AAS with IGF ?

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cochino10

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I'm looking to start IGF with Winny or Anovar. Need some advice.
First of all Winny or Anovar I know Anovar is more expensive but its easier on the body. Also I need to take 10 tablets a day.

If I take winny How much should I take ? Should I take test as well?

My goal is to get ripped. I don't want to be a body builder I just want to gain 10 lbs of muscle. I'm looking to gain speed and power.

I was also thinking about doing IGF at the same time. Is this a good idea ? Or should I do it as a PCT ? If anybody can help me out on how much I should apply. This would be my first time using AAS.

I'm 6 4
222lbs
 
IGF and AAS is a great idea they have a great synergistic effect.
10 tablets a day what is the mg?
If you go with the winny i would do 50mg's a day you dont really need any more then that, if you do more it will just be harder on your joints etc. I take 60mg's of anavar usually sometimes a bit more, i love var it is a great drug. You gonna be running any test with this or just oral and igf? I would recommend 100mg's eod of prop to go with this and you will get some killer results. Run the IGF the first 4 weeks and during pct if you can afford it. It helps alot of people hold onto gains and recover from a cycle. JMO.
 
Good Advice

10 tablets of Var at 10mg. I have read that it takes about 100mg for Var to really work. You only take 60mg? How are the results for you? How long do you cycle for? I was told to do 100mg every other day for winny? Does that sound right? I was thinking for 4-6 weeks on winny if I decide to do Winny. Do you think that is enough? I like your idea of taking 50mg. I don't think I need that much. I'm 6 4 222 just have little fat I'm about 10 - 12% body fat. If you go to my IGF Journal you can see some pics of me. I want to do Var but that is expensive if I have the money I will do Var. How long do you think I should do Var?
So , Breaking it down

IGF first 4 weeks 50mg a day.
Winny 50mg everyday for 4 or 6 weeks ?
or Var 60mg or 100mg everyday for how long?
with some prop How much should I take of Prop?
Then a week later after finishing the cycles start PCT ?
Does this sound right ?
PCT Novadex ? Any other PCT I should take ? Should I take IGF as Well PCT ?

Thanks for you help guys.
 
I have applied IGF for 6 weeks before. I have never tried AAS. I have a friend that is pretty knowledgeable about the stuff. We both have been doing some research. He knows alot more than I do. He is helping me with a lot of my decisions. I just don't want to get to big just ripped and put 10 to 15lbs of muscle.

I know Var is going to be expensive. I rather use Var then Winny but I don't think I'm going to be able to afford it. How would you use the IFG ? Would you use it first or last ?
 
I would go with test instead of orals bro personally. The igf will work well either way but I am just not a fan of oral only. Just my 2 cents but var is freaking expensive too like someone said before.
 
body2see said:
You could run the IGF at the start or end, or even do say 3 weeks on 3 weeks off during the cycle.

10-15pounds of muscle is a gigantic gain. Not sure what time frame you have in mind??
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That is an enormous amount of muscle to gain. I also would use a test over both. In my experience, both offer great strength gains while on, but aren't as good for building muscle IMO. They are also expensive and 100mg of anavar a day for a guy that's never used AAS before?! You may want to keep that guy as a friend, but I wouldn't take much in the way of advice from him. I think 50mg of prop a day or 100eod would be great.
 
Cant decide

I have to wait for my next pay check. I was reading about EQ as well for endurance. What do you think about EQ ?

I was thinking
IGF 40 Mg a day.
Winny 50 mg every other day
EQ or Prop 200 mg a week
 
cochino10 said:
I have to wait for my next pay check. I was reading about EQ as well for endurance. What do you think about EQ ?

I was thinking
IGF 40 Mg a day.
Winny 50 mg every other day
EQ or Prop 200 mg a week
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not bad cycle i would defiantly up the prop to atleast 600 a week but other then that looks solid
 
cochino10 said:
I have to wait for my next pay check. I was reading about EQ as well for endurance. What do you think about EQ ?

I was thinking
IGF 40 Mg a day.
Winny 50 mg every other day
EQ or Prop 200 mg a week
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i was wondering what you decided to do brutha? and as i posted above i think upping the prop to 600mg would be beneficial as well
 
Not sure

I'm still doing a little more research on EQ. If I were to start EQ not sure what my dose would be. Do you or anybody know much about EQ?
You mentioned Prop 600 I'm assuming a week right ? Do you think that might be to much for me? I just want to bulk up a little not to crazy.
 
last fall i started IGf and ass for the first time together, i only had 2 bottles of IGF

and i can personally say i havent had better gains since then. i agree with Presser, kick that prop up to 600 a week, and ive found with prop ED is better than everyother
 
I absolutly LOVE Eq...there are almost no drawbacks(its in the test family, raises rbc count, increases appetite, lubes joints) You name it Bro...plus its long acting which means less frequent injections
 
MightyJohn said:
I absolutly LOVE Eq...there are almost no drawbacks(its in the test family, raises rbc count, increases appetite, lubes joints) You name it Bro...plus its long acting which means less frequent injections
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EQ makes my joint hurt , they feel like fucking glass joints,lol, most of the people i speak to say eq aches their joints also like winstrol does, I never heard anyonesay EQ lubes their joints like they say deca does
 
^^ ive heard it really helps collagen etc with tendons and strengthening connective tissue but not much about making joins feel better.
 
Thanks again for all of your advice and suggestions. Sorry its taking me so long to decide what I'm going to do. I have been doing a lot of research.

Talking about joint issues. My first cycle is going to be with Winny because of the cost difference with var. My knee joints kill me already so I'm assuming to keep the dosage very low. Should I take Decca as well to lubricate the joints?

My other concern is hair loss. I heard that I will loose my hair. Someone talk to me about this hair loss issue. Is it permanent? Will my hair grow back? Do I need to go on some special pill while I'm on aas? If I take Winny and prop will I loose my hair faster. Can anyone relate to this matter. Wanted to get info from people that actually experienced hair loss.

Thanks
 
cochino10 said:
Thanks again for all of your advice and suggestions. Sorry its taking me so long to decide what I'm going to do. I have been doing a lot of research.

Talking about joint issues. My first cycle is going to be with Winny because of the cost difference with var. My knee joints kill me already so I'm assuming to keep the dosage very low. Should I take Decca as well to lubricate the joints?

My other concern is hair loss. I heard that I will loose my hair. Someone talk to me about this hair loss issue. Is it permanent? Will my hair grow back? Do I need to go on some special pill while I'm on aas? If I take Winny and prop will I loose my hair faster. Can anyone relate to this matter. Wanted to get info from people that actually experienced hair loss.

Thanks
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One of my main reasons I dropped all DHT derrived AAS.
Primo winny tren - lesser extent test eq etc.
There is some hope though, as test CONVERTS to DHT......I noticed massive shedding with winny.

So I jumped on the bandwagon, Nizoral shampoo - Finasteride - Rogaine / azelaic acid - and sprionolacetone.

No hair growth, but it sure stopped any thing that was going on up top......I have yet to try another cycle since my last run in with the ugly sides of AAS, The hair is what bothers me most.

In the future it will certainly be only a TEST only cycle, with a lot of FINASTERIDE.......for now I will test out IGF. Can't wait

Gluck to you
 
Presser said:
EQ makes my joint hurt , they feel like fucking glass joints,lol, most of the people i speak to say eq aches their joints also like winstrol does, I never heard anyonesay EQ lubes their joints like they say deca does
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that eq does that to me too but i just up the test and it seems to help
 
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