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jake44
03-28-2002, 08:01 PM
1st cycle
Stats-24 yrs old
6'2 220 9% Bf Have been lifting for past 5 yrs

Weeks 1-10 (Organon Sust) 500/week
Weeks 1-5 dbol @35mgs/day
weeks 8-12 winny @50mgs/day
week 13- 1st day 300mg clomid, 100mg/day for 10 days, then 50mg for the next 10 day. I will have nolvadex on hand, also milk thistle. Should i take out the dbol or winny due to the harsh effects on my liver??

sully
03-28-2002, 08:13 PM
...i think you will be alright especially with the liver protectants...it looks fine and you should grow rather nicely...you might want to consider some deca to help with joint pain from the winy...i would maybe sub the deca for the dbol...but that is only 1 option...it is up to you but winny made me want to cry without deca...lol..good luck... :)

mr456
03-28-2002, 08:17 PM
If you want to blow up and then attempt to cut at the end..it looks good. If you want leaner...slower, steady.... but more retainable gains I would shitcan the D-bol and leave the rest...good luck.....456

jake44
03-28-2002, 08:41 PM
If i decide to take out the dbol, would it be alright to run deca at 200mg/week or should i go for 400mg/week?? Is the winny really that painful on the joints?? thanks

sully
03-28-2002, 08:47 PM
...i would personally run the deca at 400mg a week...and for some the joint pain is real bad and for others not to bad...it is an individual thing you know...but i like deca more especially since you might get the pain from winny...thats my opnion bro... ???

mr456
03-28-2002, 10:44 PM
If you got Deca to run at 400EW do it. That would be a nice cycle. I just am not too fond of D-bol. Too much water weight and gains you don&#39;t keep. I however am a fatty and have trouble getting and staying lean...guys with good metabolism don&#39;t have this problem. Of course since I am on 100mcg of T-3 a day I haven&#39;t had that problem either <!--emo&{}--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='{}'><!--endemo-->

jake44
03-28-2002, 10:54 PM
alright i think i&#39;m gonna get rid of the dbol and get some deca to run at 400mg/week, and the winny from 7-12. thanks for the input bros

NAPALM1
03-28-2002, 11:11 PM
Personally, I would add the deca, and keep the Dbol&#33; Dbol is going to add a lot of quick strength and size, you may lose some of it, but some of it you will keep because of the rest of the AAS you are using solidifying your gains. If I was going to dump anything, it would be the winnie. Just my 2c, Later

mbstrong
03-28-2002, 11:39 PM
I&#39;m with napalm, I love d-bol. There is alot of water gains but the liquidex will help with that. I get really good strength gains from it. &nbsp;You guy&#39;s have been hanging around presser to much,lol.



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