Lab equipment

NAIR

NAIR

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I'm curious if anyone here has a background in chemistry. Even high-school basic chem would be useful. My aim is to identify correct laboratory equipment to compose a sterile batch of home brew.

Unfortunately, most of what I see online is people making this shit with frying pans and muffin containers. Can you imagine how diluted the majority of home brew is? Yes, I suppose the with BA and filtration the solution ultimately becomes somewhat sterile (or at least, sterile enough). But if I were to consider experimenting with my own batches for personal use, I'd want to ensure that I could replicate--as much as possible--a sterile lab with professional equipment and end up with a pure product.

Any thoughts?
 
Doesn't the sticky thread in this forum have recipes that list the supplies needed?
 
Well, yes--the author, an unknown guest, outlined his methods in the sticky. And guess what he uses? Frying pans and muffin sheets!
 
I guess a scale would be a good idea lol and I just looked at the sticky thread with recipes and seen where you came up with a muffin pan idea lol

So your looking to build a "Breaking Bad" type of lab lol you will need an RV for sure lol
 
Presser said:
I guess a scale would be a good idea lol and I just looked at the sticky thread with recipes and seen where you came up with a muffin pan idea lol

So your looking to build a "Breaking Bad" type of lab lol
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LMAO! Fuck. I knew that was going to come up. But yes--that's more in line with my goals. To be clear, I'm interested in personal quantities, so industrial equipment that needs to be hidden underground is quite out of question. More like something that could fit in a camper lol.
 
NAIR said:
LMAO! Fuck. I knew that was going to come up. But yes--that's more in line with my goals. To be clear, I'm interested in personal quantities, so industrial equipment that needs to be hidden underground is quite out of question. More like something that could fit in a camper lol.
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Bodybuilders will be Feining for the Blue Oil Juice! Lol
 
Sterile syringes, needles 18gauge, sterile vials your choice 50ml and 100ml work nice, one Erlenmeyer Flask, and varying sizes of beakers 100ml, 250ml, 400ml, depending on the amount your making. A scale that reads to the 0.1g or better. A glass stir rod, or you can use a sterile syringe. And then your sterile filters 0.1-0.2 microns is considered a sterile filter, can be syringe or complete setup but PVDF filter type. Alcohol swabs, a bottle of 90% isopropyl alcohol, some gauze 4x4 or larger for cleaning. And some type of disinfectant to spray and wipe down your working area, anything with chlorhexadine works well, or 50/50 bleach and water. Sterile gloves is also nice to have.
The reason guys use muffin pans and the like is because it's a pretty simple process, but in a lab this is what would be used.
I have a degree in Chemistry, Organic Chem.
 
100% right!
I would only add that if you want to go little over your own needs :D, it would be nice to have a good autoclave sterilizer. Sterility is a must :sport:
 
Thanks for the info, guys. Your posts prompted me to get off my ass and go through my attic in search of my old college books. I actually have a copy of Chemistry for Dummies lol.

Anyway, I feel pretty confident about the equipment I'll need to acquire, including heating source(s). I've also mapped out a fairly practical way to construct a sterile site. However, I find myself struggling with the idea of purity. In particular, I'd like to know how I can measure and maintain purity.

Also, as I mentioned before, I'm concerned about the so-called "recipes" that are available online. It seems reasonable to me that certain temperatures should be maintained during the process, but the guides I've seen only offer very loose ranges (e.g " at least 212;" or "maybe 275")--absolutely nothing precise. Since I doubt that I'm going to find an authoritative source for home brewing, do you think this is more of something that requires trial and error?
 
Not really, your vials should be bought ready sterile, as for temps, I think there is a post here for that. You don't need heat to sterilize your final product, it dosnt hurt to go that extra step, but if you filter with a 0.2 micron filter, that will filter out all bugs, bacteria and is considered sterile. The heat is mainly used to help your raw go into solution, and low low heat at that. And as far as BA 2% BB 18% will hold just about anything you can get, as long as you don't make it too concentrated. There are good threads on here about brewing, just plan.
 
MonkeyWrench said:
Not really, your vials should be bought ready sterile, as for temps, I think there is a post here for that. You don't need heat to sterilize your final product, it dosnt hurt to go that extra step, but if you filter with a 0.2 micron filter, that will filter out all bugs, bacteria and is considered sterile. The heat is mainly used to help your raw go into solution, and low low heat at that. And as far as BA 2% BB 18% will hold just about anything you can get, as long as you don't make it too concentrated. There are good threads on here about brewing, just plan.
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Your avatar suits you lol
 
MonkeyWrench said:
Not really, your vials should be bought ready sterile, as for temps, I think there is a post here for that. You don't need heat to sterilize your final product, it dosnt hurt to go that extra step, but if you filter with a 0.2 micron filter, that will filter out all bugs, bacteria and is considered sterile. The heat is mainly used to help your raw go into solution, and low low heat at that. And as far as BA 2% BB 18% will hold just about anything you can get, as long as you don't make it too concentrated. There are good threads on here about brewing, just plan.
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yeah throw in some whatman filters...

too bad the old Animal kits aren't around any more...you could make anything from test to fina with those things

I think he was the first one to come up with universal and fina kits
 
Got it. Looking back, I think I made matters way more complicated than needed. I tend to be a perfectionist with things which often means I often spend far too much time and energy on things that end up being irrelevant.

Still, I think going the extra mile to make a mini lab that's sterile enough for real chemical production is the way to go.

Thanks again for the help. I may very well come back here for advice if I run into any hurdles.
 
It's never a bad idea to research as many ideas/avenues as possible when it comes to injecting a chemical into your body, that your planning on manufacturing yourself, always start small... Test E is by far the easiest to make. The first part.. Melting, mixing your oils/raw should be done as "Clean" as possible, after that, you start your "Sterile" process, a sterile field should be set up, research sterile fields and procedures. Sterile vials and whattman filters do a good job at this, but larger volumes are harder to stay 100% sterile, you'll make mistakes but if you start small and keep a log of some sort your learning curve will not be so bad.

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NAIR said:
Got it. Looking back, I think I made matters way more complicated than needed. I tend to be a perfectionist with things which often means I often spend far too much time and energy on things that end up being irrelevant.

Still, I think going the extra mile to make a mini lab that's sterile enough for real chemical production is the way to go.

Thanks again for the help. I may very well come back here for advice if I run into any hurdles.
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You mean we might be lucky enough to be graced with your presence! Gee Thanks
 
Presser said:
You mean we might be lucky enough to be graced with your presence! Gee Thanks
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Jesus, that does sound bad. I really didn't mean it like that, though. Glad I have you to me straighten me out lol
 
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