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Chris-Winfield
08-07-2009, 03:47 PM
How do you feel about this?

My bro is working at perdue , the chicken company and before he got hired he had received I check from a lawsuit that was done on perdue. Because they were hiring pretty much nothing but illegal immigrants so ALL people who put in job applications during this time got a 680 dollar check for just signing their name on a piece of paper to be part of the lawsuit. Which they didnt have to do anything else.

Well my bro just got hired a few days ago now , and hes working with pretty much entirely prison inmates.

They get paid the same as him , the bus transports them to do the job , then back home to their cell.. Which we pay tax dollars for their living , and food. While they can go out and work a job bring in a normal income.

Yes they still have it in a small cell and all , but thats because they deserve it.

I in my opinion just dont think its right that we have to pay taxes for them to support them , and then ontop of that they take up jobs.

Yah they still get taxes taken out on them. Which some of those taxes go to paying for their cell and food , but we pay for it , for the most part because their not buying it directly just the amount taken it for taxes. The rest is saved up if they choose to save it and when they get out if they ever do get out. They have alot of money saved because limited things to spend on , including no bills.

mcgaret
08-07-2009, 07:30 PM
It would be interesting to see if the prison is taking out a amount that they charge a day to pay for their stay in prison. Some states
do this and some are proposing it (with the gov. hurting so much for $$) I think one of them was trying to charge wealthy inmates
$90 a day. Just something I recently saw on TV. If it's how you say and they get to keep the $$ then thats fucked up. A lot of
non-incarcerated people are looking for jobs. I wouldn't be surprised though with the way our Gov. runs things.

NAIR
08-07-2009, 07:44 PM
Seems like a possible good step in the right direction in terms of rehabilition. I doubt these guys are locked up in max-security or are serving hard time. No way. Probably more like a half-way house or something similar. Usually they go to work-camps and things of that sort after serving hard time. So, I don't really have a problem with that. I have a problem with illegal aliens and people who move here and get on welfare and don't attempt to learn english.

Chris-Winfield
08-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Even if they have inmates paying 100% or more than 100% of what it takes to hold them...

I doubt the government will lowers the taxes for each individual to correct the changes.

So in turn its going to ruin the economy even more... Because taxes will be just as high but with less jobs for americans to work because of inmates taking them.

Now if they take off 100% of the bill thats required to keep them there along with 100% of how much it costs to pay the people working for the prisons etc... to where every aspect of what were paying for the prisons can come out of their own check.. go right to them.

Then they could lower our taxes.. but their not going to because that wont change the economy at all... it will just make normal americans suffer less jobs with everything else being the same. Now their going to probably keep the taxes how it is based on NET TAX INCOME...

which is going to make taxes go up cause of less people working. so they have to raise them for the people they can tax to make a profit their not going to lower the amount of money the government brings in , keep it the same or increase it.

more power is being switched from the innocent to the guilty by doing this.

Also whats happening with the left over money? Is the left over money thats left from how much the inmates are getting paid going to the government , to where if they do keep taxes the same its going to one affect us cause of less jobs , while making the government make more money. By having more income coming in for them from the prisons since theres more excess than what is needed...

They have to pay the inmates the same as normal people , or else theirs low income workers throwing off the economy and making a monopoly for other companies.... Pretty much the exact same thing as illegal immigrants but instead of the governement suffering.. It just makes the people suffer even more.

and since the government is funded by the people , and suppose to be controlled by the people which its not. It just puts the people in a bigger whole of debt , while the government brings in more money.

We the US is in debt 11+ TRILLION dollar in debt.... not the government , but the people , because of how theyve been running things.

What their doing is a completely bad idea. UNLESS the innocent people the the US actually get a check every single month of EXACTLY what the excess is ... divided by each individual person and sent out... but that make even more work , for the small amount each american is making per check , the checks are too small to make a difference. probably .75 a month with how many americans there are....

But so I think they need to completely do away with the whole idea.....

its just going to ruin the economy even more than it already is. It will help the government but not the people since their the ones in control .. even though their stealing our money to use to be in control.

With what their doing , its just a way of taking a larger percentage of money from the people. With doing less work on their part.

we suffer they succeed thats the governents gameplan and what its been all along. Somebody has to suffer for somebody to succeed and instead of making our country succeed over other countries.

They think of themselves as a smaller group , and choose to succeed over us than succeed with us.

dorian123
08-07-2009, 08:30 PM
yeah pretty much,
hence once again, the rich get richer, the poor get welfare, and the mid class go further in debt...

we are here to wipe the rich people's ass
we are here to wipe the welfare case's ass
and then when it's all said and done-well we don't have any money left over for our own toilet paper

Chris-Winfield
08-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Need to make the whole country upper class and try to make outside countries lower status..

not big dramatic difference in this country. That is how you make good economy... push and pull...

jshoty
08-08-2009, 02:40 PM
Need to make the whole country upper class and try to make outside countries lower status..

not big dramatic difference in this country. That is how you make good economy... push and pull...

this could never happend because 98% of the wealth of our country is already owned by the elite 1%.

dorian123
08-08-2009, 03:13 PM
that's right and they are the ones that only have to pay 6% taxes while the rest of us pay how much?

and if you break the 112k mark-watch out, they really rape your ass then-can't have common middle class scum getting rich so we'll tax the shit out of them and keep it from happening

jshoty
08-08-2009, 03:32 PM
that's right and they are the ones that only have to pay 6% taxes while the rest of us pay how much?

and if you break the 112k mark-watch out, they really rape your ass then-can't have common middle class scum getting rich so we'll tax the shit out of them and keep it from happening

I dont want to be right anyways...just sweet lookin!

Chris-Winfield
08-08-2009, 04:39 PM
Might not ever happen , but it what should happen. There can be different tiers of comfortable living.

Just make pretty much everybody in the US living comfortable.

for those of you who believe in heaven and hell , that how it is for heaven , and hell is all uncomfortable living.

not everybody is equal in heaven but all are comfortable living. If we make the whole US comfortable , and other countries the counterweight. Then thats how its suppose to be.

There cant be a heaven without a hell , but yet we live in a country where government claim to be christian and disregard their religious philospohies because of their greed. Its false governing and will be judged in the end.

dreww
08-08-2009, 05:36 PM
actually, the whole democratic way of thinking tax wise, is tax the rich more. the help the poor and middle class. but taxes went up for everyone when they took office. it just went up more for the rich. gotta give the welfarers more money. bs

Chris-Winfield
08-08-2009, 06:03 PM
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Just saying government uses OUR money poorly. claim it as theirs and use it how they want to , with no informed consent of the all the uses.

Also the money were using to go into debt most is being used directly to other countries for things that we could do in country to cut down on debt.

Also the thing we spend the money for are not long term success uses.. Japan is actually the number #1 debt country there is right now , but they have atleast spent a huge majority of that debt for things that will help their economy out in the upcoming years.

We have not spent anywhere near the amount of our debt for those reasons , just for other reasons. Also that debt also includes the price of what the government officials are actually pocketing illegally.. their taking more money than they should be. You might say there are groups that control things to keep checks and balances and things in order..

how are the funded , and who do they actually work for. not the US but the government , so the government rules all. including the people that are suppose to govern the government.

jshoty
08-12-2009, 03:21 PM
I would rather have inmates doing labor to pay for their incarceration, then an illegal immigrant doing the same labor. Lots of prisons are becoming privatized so its almost like slave labor in many cases. Its good for the prison system when their are more inmates, and especially if they can produce some kind of product that makes the prison and its "shareholders" rich. There are actually publicly traded PRISON companies, their stock goes up with the more prisoners in their system!

Chris-Winfield
08-12-2009, 03:27 PM
yes i'd rather inmates than immigrants.

But with how stupid and greedy our government is its not making any difference.... Its just putting us in more of an economical strain.

Presser
08-12-2009, 03:27 PM
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Just saying government uses OUR money poorly. claim it as theirs and use it how they want to , with no informed consent of the all the uses.

And all this time I thought they were doing the right thing.:rolleyes: Thanks for sharing such an insightful coment brutha it was a real eye opener:eek:....

jshoty
08-12-2009, 03:30 PM
yes i'd rather inmates than immigrants.

But with how stupid and greedy our government is its not making any difference.... Its just putting us in more of an economical strain.

One of the problems with our government is the two party system! I cant think of too many developed nations with just two parties. Also, our government is WAY to BIG! its a huge beauracracy!!!

Chris-Winfield
08-13-2009, 12:36 AM
disguised slavery.

dorian123
08-13-2009, 03:39 AM
been the same thing since the begin of time-MUSH ON!!!