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PumpMaster
04-04-2002, 11:22 AM
AS are told to cause problems with blood thickening. It is said, that they can cause internal bleedings. I'm affraid of this traeth. What's your experience. Which are 'safeast' steroids. (Deca for instance is said to be very problematic).
Is there some food, that causees thicker blood?
I was thinking of a cycle:
1st week: 2 x SUSTA
2nd: 2 x SUSTA
3rd: 2 x SUSTA
4th-7th: 400mg PRIMOBOLAN/week

mbstrong
04-04-2002, 11:42 AM
Never had any problem with my blood getting thick????Also your cycle needs to be run for at least 8-10 weeks.  The sus takes 3-4 weeks to even get in your system.  You can add the primo at the end of the cycle if you want for the last 4-5 weeks.  

week 1-10 sus 500mg
week 5-10 primo 300mg

musclepup
04-04-2002, 11:50 AM
I don't think it thickens your blood, I believe they are supposed to thin your blood. I know when I was going in to surgery a few years ago the doctor made it quite clear to me that there is risk involved if I don't come clean about my steroid use so the surgeon can take precations needed. I have also noticed when I got a tattoo while on cycle that I blead alot more.
MP

PS. Not liking that cycle

mbstrong
04-04-2002, 11:57 AM
Explain why your not liking cycle bro.......

PumpMaster
04-04-2002, 12:35 PM
By 'problems with blood thickenink' I meant, that it does not want to thicken. They thin your blood.
About the cycle:
1.People say to me, that long cycles are out of fashion. That short(4 weeks)&strong cycles are the best. So, for the first half of the cycle I was thinking of using more androgene anabolics and more anabolic in the end (recomended by mesomorphosis.com)
2. Isn't SUSTANON made of four components, of which 1 starts acting immediately, and the last one in 2-3 weeks?

THANKS FOR HELP!

sully
04-04-2002, 01:15 PM
...if you are wanting to use sust and primo than mb's suggestion was great...some people like "short" cycles but 4 weeks with sust is not maximizing the drug bro...there are esters in sust that dont kick in till around then...i would go with mb but if your sold on a four weeker than maybe go with test prop and winny...just a suggestion... ???

musclepup
04-04-2002, 03:08 PM
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sorry man, I didnt have a problem with the cycle you suggested, I didnt like his cycle orinally posted. Sorry bud&#33;
MP

mbstrong
04-04-2002, 03:27 PM
It&#39;s cool bro <!--emo&GG--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bigsmile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='GG'><!--endemo-->

stumpy
04-04-2002, 03:51 PM
i also believe that the blood will thin rather than get thick.

as for the short term cycles, yes they seem to be very trendy at the moment, but, personnally i stick with my roots. &nbsp;a bit old school. &nbsp;i rather stretch out over a longer period using lower doses. &nbsp;i believe that you will gain more steadily and maintain these gains a little easier. &nbsp;short term will surely make you baloon up in no time, but you will lose alot of it quickly too. &nbsp;sure you will maintain a bit, but on the system as a whole, to constantly go up and down so drastically, can be taxing. &nbsp;just my opinion.

BStrongBwell*
04-04-2002, 04:00 PM
I&#39;ve heard plenty of talk about short cycles, but don&#39;t know anyone that&#39;s doing them. &nbsp;I would think you&#39;d need to use VERY high doses, say 1-2Gs/wk or maybe more, and use fast-acting test like prop. &nbsp;IMO, the problem with short cycles is that in order to make them work, you&#39;ll need high doses. &nbsp;THen, you go off. &nbsp;You&#39;re body chemistry will be a roller-coaster. &nbsp;That&#39;ll make the sides worse. &nbsp;I guess I&#39;m just closed minded...I like to stick to 10-12 weeks personally.