Thug Motivation
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Thinking about an h-drol cycle...
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teedubgee
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I don't think anyone here will recommend you doing a cycle at 18. You would benefit much more from building naturally for a while. A 18 year old at 160lb has a lot to do naturally before he even considers a cycle. I personally don't recommend it. This is a good community to get you started on going about it the right way. How bout you let us know your experience in bodybuilding, your diet, or even how you train. I'm sure we could help.
Thug Motivation
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hey guys well ive been working out for a few years. December 2009 i got up to 180lbs benching 265lbs, but i was at 17bf%. Cut down to 155lbs/10%bf by april. Im glad I did that cut cuz now all i eat it good food. So now my bulk is CLEAN. 500cal+BMR and on a 5 day split. I just KNOW imma roid up in my lifetime and I got no patience, i really wanna give it a try. I wanna get cut and big. and my arms are small and it pisses me off. Chest is 40"+ but arms are not even 15"s. And i would love to do shows in the future as well
Routine
Arms
legs
chest
back
shoulders
current stack=creatine mono+dextrose+whey protein+jack3d
Routine
Arms
legs
chest
back
shoulders
current stack=creatine mono+dextrose+whey protein+jack3d
teedubgee
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
How tall are you? Also, be a little more specific with your diet. What are the macro ratios and what kinds of food for each. In addition, what training principles do you follow? How many sets, the rep ranges you incorporate, and how long do you spend in the gym. The more info we have, the more we could help you out. From what you're saying, you just need to be patient for results. AAS aren't miracle drugs.
Pharm_Fed
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Teed is right on the money. Nobody here is going to say doing a cycle at 18 years old is a good idea. Hell, I'm almost 27 and and just getting ready for my first cycle. You have a lot of growing naturally left to do, you don't want to leave that on the table by jumping on AAS too soon. Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint. Patience is key. Post up some more of the info that teed asked for and we will help you get some more results naturally.
The Dude
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As pointed out, bodybuilding is a marathon. Not a sprint. The general consensus is to reach your full genetic potential before using AAS.
For comparison's sake, at 15 and 170lbs I set my high school bensh press record at 345lbs. By 18 I was just under 200lbs decently lean at 5'9 and could squat 315 for reps, 225 on the incline for reps, and dead 465 for 10. I started at 18, but I had reached my peak with supplements, diet, and training. You have a ways to go. What you build naturally will be your ground zero. Do you really want that to be a 265lb bench, 15 inch arms, and 170lbs? you've got plenty of time. In addition to putting on more muscle and learning the science of bodybuilding, you might want to familiarize yourself with the compounds you may one day use. The phrase "imma roid up" screams ignorance.
For comparison's sake, at 15 and 170lbs I set my high school bensh press record at 345lbs. By 18 I was just under 200lbs decently lean at 5'9 and could squat 315 for reps, 225 on the incline for reps, and dead 465 for 10. I started at 18, but I had reached my peak with supplements, diet, and training. You have a ways to go. What you build naturally will be your ground zero. Do you really want that to be a 265lb bench, 15 inch arms, and 170lbs? you've got plenty of time. In addition to putting on more muscle and learning the science of bodybuilding, you might want to familiarize yourself with the compounds you may one day use. The phrase "imma roid up" screams ignorance.
I agree with everyone in that you shouldnt start using steroids bro! You havent even exhausted your natural potential yet! And for me this sport is all about LONGEVITY bro and using steroids so early will surely burn you out early especialy if you dont use them properly.
I was 24 yrs old when I started bro and I prolly could have waited a tad longer. 18 is just too young bro
I was 24 yrs old when I started bro and I prolly could have waited a tad longer. 18 is just too young bro
Thug Motivation
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Arms +abs(hour)
legs (45min)
chest +abs(30min)
back (45min)
shoulders +abs(45min)
i do 10-8-6. rest 90-120 seconds inbetween sets
eat roughly 2500-3000 calories,200g of protein, under 50g of fat. Chicken,Fish,eggs,oatmeal,turkey breast/chicken breast/ham sandwhich on wheat bread,spaghetti once a week(im italian)
legs (45min)
chest +abs(30min)
back (45min)
shoulders +abs(45min)
i do 10-8-6. rest 90-120 seconds inbetween sets
eat roughly 2500-3000 calories,200g of protein, under 50g of fat. Chicken,Fish,eggs,oatmeal,turkey breast/chicken breast/ham sandwhich on wheat bread,spaghetti once a week(im italian)
theBIGness
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
i was 33 when i started
Thug Motivation
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i know someone taking Competitive edge labs M-drol and gained a good amount of muscle weight and bench went up like 50lbs in a month. (cycle is 1 month) so im starting to look into it now....
Its legal and its just like 1-2 pills a day +PCT. along with liver pills. Is cycle assist needed or are buying liver pill seperate okay?
Kinda like how this looks....
Its legal and its just like 1-2 pills a day +PCT. along with liver pills. Is cycle assist needed or are buying liver pill seperate okay?
Kinda like how this looks....
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Pharm_Fed
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Pro-hormones are methylated which makes them super hard on your liver. And once again, you don't need anything like that right now. You don't really seem to be listening. The guys on here have been doing it for a long time, some longer than you've been alive. It would serve you well to take their advice and wait. Lock down your training, diet and rest and don't think about anything else for a while.
That being said, I've found people usually do what they want to do anyway so in regards to your question, it would be better to buy the CEL Cycle Assist. It has things for prostate health, liver health, etc. More complete than just a liver pill. Make sure you get some Nolva-bloat and/or aqua-clo from the MCAS store for your PCT.
That being said, I've found people usually do what they want to do anyway so in regards to your question, it would be better to buy the CEL Cycle Assist. It has things for prostate health, liver health, etc. More complete than just a liver pill. Make sure you get some Nolva-bloat and/or aqua-clo from the MCAS store for your PCT.
freakinthegym
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don't do it bro... listen to Presser and everyone else....eat more ,and train harder...
Thug Motivation
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Nolva-bloat and/or aqua-clo from the MCAS store for your PCT??? whats that, im guessing its not included.
and guys i havent ordered anything yet, just wanna start looking into prohormones and find out more. cuz i got my workout and diet locked down, and im willing to start going hardcore now.
I understand you guys are saying 100% dont do it, but why?
Chris250
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Why...because you will probably lose about a good 15-25lbs of good clean, natural muscle...if you start using now, yeah you will gain alot and get big fast..but you will lose alot of your natural potential now...and that could be alot of good solid muscle you will never be able to get...See what your genetics are first...Before you use anything (AAS, or pro hormones)
nuknuk
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I will tell you why not. Because you live with your parents and they wont like it. So if you get busted by them a list of things could happen.
1. you let them down big time, because now their son is involed in a illeagal activity.
2. you lose trust in them
3. They kick you out
4. they call the cops and you snitch.
5. you turn into another young idiot on gear. Like we need more of those.
6. you get major gyno cause you will not take the proper drugs to combat it
7. You will loose all your gains when your done.
8. you will ruin all your shirts from cutting the sleeves off, because you think your big. YOUR NOT!
9. You will start trying to tell others how to do it and get it
10. You dont even train legs. Start there at least.
I could keep going.
Im an ass, I know. LOL!
1. you let them down big time, because now their son is involed in a illeagal activity.
2. you lose trust in them
3. They kick you out
4. they call the cops and you snitch.
5. you turn into another young idiot on gear. Like we need more of those.
6. you get major gyno cause you will not take the proper drugs to combat it
7. You will loose all your gains when your done.
8. you will ruin all your shirts from cutting the sleeves off, because you think your big. YOUR NOT!
9. You will start trying to tell others how to do it and get it
10. You dont even train legs. Start there at least.
I could keep going.
Im an ass, I know. LOL!
MMX2
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The man is right- all very valid points- I know your goals but right now its just not worth it.
The Dude
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You aren't ready physically or mentally. You use the term "juiced" and "roid". You have no knowledge of any type of drug, its requisite ancillaries and proper PCT. Like Nuk I'm not trying to be a dick, but this is a site for bodybuilders and YOU DON'T TRAIN LEGS??!! Not to mention you are 160lbs!! You live at home!! I see signs of disaster all over the place. You're unwillingness to listen to the vets on this board show your hard headedness. There is an incredible amount of knowledge on this board. I learn things everday and I've been on for over 10 years! I've also got a B.S. in BioMedical Science and minored in Toxicology at FSU.
LeatherHead
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I didn't start anything until I was 38... yea, I'm on my first cycle, because I've been training for years and years and I reached my potential. I wanted to push beyond my plateau and take it to another level. These guys (and girls) here know what they are talking about, and have experienced everything that you can imagine, both good and bad. Listen to them, kid!! You will be much happier, safer, and a better bodybuilder for doing so!
Pumping Iron
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LeatherHead
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But training legs HURTS!!! lol
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