Gyno and decca

Just had some gyno removed and was woundering how safe is 300ml of decca?

It depends everyone is different some may get gyno with alot less doses. If you already had gyno than you are prone to get it again. Did you not use Nolva for your las cycle or Arimidex?

Got some now but I don't know how much to take or when? before or after cycle? ???  ???

If I am not mistaken, Deca aromatizes to progesterone, not estrogen.  Does arimidex/liquidex block the enzyme that causes progesterone aromatization?

elmo you are not totally correct in your remark.  he will definitely be less likely to get the gyno again if he had surgery.

you see, when the gyno is removed, it is glandular tissue that is being taken out.  once its gone, its gone, the problem is if there is any of the tissue left that the plastics doc didn't remove.  if so, then you can see another incidence of gyno.

Seriously - does liquidex protect against gyno from deca?

it sure does bro.

here's the twist w/ liquidex.

liquidex works by stopping the conversion of test into estrogen.  this is different than, say, nolvedex.  Nolv works by blocking the estrogen receptors and not allowing the converted test to enter.  imo, liquidex is the better product.

I was always told Decca was sooo safe!

NO and I emphasize NO anti-estrogen will work against deca enduced gyno..Nolvadex is a weak form of estrogen that easily binds to the estrogen receptor blocking stonger estrogens. Clomid works to stop the conversion of test into estrogen and so dose arimidex and liquidex..The only thing that supposedly stops the conversion of deca or anadrol into progesterone is supposedly winstrol..If you were taking deca and got gyno from it than I would personaly never touch it again..It is way too easily replaced by other anabolics that work just as well..I personaly never touch deca..If you got your gyno from test and not deca (as I suspect you did) then do it but make sure you dont take too much test and make sure you take something to stop the conversion of test into estrogen..



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Yak is right. None of the common ancillaries will prevent proestrogen induced gyno. Stick with a reasonable dosage test base cycle where the sides can be managed. Add in EQ if you want to stack. Use liquidex throughout the cycle and have nolvadex on hand in case your nips even hint at getting itchy. Gyno from deca is rare but it happens and when it does there isn't much you can do about it.
 -TAZ

YAK and TAZ hit it on the head.  Don't mess with it...there are too many other options out there.  ME, Personally, I have had some gyno symptoms with deca...I luv deca, but sometimes you have to drop the hammer on your love ones.

I thought once GYNO was surgically removed you never had to worry about getting it again because the Glands that caused it were taken out???

CJ #$

Two points:
1) If the gyno surgery removed the organized tissue and all of the surrounding fat cells, then like any liposuction procedure, you shouldn't have repeat problems in the same area.  

2) I read somewhere a while back that progesterone can only cause gyno symptoms in the prescence of estrogen.  So, if estrogen is controlled, then progesterone cannot trigger prolactin which is the real source of the problem.  I don't remember if that was an actual study, or just someone posting though...for what it's worth...

I never used test just Decca and primo and I still got some gyno it took a while for it to develope, then I just had the lipo and now I'm just gonna do 300ml of Decca and some primo. I wish I could do test but I know its not worth it for me!  ???

<!--QuoteBegin--BStrongBwell+May 14 2002,9:23--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BStrongBwell @ May 14 2002,9:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->2) I read somewhere a while back that progesterone can only cause gyno symptoms in the prescence of estrogen.  So, if estrogen is controlled, then progesterone cannot trigger prolactin which is the real source of the problem.  I don't remember if that was an actual study, or just someone posting though...for what it's worth...[/quote]
I read that also...It made for a very interesting read, reason being I use fina in every cycle and would like to begin using deca again but have hesitated on mixing the 2.  From that read, I gathered that if a person was to use arimdex/liquidex a few weeks in advance of the cycle and run it the whole way through, the chances of pro-gyno greatly diminish because estrogen must be present for progesterone to set in.  

PS