Obama not a US citizen??

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February 25, 2009
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

Using words such as "imposter" and "usurper," an active-duty Army officer in Iraq has joined a California lawyer's lawsuit intended to force President Barack Obama to prove he is a legal U.S. citizen, and therefore able to legally serve as the commander in chief.

"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office -- an impostor," 1st Lt. Scott R. Easterling states in his letter published at Defendourfreedoms.com.

An Army spokesman told Military.com today that officials are aware of Easterling's letter.

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"We are taking a look at that ourselves right now," Lt. Col. Christopher Garver said. "We are always trying to balance our ... military requirements under the Uniform Code of Military Justice versus critical freedoms that all Americans enjoy."

California dentist turned attorney Orly Taitz, who has brought the lawsuit, told Military.com Tuesday that it is her "understanding that there will not be a serious consequence to his career [for his statements], but I don't know for sure."

"I told him 'you're doing something very brave for this country, and that you can call me any time, 24/7 [for advice],' " she said. "If you're investigated by [the judge advocate general] and if there are any hearings ... and if an officer is defending you, I will provide documents totally proving it's illegitimate for [Obama] to be president."

The story was first reported in the right-leaning World Net Daily news site Feb. 24.

Taitz said she is willing to go to Iraq for Easterling's defense. Her Web site includes names and photos of congressmen and retired service members who she says are supportive of the lawsuit intended to force Obama to present documents showing he is an American citizen.

While Obama has presented a legal Hawaiian birth certificate, Taitz and others claim the state historically has permitted American parents of children born in other countries to apply for such documents. Easterling says he wants to see a "vault copy," which is not explained in his letter but is taken to mean the original document.

In his letter, Easterling said he was a KBR contractor in Iraq in 2005 and 2006, then joined the Army when it raised the maximum enlistment age to 40. He said he attended Officer Candidate School and was commissioned a second lieutenant in August 2007.

After an assignment to Fort Knox, Ky., he was deployed to Balad. He was promoted to first lieutenant on Feb. 2.

He said in his letter that it pains him to join the lawsuit against Obama, "but as an Officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this action."

"I implore all Service-members and citizens to contact their Senators and Representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced."

Attorney Mathew B. Tully of the Washington, D.C.-based firm Tully Rinckey PLLC, cautioned "that nobody's actually heard directly from this ... lieutenant. We're getting this from a third party with an axe to grind."

It has happened in the past, he said, that stories emerging from the combat theater turn out to be wholly or partially false.

If true, however, Easterling, as an Army officer, "is subject to ... [provisions] against using contemptuous language toward the president." There were such incidents in the 1990s, he said, when service members were disciplined for comments made against President Clinton. In one case brought under the provisions of Article 88 of the UCMJ a major general was forced to retire for comments he made, Tully said.

Easterling also could be charged with conduct unbecoming an officer, he said.

If an officer actually believes there has been some misconduct by the president, Tully said, there are ways he could have responded.

Under Article 138, he said, any person can bring an allegation of misconduct by a commander through the chain of command, "though I don't think [it] has ever been used to allege misconduct by the president."

He may also have tried reporting his allegations under the whistleblower protection act, Tully said. But the Defense Department directive on that spells out the inspector general and the Congress as the places to take allegations, he added.

"People in the military ... have rights protecting them for reporting [alleged] misconduct, but there are strict procedures," Tully explained. "And joining a civil lawsuit and calling the president of the United States an imposter is not one of those avenues."

Tully said there already is extensive case law involving these allegations about Obama's birth and citizenship -- at least 10, he said -- that have been dismissed.

"And on TV last night I saw the chief of staff of the Army salute President Obama, so there are a lot of people who believe he is the president," Tully said.
 
Looks to me like this Army officer is screwed. I don't know if Obama is a citizen or not and if they find out he's not get him outta there. But if this guy really thought it would work he could easily have convinced other people the same thing and let them handle the suit, no need to risk his job for it. But that's just my opinion. If he can't work under Obama he needs to say that and take the appropriate steps to get out as well as deal with the consequences as he signed up for a fixed amount of time regardless of who the president is.

With that said....I am not an Obama fan and if this is legitimate I hope that it will come out. However, with all of the power he now holds...I doubt that it will ever happen. Best thing I can do is accept it and hope for the best and maybe....I'll be surprised.
 
Just let the guy do the work. I dont really give a shit at this point. The guy was one of the only politicians who was saying there needed to be something done with our economy 10 years ago.

atleast he doesn't have his head up his ass like jr. did.
 
yeah he said that 10 years ago and still voted for everything Bush did lol. I cant stand the prick, he talks a big game and well see if he backs it up. Hes making promises that he more then likely wont be able to keep though.
 
Obama is a disgrace IMHO. He's been in office less than 2 months and let's recap...

1. The American people elect a black president with a
total of 24 days experience as a U S Senator from the most politically
corrupt state in America, whose governor is ousted from office. The
President's first official act is to close Gitmo and make sure that
terrorists civil rights are not violated.

2. The U.S. Congress rushes to confirm a black
Attorney General, Eric Holder, whose law firm we later find out represents
seventeen Gitmo Terrorists.

3. The CIA Boss, Leon Panetta with absolutely no
experience, has a daughter, Linda, who we discover is a true radical anti-American activist and a supporter of all the anti-American regimes in the western hemisphere.

4. We got the most corrupt female politician in America as
Secretary of State -- bought and paid for.

5. We got a Tax Cheat for Treasury Secretary who fails to pay and
file his own taxes.

6. A Commerce Secretary nominee who withdrew due to
corruption charges, New Mexico Governor.

7. A Tax cheat nominee for Chief Performance Officer
who withdrew under charges.

8. A Labor Secretary nominee who withdrew under
charges of unethical conduct.

9. A Secretary HHS nominee who withdrew under charges
of cheating on his taxes, Tom Daschle.

........and that's just the first few weeks. . . but
who's counting?

But aside from that he's doing great :rolleyes:
 
We are at a time when this country could seriously fail.

Maybe all the listed above is true. But we have to face it, this guy is it. this administration is it. We dont fix the problems now, we're fucked. Seriously- it might already be to late. These bailouts cant continue... we cant keep borrowing money that we dont have. At some point, there is a bottom. When that happens you will starve. I know my city is going to burn-so atleast ill be warm.

peace.
 
Two items to address that have absolutely killed this country... Outsourcing of goods which ended tons of American Jobs and especially the monopoly known as walmarts issues with outsourcing and also the thinking involved with such things as deficit spending. What on earth is that besides stupid. We have loaned people money who can never pay it back to pursue the American Dream in many cases minus hard work, and we continue to borrow money from foreign entities and allow them large ownership in many American markets. Scary if you ask me. If Obama isn't a citizen now we are outsourcing our president as well. Just some rants on my soapbox to contemplate.
 
The market with inflation etc. input into it is not very far from where it was during the great depression.

Oh and if you dont give up your guns your racist lmao had to throw that in there ;).
 
dont forget the deregulation of banks.

I still think the government doesnt get that we cant just trade paper. We need to make shit. till we get that solved, we're f-ed.
 
I'm curious what Obama's given name was. Heard a lot of different things but would like to clear up the name change thing. Also
find it interesting he never cop's to being half white.
 
Barack is a christian name. Read about the battles for the holy land and Barack was an unlikely hero for the jews.

I dont give a rats ass what his name is. The fact is we have a globalized economy so when we fail so do other countries and thats when we are fucked because some of those coutries have nukes and it seems that the biggest fear we should have is when old supply diminishes and there is an all out holy shit war for the reserves of the world.......Im not worried about now. Im worried about 10-20 years from now when the shit really goes belly up.

If we dont divert to renewable energy (Nuclear e.g.)..........well shit. We wont be able to see our kids grow up.

At least we are finally focusing more attention on the guy responsible for 9-11.......bin laden and afganistan. I cant believe we went after hussien for 9-11...... talk about bush causing a mass distraction and making a very few select individuals very wealthy. Because damn did a few americans profit from this pain.....Many got rich and some got very wealthy.

I just dont understand anyone blaming baracks policies for our problems when our problems clearly came from an incompetent and one of the most criminal presidents in history GEORGE W. BUSH !!! He took our rights by calling it a PATRIOT ACT.........He did exactly what nixon did at watergate but he learned from nixon and called a criminal plan the "PATRIOT ACT".......that was the genious to his madness. He is no better than nixon he just happened to use the war to take away our rights.........

Chicago sucks man. Speed traps and cameras in every corner.......The reason I fuckin left. I dont want to be watched bangin my girl in the bushes.
 
I seriously wonder if bush was the anti-christ. we wont know for quite some time how much damage he did in 8 years. Its funny that people want to beat up obama after 100 days, but kept there mouths shut while they've been getting corn holed thought those 8 years.

anyone that votes just republican or just democrat, is an idiot. I say we get rid of that bullshit all together and just vote on the person and get rid of the party.
 
Praise Jebus He shall save us. In 8 years your going to miss George W. Bush lmao.
 
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Way back when, when they started the two parties - Republican and Democrat - Thomas Jefferson said "Goverment is no longer
for the People". He was right - it is now all about a power strugle not what is best for us.
 
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