times have changed but I think this same info applies.

I would just add 1ml or cc of AA to your vials. That is 100 units on a U-100 1cc syringe. That would make each "tick" 20mcgs I believe.

1ml = 1000mcg. 100 tics would be 10mcg/tic.

Great advice - thank you so much.

Not sure why I got the sarcasm lecture. We are all adults - and this forum provides an intelligent, ego free platform for open discussion. Of all the forums I've visited, this seems to have the most generous and sincere contributers I have encountered. I really appreciate the balanced and honest advice supplied by all-comers, who want to share their ideas and experiences, and in a way that even a lame novice like me can benefit from. People are free to agree, disagree, examine, question, inspire, devise and theorise. The moderators and owners of this board have shown their ego free dedication to helping others, as well as their right to promote their product in a balanced and conscionable way.
Frankly I am more than impressed. My thanks to the site and it's contributors. You set a great example of harmonious sharing and positive internet usage.

Peace and Health

Here's a link to some reconstitution guidelines for peptides like IGF.

http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?t=42325