Is it possible to "Over-heat/Over Cook" solutions?

PAL · Sep 12, 2012

Just baked some tren powder for about 10 minutes directly on the stove (tren and oils in glass beaker) at Medium temperature, seen some small boiling bubbles and turned the heat down..

Now the solution is REALLY DARK, like almost a burnt color? Not your average orange/gold tren, this stuff is almost brown, came from a great sponsor though, USP graded.. dosed it around 125mg/ml.. Could that be the reason for the darkness?

bigwig · Sep 12, 2012

Doesnt sound right to me, maybe it will lighten up after filtering

PAL · Sep 12, 2012

it did lighten up a little bit after filtered, but still very dark, i can still see all those "crystal like" particles in it though, when held up to the light..

I seriously dont see how i could have burnt any of it up, just wanted to check is that even possible? If so, what temperature range or time, would you estimate that it could start burning the hormone..?

I react FAST to tren, just took a cc in my delt, i should know by next week if anything at all is off about it..

Just really dark stuff i think.. USP grade Tren acetate

Presser · Sep 12, 2012

got me bro, what oil did you use, im sure that has to do with its color to? post a picture of it so we can see

GATOR98 · Sep 13, 2012

Tren oxidizes (with the oxygen in the vial) when heated too much bro. I've done tren conversions numerous times, i like to heat the solution very little (like under 40 DEG C or so), or else it goes really dark. Tren is very sensitive when heated. Its still good to use though IMO. Hope that helps

Presser · Sep 13, 2012

good info brutha!

GATOR98 · Sep 13, 2012

Thanks, long time no see....well sort-of, no see. LOL. Been off the forums for a while.

Presser · Sep 13, 2012

GATOR98 said:
Thanks, long time no see....well sort-of, no see. LOL. Been off the forums for a while.

yep i noticed that when i seen ur name,lol, surprised me

PAL · Sep 13, 2012

filtered grade seed oil, 5% ba, 3% bb 20 grams if tren

bigghorn · Sep 16, 2012

So how did it go? The shot that is.? Wouldn't you use a 2% Ba/ 20%Bb if you see crystals that may plug a pin if think if you use a 25g ??

And to clarify your procedure you mixed then heated "then" filtered into sterile vial then reheat that again in an oven at 225' for say 15min?

PAL · Dec 18, 2012

Yes sir. Those were exactly my steps.

I have changed it up. First of all I don't use any BB anymore in my test enanthate solutions. 5%BA the rest is all test and grapeseed oil only.. I heat it directly; nvtge stove in a glass beaker.. maybe 2 minutes on medium/high..

Best test I've had!

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csuperman · Dec 18, 2012

PAL said:
Yes sir. Those were exactly my steps.

I have changed it up. First of all I don't use any BB anymore in my test enanthate solutions. 5%BA the rest is all test and grapeseed oil only.. I heat it directly; nvtge stove in a glass beaker.. maybe 2 minutes on medium/high..

Best test I've had!

The 5% BA doesnt sting at all?

little guy · Dec 18, 2012

PAL said:
filtered grade seed oil, 5% ba, 3% bb 20 grams if tren

Hay why not 15% on BB this help hold hormone. To much BA for my liking.

Please post step by step on what you did. Tell me amount of everything you used. And can you post a pic of final oil.

Also what type of filter. .22 or .45

stone14 · Feb 9, 2013

would it not be best to get the temp say 10oC above the raws melting point rather than just blast the oven/hob temp up to max?

KrazyIvan · Mar 22, 2013

"USP trenbolone" => doesnt exist.

there isnt a US Pharmacopeia approved trenbolone.

as for dark colour, it happens when you apply too much heat. gear is still good though, as other poster confirmed

BEASTZ6 · Apr 13, 2013

I never bake my stuff. I put 100 ml vials in boiling water in a sauce pan on the stove top, and swirl them periodically. I know when its done when I don't see any swirling in the vial. Then I use the .45 Whatman filter to finish it off. My last batch with Cyp took about an hour on the stove because I pushed it to 300 mgs/ml.

PAL · Apr 14, 2013

I started using 15% BB with .05 BA .. enathate at 300mg.. no sting anymore! Just took me a few tries to get it right after taking 8 years off from brewing

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Zeus · Apr 14, 2013

It turns dark when it gets over heated like gator said. You should be all good bro.

PAL · Apr 14, 2013

Zeus said:
It turns dark when it gets over heated like gator said. You should be all good bro.

Exactly... and you'll notice the test crystals tend to bottom out of the solution ..

So to answer my very first question for everyone about this post..

"YES it is very possible to over heat your test and ruin it"

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overburdened · May 29, 2013

PAL said:
Just baked some tren powder for about 10 minutes directly on the stove (tren and oils in glass beaker) at Medium temperature, seen some small boiling bubbles and turned the heat down..

Now the solution is REALLY DARK, like almost a burnt color? Not your average orange/gold tren, this stuff is almost brown, came from a great sponsor though, USP graded.. dosed it around 125mg/ml.. Could that be the reason for the darkness?

Tren is easy to overheat if you aren't careful and move fairly quickly... It oxidises easily. I don't know if I misunderstood you, but I saw 'oils', and not solvents.. did you use ba/bb?
It sounds like you partially oxidized it, reducing it's potency. If you didn't use solvents, that's why you see crystals(if you did, it could be a number of different things...

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