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Skylar
02-11-2002, 02:37 PM
Hey girls <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

I&#39;m new to the board, Profeul from MES/Rx board told me about the womens forum here and I&#39;m sooo GLAD he did. I&#39;ve read some of the old posts and a lot of my questions have already been answered but I just have a few more....

I&#39;m ready to get serious about my body and I want to kickstart my metabolism, my past eating habits have definately screwed up my metabolism. &nbsp;I used to think that by not eating I&#39;d get results, unfortunately that just turned into more problems including an eating disorder(bulimia/aneroxia) so now I want to take something that&#39;s going to get my metabolism going again. &nbsp;I know the importance of clean eating and exercise but I want to try out Clen or maybe T3?

I&#39;ve used products like Hydroxycut and Xenadrine but I wanna try something new. &nbsp;what do you think of a clen/T3 combo for a beginner like myself? is clen/ECA a better choice? I know the approx. doses for the clen but I&#39;m not sure about T3? &nbsp;I was also wondering about my diet while on clen/T3, should I still keep it quite strict? &nbsp;I&#39;ve also been reading a lot about CKD/BODYOPUS diets and I was wondering how that would work while taking clen/T3 or Clen/ECA? &nbsp;Have any of you tried this diet? what do you think of it? It&#39;s seems like hard work but I&#39;ve heard a lot of people say they see GREAT results while on it, but most of the feedback I&#39;ve gotten has been from the guys and I&#39;d really like a women&#39;s perspective.

Ok I&#39;m gonna STOP rambling....if you can help me out with my questions I&#39;d really appreciate it. Once again it&#39;s so cool to be able to have a board like this for women <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

THANX
SKYLAR <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-11-2002, 02:41 PM
sup skylar... welcome to MC... i&#39;m sure the girls will be in soon to answer all you&#39;re questions...
in the meantime .. how about adding some stats, workout experience etc..

tiny

Skylar
02-11-2002, 02:53 PM
Hey girl....

sorry I guess I should have given you more info....

ok i&#39;m 5&#39;8 about 140-145 but the problem isn&#39;t so much my weight, to be honest I could be 160 as long as I looked toned and lean. &nbsp;My bf % is too high and my body just doesn&#39;t look nice. &nbsp;I know that anyone can lose weight but I wanna lose weight and be toned. &nbsp;I try to get to the gym 5x a week. &nbsp;I used to just do cardio until I started to read more and now I know to incorporate weights into my routine. &nbsp;I know that I have a ways to go but sometimes the thing that gets you to keep going is when you see results quickly....

I hope that&#39;s enough info
Skylar <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-11-2002, 02:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Skylar @ Feb. 11 2002,10:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey girl....[/quote]
thats bro sweetie.. <!--emo&???--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> ...lol... damn.. i thought i had one of those manly names... <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--> ..

tiny

Skylar
02-11-2002, 03:03 PM
LOL, I&#39;m sorry... I&#39;m sure you&#39;re a very manly man... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

skylar <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->

Dezir
02-11-2002, 04:39 PM
First let me welcome you to our family <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> .

T3 and clen is one of those things that everyone just has to try and see if it works for them. Personly I love T3 and I hate clen...lol. But most people who use clen like it, I have tried a few times, and each time I can handel it a little longer than the time before, so I am sure I will probably be using it again. If you decide to use T3, the doses that I use are:

Week 1, 25mcg ED
Week 2, 50mcg ED
Week 3, 75mcg ED
Week 4, 50mcg ED
Week 5, 25mcg ED

That is what I did my first time using it....the second time I used it I added another week of 75mcg. With T3 it is very important to ramp it up and then back down, and I strongly feel that women should not go above 75mcg, the thyroid does a lot in your body, to me its just not worth risking any long term side effects. If you use clen with it...still use the same way, and when using clen...use for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off....on the weeks off of clen you can use an ECA stack, but don&#39;t use clen and ECA together.

I have not tried the bodyopus diet or the ckd....I just do low to no carbs.....well, I try anyway..lol.

Hope that helps some. Take care and good luck&#33;&#33;



<!--EDIT|Dezir|Feb. 11 2002,1:45-->

mbstrong
02-11-2002, 05:40 PM
Welcome to MC&#33;&#33;

dedprez*
02-11-2002, 06:54 PM
tiny ....u little bitch&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

dedprez*
02-11-2002, 06:56 PM
oh...and welcome 2 musclechemistry skylar&#33;&#33;

tiny
02-11-2002, 07:56 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dedprez @ Feb. 12 2002,02:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->tiny ....u little bitch&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
i&#39;m like the ferris wheel... EVERYONE get&#39;s a ride... <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

tiny <!--emo&(.--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='(.'><!--endemo-->

Stickler
02-11-2002, 08:06 PM
welcome to the family skylar&#33;@ ... &nbsp;every new member is an asset to the mc.com family... hope you get the info you&#39;re looking for.. and keep coming back ... you can get alot of good specific info here... (plus alot of crazy stuff goes on too.. LOL) ...

dedprez*
02-11-2002, 09:34 PM
tiny....u r like the town bike...every1 has been on it&#33;&#33; <!--emo&:devil:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;<!--emo&:tough:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tough2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tough:'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-11-2002, 10:33 PM
LMAO... &nbsp;<!--emo&(.--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='(.'><!--endemo-->

tiny

BJ
02-12-2002, 04:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Skylar @ Feb. 11 2002,7:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->LOL, I&#39;m sorry... I&#39;m sure you&#39;re a very manly man... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

skylar <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
now THAT has to be the funniest line I&#39;ve EVER read on here lmfao &nbsp;<!--emo&:lol:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':lol:'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;<!--emo&:lol:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':lol:'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-12-2002, 09:56 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dedprez @ Feb. 12 2002,05:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->tiny....u r like the town bike...every1 has been on it&#33;&#33; <!--emo&:devil:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:tough:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tough2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tough:'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
i&#39;m like a doorknob... everyone get&#39;s a turn... &nbsp;<!--emo&(.--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='(.'><!--endemo-->

tiny &quot;the manly, yet total slut&quot; &nbsp;<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-12-2002, 09:58 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BJ @ Feb. 12 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->LOL, I&#39;m sorry... I&#39;m sure you&#39;re a very manly man... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

skylar <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
now THAT has to be the funniest line I&#39;ve EVER read on here lmfao <!--emo&:lol:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':lol:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:lol:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':lol:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
whats BJ short for again ... <!--emo&:sarcasm:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'><!--endemo-->

tiny <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->

BJ
02-12-2002, 12:08 PM
Tiny ya cut me real deep just then real deep. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

But its about time ya came up with an ORIGINAL COME-BACK &nbsp;<!--emo&:sarcasm:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-12-2002, 01:32 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BJ @ Feb. 12 2002,8:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->But its about time ya came up with an ORIGINAL COME-BACK <!--emo&:sarcasm:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'><!--endemo-->[/quote]
i know... <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--> ..but how can you do a comeback from that manlyman comment... <!--emo&:lol:--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':lol:'><!--endemo-->
atleast i tried.. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

tiny

enchantra
02-12-2002, 02:46 PM
Welcome to MC <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

Skylar
02-12-2002, 03:51 PM
Hey everyone,

I gotta tell you, I didn&#39;t think one comment would get so much replies.... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

BUT you know what would be even better if you guys could help me out with some of my original post questions.

Info on CKD diet, how well it works for women? Cardio exercise while on it? Doing the diet while on a T3/CLEN cycle? What you think of T3/CLEN cycle?
I hope you guys are just as enthusiastic about this post <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->

THANKS
SKYLAR <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

tubby
02-12-2002, 04:46 PM
well 1st off welcome aboard skylar and second.....you have to understand....we take EVERY opportunity to cut on tiny as much as humanly possible.....I mean you MADE my day when I saw you thought he was a she.....I LMFAO so thank you for that.

now to your questions.,.,......I have done well with ECA......clen I saw minimal results and currently I&#39;m on T3 and the jury is still deliberating. &nbsp;I will say this.....if you&#39;re gonna use T3 then I say stack it with a Test (I&#39;m using Prop right now) because the T3 WILL each your muscle as well as the fat.........so if you can take the shakes I&#39;d say go Clen 2 weeks on and ECA for the next 2 weeks and repeat for say a month and see how you react to it.

Oh now that I&#39;m thinking about it there is one thing you can do while using T3 instead of anabolics.......stack it with Clen.....the thing is that cycling every 2 weeks won&#39;t work as well soooo you&#39;d need Ketotifin also, this allows you to stay on the Clen at a lower dosage and you won&#39;t need to come off it every 2 weeks

So here would be &nbsp;possible scenario for ya;

Weeks 1-8 &nbsp;Clen (anywhere from 1-4 depending on you)
Weeks 1-8 Keto ( 1 a day keeps the Dr away)
Weeks 1-8 T3....make sure you start at 25mcg a week and add 25mcg every week until you &nbsp;work up to 100 then work back down to 25.

To be honest with you thoug.....I had my best results to date using an ECA (ripped fuel) and using a CKD diet or atkins diet....basically LOW LOW CARBS and a ton of protein and a good amount of fat.....don&#39;t fear the fat&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

well that&#39;s my &#036;0.02 but I&#39;m a guy so how I react could be vastly different to how you react to these substances.

GOOD LUCK
Tubby

Dezir
02-12-2002, 05:58 PM
Just incase you didn&#39;t see.....I have a response in the middle of this mess &nbsp;<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

Dezir
02-12-2002, 06:10 PM
With clen......once your temp goes back to normal...it is no longer working (this usualy takes 2 weeks or close to it) So like Tubby suggests....at lower doses you can stay on longer...thats not always the case (sorry Tubby). Clen works as a thermo...(brings up your temp)...so if its not elevated, its not working for fat lose. And as far as T3 goes....I myself have not had problems losing muscle on it....just keep your protien high. And in my honest opinion, women should never use test. Sorry Tubby, I don&#39;t mean to argue with you here, but it sure seems that I am doesn&#39;t it...lol <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> But I do agree with you on one point...don&#39;t fear fat......don&#39;t go overboard either, but our bodies need a certain amount to use for energy (besides what we have stored up..lol) specialy if you are doing very low carbs. Without it, your body will turn to protien for the energy, and that makes things pretty difficult on your muslces. &nbsp;
Hope we are helping you out some here Sky....or are you totaly confused now....lol &nbsp;<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

tiny
02-12-2002, 06:10 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I will say this.....if you&#39;re gonna use T3 then I say stack it with a Test (I&#39;m using Prop right now) because the T3 WILL each your muscle as well as the fat.........[/quote]
<s>ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY BRO... she&#39;s a G I R L&#33;&#33;&#33;
</s>
testosterone should never be used by girls.. we&#39;re in the womans forum now you know tub... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> ..lol..

tiny

(was this nice enough dez..lol.. <!--emo&:,--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':,'><!--endemo--> )



<!--EDIT|tiny|Feb. 13 2002,02:25-->

Dezir
02-12-2002, 06:27 PM
LOL.....yah, thats much better Tiny.....

mr456
02-12-2002, 06:37 PM
Hi Skylar...Welcome to MC. You can tell by all the men posting on the womens board that we don&#39;t see too many of the opposite life form around here &nbsp; <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
&nbsp; &nbsp;My wife used clen/t-3 for about 8 weeks and noticed a substantial loss of fat. Just keep your protein intake high and you won&#39;t lose any muscle. By high I mean at least 1g per pound of body weight. Good luck
&nbsp; &nbsp; As for you Tiny...you little GIRLY-MAN &nbsp; HAHAHAHAHA try a more manly name like...ummmm &nbsp;mr.tiny <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;Kinda cuts out the the possibility of any confusion. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

Skylar
02-12-2002, 06:51 PM
I just wanted to let you all know that all your info has been very helpful. &nbsp;This is a great site and I just wanted to say Thanks for making me feel so at home here. &nbsp;Before finding this board I was so clueless to what my body needs and can handle but with all the info on ALL the board it&#39;s been a lot easier to figure things out. &nbsp;YOU GUYS KICK ASS &nbsp;<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

SKYLAR <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

tubby
02-13-2002, 01:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tiny @ Feb. 12 2002,8:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I will say this.....if you&#39;re gonna use T3 then I say stack it with a Test (I&#39;m using Prop right now) because the T3 WILL each your muscle as well as the fat.........[/quote]
<s>ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY BRO... she&#39;s a G I R L&#33;&#33;&#33;
</s>
testosterone should never be used by girls.. we&#39;re in the womans forum now you know tub... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> ..lol..

tiny

(was this nice enough dez..lol.. <!--emo&:,--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':,'><!--endemo--> )[/quote]
yeah and I said that was NOT an option ya BOOB.....then I went on to explain that she could use Clen with the T3.....why you dissin me man&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;<!--emo&???--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--><!--emo&???--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;LOL

but you&#39;re RIGHT.....NO WOMAN SHOULD USE TEST......well except you tiny......YOU BIG WOMAN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; &nbsp;j/k

good luck skylar


tubs

tiny
02-13-2002, 01:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->NO WOMAN SHOULD USE TEST......well except you tiny......YOU BIG WOMAN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; j/k[/quote]
&quot;Loud Sigh&quot; , &quot;Fine&quot;,&quot;Go Ahead&quot; (with raised eyebrows) be that way... there&#39;s &quot;Nothing&quot; wrong with you calling me names...&quot;That&#39;s Okay&quot; ... btw, &quot;Thanks A Lot&quot; and i&#39;ll be replying to this in &quot;Five minutes&quot;...

tiny

tubby
02-13-2002, 03:05 PM
Ok I brought my dictionary bro.....what am I looking for here.

You know you;re the MAN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; &nbsp;I&#39;m just an overweight insecure bastard LOL......don&#39;t mind me

oh and you ever notice how we always (well I always) invade peoples threads with my personal Bull SHit with YOU......I&#39;m such an ASS. &nbsp; I think I need a chill pill

lol

tubs

tiny
02-13-2002, 04:38 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tubby @ Feb. 13 2002,11:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->oh and you ever notice how we always (well I always) invade peoples threads with my personal Bull SHit with YOU......[/quote]
LMAO ... yah, i know ... you&#39;re a regular thread-wrecker ... hahaha..

tiny

FemFit
02-13-2002, 05:07 PM
Welcome to MC&#33;&#33;

Just curious...have you ever used the ECA stack before?

Skylar
02-13-2002, 10:46 PM
Yes, I have used an ECA stack before and I did like the results but from what I&#39;ve been reading it seems like I can get better results from the CLEN/T3 combo.

Have you ever done the CKD/ Body Opus diet Spanishfly or any other ladies?

Take Care
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FemFit
02-14-2002, 11:28 AM
Ok, I see b/c I was going to suggest the ECA before you tried the T3/clen combo.

Yes the ECA does work real well for me too. &nbsp;I have never done T3, but clen-yes. &nbsp;I really like clen alot. &nbsp;I saw results real quick. &nbsp;The sides were the shakes(trembling hands--pretty bad) the first few days I got a headache, and there was some sleeplessness until my body adjusted to it. &nbsp;It was awesome...some don&#39;t like it though. &nbsp;I did 2wks clen then 2 wks ECA. &nbsp;I started off with the lowest dose I had and upped each day until I was at my limit..or the max amout I could tolerate..everyone is different so I don&#39;t know what would be best for you. &nbsp;Dezir explained it well in her post. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

As for the CDK/Opus diet...nope never tried them. &nbsp;Sorry&#33;&#33; &nbsp;Hope I helped&#33; <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/IB3/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->