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FiberSci
10-03-2009, 06:51 PM
I am tested monthly for probation and usually just smoke a few days and give myself a full month to be clean and never had a problem. However, this time i was not so disciplined in my use and only gave myself 16 days and smoked half and ounce of potent hydro. I will of coarse test myself, but it wont be as accurate as a lab based test.

I am extremely active working out and mix martial arts- weigh 200lbs at 8.5% bf so metabolism is ramped up, but will clen or ephedrine help eliminate those toxins in the fat cells? Would cutting carbs/weight help? Theory online says it will but does anyone have any personal experience?

I know to piss several time before the day of test, but any advice will be greatly appreciated =)

CH3NO2
10-03-2009, 06:54 PM
My understanding is THC is stored in body fat so nothing is going to help you but time. Just drink a TON of water before the test and hope your acceptable levels of THC are okay.

dorian123
10-04-2009, 01:54 AM
man just get some golden seal or chinese herb tea
i know guys that have smoked the night before and passed with that shit

FiberSci
10-04-2009, 02:11 AM
Goldenseal became a part of American folklore associated with chemical testing errors, from pharmacist John Uri Lloyd's 1900 novel Stringtown on the Pike where goldenseal is confused with strychnine. It has been used on occasions in this century to attempt to mask the use of morphine in race horses (without success). [23]
Two studies have demonstrated no effect of oral goldenseal on urine drug assays over water alone.[24] Subjects who drank large amounts of water had the same urine drug levels as subjects who took goldenseal capsules along with the water. Because of the popular perception that this is true, drug tests will take the presence of hydrastine in the urine as likely proof that a person being tested is a drug user.

Crazymank
10-04-2009, 08:00 AM
it its a hair test you can use a shampoo.

CH3NO2
10-04-2009, 10:05 AM
it its a hair test you can use a shampoo.


Or just shave your head like I do.

The Dude
10-04-2009, 12:31 PM
Nothing works other than drinking a lot of water and getting the fat to mobilize. T3 or any stimulant with cardio can help with this. Also start drinking water constantly at least 12 hours before and I mean as much as you can stomach. I've passed 10 days after.

dorian123
10-04-2009, 01:15 PM
then what's that chinese tea that my buddy in Fl. would take?
he would smoke the night before and pass

The Dude
10-04-2009, 01:37 PM
then what's that chinese tea that my buddy in Fl. would take?
he would smoke the night before and pass

Its probably one of those tea's that make you drink 2 gallon starting right before. Problem is that if you urine is too diluted, they fail you. Nothing masks it. Some things can trash the test, but they are also tested for. I'm willing to bet your friend may be leaving out some details.

FiberSci
10-04-2009, 02:27 PM
I read that eating red meat a week before will raise your carnitine levels that are tested for dilution, but was wondering exactly how much water you would need to drink to have to much dilution?



Itst probably one of those tea's that make you drink 2 gallon starting right before. Problem is that if you urine is too diluted, they fail you. Nothing masks it. Some things can trash the test, but they are also tested for. I'm willing to bet your friend may be leaving out some details.

dorian123
10-04-2009, 04:56 PM
Its probably one of those tea's that make you drink 2 gallon starting right before. Problem is that if you urine is too diluted, they fail you. Nothing masks it. Some things can trash the test, but they are also tested for. I'm willing to bet your friend may be leaving out some details.

no this guy wasn't to bright-smoking the night before you piss for your PO isn't a good idea

dreww
10-07-2009, 04:03 PM
no offense but everyone here is wrong. i consider myself an expert on this. thc is fat soluable so water diluting isnt that effective. 16 days post smoke you should be clear. being lean and active helps insure this. to be safe...use certo or suregel. consume it with liquid and piss once or twice before giving a sample. doing this ive passed twice only 12 hrs after smoking. this is the only thing guaranteed to work minus someone elses piss. but the problem with that is maintaining that sample at near 98 degrees

The Dude
10-07-2009, 07:39 PM
no offense but everyone here is wrong. i consider myself an expert on this. thc is fat soluable so water diluting isnt that effective. 16 days post smoke you should be clear. being lean and active helps insure this. to be safe...use certo or suregel. consume it with liquid and piss once or twice before giving a sample. doing this ive passed twice only 12 hrs after smoking. this is the only thing guaranteed to work minus someone elses piss. but the problem with that is maintaining that sample at near 98 degrees

We are just here to share knowledge and in that regard I will share mine. While I'm not arguing that you may have some anecdotal experience, I have an in depth and comprehensive first hand knowledge of High Pressure Liquid Chromatography, Spectrum Analysis, as well as common Reagent testing. The facts are that there is an acceptable limit of THC in the body. The fact is that diluting the urine STILL is an effective way to pass if you are knowledgable enough about your metabolism. The best way is to gorge yourself on water and vitamins as soon as possible. When you are in the room providing the sample. Begin to pee into the toilet for a few moments and fill the cup with the END of your stream. Just a few things I picked up along the way to my B.S. in Biomedical Science and minor in toxicology. I have since expanded my knowledge of drugs to the point where I have yet to find someone who can carry on an in depth conversation on the topic. Staying lean and doing cardio is a major factor! Extremely lean muscular people will almost never get caught if they take the smallest of precautions.

Get_Swole
10-07-2009, 08:15 PM
the people that invented this got 8 years i think :eek:

FiberSci
10-08-2009, 11:39 PM
tested negative with at home test.

muscleitis
10-13-2009, 01:16 AM
I have MANY friends that passed with certo over the years, but you never know until test time. Also the blocker and maskers you can buy can show in a test and the drug will as well, I've had it happen to ME and I bought the best one out there. Talk about a shocker, I was pulled off of a new job as a bridge concrete inspector and told that my drug test came back positive for pot and a blocker!. If they dont watch you, bring a sample. I probly faked 20 tests when I was younger. Tempature is key here. Being lean IS key for you. Docs say 10 to 30 days. This is VERY general and unaccurate. Hope you stop for a while. I know it's hard to do, but you get use to it. Just dont turn into a raging alcoholic in the mean time. Good luck FiSi