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chewin iron
03-30-2002, 09:46 PM
Hey guys.....looking for a little advice here....my wife is having a hard time getting rid of some baby fat that she has had on for 10 months now....she uses the tread mill and does a few other exercises also....she doesnt use any supplements and we were wondering how clen might help her out....use that 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and Xenedrine or something during the 2 week off period....let me know what u think and is there any sides that she would need to stay away from...shes getting really fed up with it and needs some help....thanks for any info..... :)

kydquick
03-30-2002, 10:47 PM
My girl takes it once in a while I would say 8 weeks total a year maybe for some reason she did some reasearch and does 4 pills a day for a week and then 6 a day she likes that for some reason hope i helped

sasha
03-31-2002, 12:23 AM
clen : it is not a steroid hormone but a beta-2-symphatomimetic.  while it is not a steroid... it can cause a solid, highly qualitative muscle growth which goes hand in hand with a significant strength gain.... not like when on gear but still has an sig. effect... clen, above all, has a strong anti-catabolic effect,,,, means it decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, consequently causing an enlargement of muscle cells.
another aspect of Clenbuterol is its distinct fat-burning effect. clen burns fat without dieting because it increases the body temperature slightly, forcing the body to burn fat for this process.
sides:  restlessness, palpitations, tremor (involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia, possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea.
dosing goes as follows
wk 1 clen
wk2  clen
wk3 eca
wk4 eca
wk5clen
wk6 clen
wk7 eca
wk8 eca
wk9 clen
wk10 clen
wk 11 eca
wk12 eca

starting with one 20mcg tab day one.. then upping 1 20mcg tab each day there after until the max dose is reached.. usually shown by the tremor/ shaking of the hands.. note.. even when she begins to retake clen after the 2 wks of eca she will begin at the dose she was consitently taking before. so if she was taking 80 mcg (4tabs) she will begin the 5th wk at that dose..


sasha

chewin iron
03-31-2002, 06:34 AM
thanks for your help....that should get it going for now...appriciate the help from everyone....

Dezir
04-01-2002, 08:24 PM
Yup, what Sasha said.....  :D

Fitnessgirl19
04-08-2002, 03:15 PM
What about the liquid stuff?  I'm getting some this week and wondering about doses.  Also, how do you take the liquid stuff?

sasha
04-08-2002, 03:20 PM
sorry can't help you there.. never tried the liquid version..
sasha

FemFit
04-08-2002, 04:53 PM
liquid clen??  very interesting

Fitnessgirl19
04-08-2002, 05:12 PM
hmmm, well I've heard it's good.  I guess I'll be the guinea pig.

sasha
04-08-2002, 07:45 PM
oral???  
or
injectable??

Fitnessgirl19
04-09-2002, 12:02 AM
oral.  It's a syrup.

Domn8r
04-09-2002, 07:29 PM
You're not talking about albuterol, which is what is used in america in the place of clen, are u?

Obviously, clen is not made in the u.s. anymore but albuterol is. It isn't the same in the aspects that you are needing it for (muscle building and weight loss), However it serves its' purpose for asthsma.

Some dealers have tried to sell it as liquid clen though. Don't buy it.

As far as liquid CLENBUTEROL I haven't heard of that.

Fitnessgirl19
04-09-2002, 11:58 PM
clenbuterol is the full name of clen.  I'm in Canada so ya, it's made here and it's supposed to be awesome for fat burning.

Domn8r
04-11-2002, 09:08 AM
I didn't ask what the full name for clen is. I was just asking if you know that it is clen in the liquid form or if someone was trying to screw you by selling you albuterol telling you that it is liquid clen since no one has ever heard of liquid clen.
Albuterol as I said before is not the same for the fatburning and muscle building so make sure you see the actual bottle.
And maybe I confused you by saying that clenbuterol isn't made in the US anymore because I didn't say that you can't get it.

Dezir
04-11-2002, 11:27 AM
Fitness...is it pharmaceutical or is it made by an underground lab?  If it is from someone you trust, then I would probably try it.  But if it is from someone you don't know very well, I would stay away from it.  I will try to do a search today to see if I can find any thing out, but I have not heard of it before either.  Good luck, and let us know what you decide.

Dezir
04-11-2002, 11:36 AM
Ok...I just did a very quick search (at work so I don't have much time..hehe) But this is what I found.

 Ventipulmin syrup, it is clenbuterol hydrochloride.  It is for horses with COPD.  If this is what you have, I have no idea how much you would need to take.  But the web site I found it on is  www.westernmedicalsupply.com/equine.html

Fitnessgirl19
04-11-2002, 01:20 PM
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Ventipulmin syrup, it is clenbuterol hydrochloride. It is for horses with COPD. If this is what you have, I have no idea how much you would need to take. But the web site I found it on is www.westernmedicalsupply.com/equine.html[/quote]
Hey Dezir. Yes, ventipulmin or clenbuterol hydrochloride is exactly what I have. The guy I got it from gave me what was left of his girlfriend&#39;s bottle (she had been taking it for quite a while). He gave it to me for cheap b/c there&#39;s not much left, which is good so I can see how well it works (if at all) without spending a bunch of cash. He said his girlfriend ripped right up from it. I forget how much he said to take but it&#39;s next to nothing. 200cc&#39;s or something? Does that make sense? You just put it in a shake or something. I&#39;m really excited to try it.
Domin8er, sorry I misunderstood you before.

Dezir
04-11-2002, 06:26 PM
I would double check that dose, it sounds kinda high to me, but maybe its not. &nbsp;I would assume that you still use it the same way though....2 weeks on and 2 weeks off? &nbsp;I am very curious about this stuff. &nbsp;Please keep me/us posted.

Fitnessgirl19
04-11-2002, 06:46 PM
The guy recommended 2 days on 1 off for 4 weeks. &nbsp;I&#39;m not sure if I&#39;m going to do that or 2 weeks on 2 off. &nbsp;I&#39;m starting Saturday so I better decide. &nbsp;As for the doses, I&#39;ll be sure to double check before I start, but I&#39;m cautious so I&#39;ll probably start with even less than he says.

Fitnessgirl19
04-14-2002, 05:24 AM
My first day was today and it was sure a kick start from the old ECA. I had pretty much the same reaction as when I first started taking my ECA stack (shakiness, increased heart rate, energy boost, and feeling a little spaced out) but it felt a bit more intense than the ECA. I think it&#39;s going to be good. &nbsp;I decided to go 2 days on, 1 off...taking an ECA on the off days. &nbsp;I&#39;ll do that for 4 weeks and then finish my cutting cycle with 2 weeks just ECA.

Auriflex
04-15-2002, 02:51 PM
Here&#39;s an excerpt from a great write up on clen from Nick Bockwinkle.

4. What is the recommended dosage for Clenbuterol?

This has become a matter of controversy among the Bodybuilding community. Due
to erroneous assumptions based on livestock dosing based on the types of
receptors that humans and livestock have , 2 days on-2 days off was thought to
be the proper dosage. Given Clenbuterol&#39;s half-life of about 10 hours, with a
2-days on/2-days off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol
out of your system for this to be an effective cycle. In actuality, it probably
hasn&#39;t even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before one is taking the
drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that
this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization.
2-weeks on/2-weeks off is a better cycle, with ECA stacked in between.

At a dosage of around 5-7 tablets or 100-140 mcg per day for men over a period
of 8-10 weeks. In females, dosages of 80-100 mcg/day are usually sufficient.
For fat loss, clenbuterol seems to stay effective for 3-6 weeks, then it&#39;s
thermogenic properties seem to subside. This is noticed when the body
temperature drops back to normal. It&#39;s anabolic properties subside much quicker,
somewhere around 18 days. Also keep in mind that anything over 140 mcg a day is
useless since the beta receptors can only handle so much. °


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Fitnessgirl19
04-15-2002, 04:30 PM
Thanks Auriflex, that was very helpful. &nbsp;Yet, I can&#39;t find anything that talks about doses for liquid clen....which is very frustrating.

Auriflex
04-15-2002, 04:42 PM
Fitnessgirl, is the bottle labeled with the strength? &nbsp;I know you said something about 200cc&#39;s, but that has to be a mistake. &nbsp;200cc&#39;s of anything is a lot of fluid. &nbsp;If the bottle has a manufacturers label on it - it will have a breakdown somewhere.

I&#39;ll see in the meantime if I can find out anything pertaining to what you have specifically.

Fitnessgirl19
04-15-2002, 05:54 PM
The bottle says 1ml of syrup contains 0.025mg clenbuterol hydrochloride.