intra-articular hgh

I have a ruptured acl (had it for 17 years), torn medial meniscus, and osteoarthritis. A Doctor friend of mine has offered to do use IA hgh injections to help with the arthritis. My surgeon wants to replace the knee I'm just not in a position work wise to be able to take 6 weeks off an rehab for a year. So he told me to do the research and he'll provide what I need. I've looked at Dr. Alan R Dunn who discovered the technique but what I'm not sure about is the dosage we should use. His program is comprehensive and I can copy/test most of it. High dose glucosamine sulfate, chondroitin sulfate, MSM, quality fish oil and multi vit/min alog with rehab and prolotherapy if needed. Just wanted to see if you guys had any input on hgh dose. This isn't a new injury I tore the meniscus 3 years ago and didn't know that i had ruptured the ACL until the surgeon told how long ago it had happened. Any help would be appreciated. I have 2mg of igf and 400ius of green tops that I'll be using also. The plan is to begin the IA HGH within the next few weeks and have the meniscus repaired mid january-early february giving the HGH time to work and continuing on thru rehab to see how fast recovery is. My own hgh started last week at 2ius along with 50 mcg of igf ed. Also 400 test, 400 primo, 80 anavar. Was also thinking about 25-50mcg of T3 to see how that influences cellular proliferation.

Hey bro im not real sure about what dose you should use of the HGH for what your trying to do with it. I do know that it would be beneficial to you if you were to use your igf close to the injured area in say the tear drop area, for whatever reason i know it helps when its clser to the inury however im not sure how much it would help ur particular inury but again i know its best in area of injury.

Bro first off how old are you and what is your height and weight?

HGH injected into your joint capsule would be a waste IMO. Like presser said IGF would be more beneficial but only after your repair is done. And at that rate if your surgeon believes in these kinds of treatments AGF rather than IGF is more of the standard of care although it too is not totally proven to do anything. I also feel that a three yr old meniscal tear is unlikely to heal when repaired.

A meniscus tear and an acl rupture together does not warrant a knee replacement. I see you said you have osteoarthritis. Do you remember what grade it is (1-4)? The reason i ask is if you have grade 3 or 4 changes the meniscus and acl arent even worth looking into. If you have smaller defects check out a product called Denovo NT. It is a cartilage graft harvested from juvenile donors.

The acl can only be repaired thru patella or cadaver graft. The meniscus can only be repaired sugically by cutting out what's torn and sewing what's left together. Those can't be repaired through GH or igf only fix is surgical. My question is i'n regards the healing the bone. Dr Alan Dunn has been using this method i'n place of joint replacement to treat osteoarthritis. If you take a look at IAGH.com there a number of studies that he's presented on the subject but he gives you just enough to not let you know what he's doing of course. My age is 34, I'm 5'11 235. Again not looking to do anything for the torn cartilage just looking at options because I don't want to have a knee replacement now. From my understanding treatment with the GH can buy me 10-15 years before I would actually need to replace the knee and by then there will
Hopefully be something new. Thanks for your replys. I will check out the Denovo also.

I checked out the website....If you are into experimental options then i say try it bro..all you have to lose is money... but to me it sounds like he is taking an experimental route to solve a problem thats already been solved with an FDA approved treatment (notice how he states in his website that this is an off-label use). Basically wiping himself clean of any lawsuits for lost $ if the treatment doesnt work....

......Microfracture is a procedure where an orthopedic surgeon uses a small pick or wire to drill into the articular surface of your joint (usually your femoral condyles) to cause bleeding bone. After the surface is microfractured the surgeon makes a well defined edge and can use fibrin glue to adhere graft into your defect. I mentioned Denovo earlier (there are others out there its just the brand that sticks out to me).
The graft is from juvenile donors because they are actually living condrocytes. The doc that wants to do the rhgh thing to you wants your body to begin to form the blood supply and new cartilage through new condrocytes...These grafts that are already FDA approved already have the living condrocytes in them. The success rate is reasonably good (good enough for the FDA).

im not telling you what to do but just be careful thats all..I can tell you that at 35 a knee replacement is a bad idea. It will put you with a revision knee replacement by the time you are 60 if you're lucky. Then again at 85....not good..

good luck man

Yeah thanks and that's what I was thinking. It isn't going to cost anything I work for an HRT doc and I presented the idea to him and he said he would supply it if I was willing to give it a go. I'll try to post my previous MRI and then we're planning on another 6 month follow up to see where it's at.