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BkMothaFuka
11-12-2013, 01:27 AM
Any one used refined coconut oil as carrier? I have used GSO oil before but heard of UGs using coconut oil and had a site that sells it. Any negatives to using it. I want to take it anyway so figure why not use it, plus it's cheaper than GSO not that I care about the money.

Presser
11-12-2013, 11:34 AM
Any one used refined coconut oil as carrier? I have used GSO oil before but heard of UGs using coconut oil and had a site that sells it. Any negatives to using it. I want to take it anyway so figure why not use it, plus it's cheaper than GSO not that I care about the money.

i dont know bro, do people have an allergy to coconut oil like they do with peanut oil? I know i wouldnt mess with it, Now I know safflour oil is a good carrier and thinner then gso and cheaper to, but not sure about coconut brutha, i dont think i would mess with it

csuperman
11-12-2013, 01:04 PM
coconut oil is a solid at room temp

Presser
11-12-2013, 01:32 PM
that cant be good lol

csuperman
11-12-2013, 03:34 PM
I would go with what most pharmaceutical companies use, cottonseed oil, or grapeseed.

BkMothaFuka
11-12-2013, 03:44 PM
I know of UG that's pretty popular that uses coconut oil. Also is listed as a carrier oil on a sponsor.

BkMothaFuka
11-12-2013, 03:50 PM
Med and lab supply carries it listed as a carrier oil. I will be using GSO till I get a solid answer thou lol.

charliebigspuds
11-12-2013, 04:50 PM
coconut oil is a solid at room temp


i cook my chicken in it and dam it taste good..but i can state that yep its solid at room temp..great for chicken bad for asses...lol..imho..

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coconut oil is a solid at room temp


i cook my chicken in it and dam it taste good..but i can state that yep its solid at room temp..great for chicken bad for asses...lol..imho..

csuperman
11-12-2013, 08:55 PM
I know of UG that's pretty popular that uses coconut oil. Also is listed as a carrier oil on a sponsor.

if they figured out how to use it more power to them but theres a reason why big pharma uses certain things

Cowboy3
11-24-2013, 07:25 PM
Certain fractions of coconut oil are good for brewing and will hold hormones at a higher amount than GSO or CSO. I've never used coconut oil in gear but have used avocado and like it much more than GSO or CSO. I've heard good things from the people who have used coconut oil with gear though. Also I'm not sure on this but would think the solvents(ba, bb, eo) would be enough to keep coconut oil liquid at room temperature. If not, you could simply hold the vial in your hand until it was over 78 degrees and you'd be fine.

Part of the reason pharmaceutical companies don't change their carrier oil is they would need to prove it safe meaning a new round of trials which are expensive. Since they can't patent injectable test there isn't enough money in it for them to switch to a different carrier. Whats used by pharma isn't always best today though it may have been at the time of creation.

testquest
01-09-2014, 09:08 AM
Certain fractions of coconut oil are good for brewing....

Cowboy's right. Fractionated coconut oil is what your looking for I believe.

Wikipedia for Coconut Oil :

Fractionation

Fractionated coconut oil is a fraction of the whole oil, in which the different medium-chain fatty acids are separated for specific uses. Lauric acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauric_acid), a 12-carbon chain fatty acid, is often removed because of its high value for industrial and medical purposes.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil#cite_note-19) The fractionation of coconut oil may be used to make caprylic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caprylic_acid)/capric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capric_acid) triglyceride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triglyceride) oil.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil#cite_note-RiegelKent2003-20) Medium-chain triglycerides (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-chain_triglycerides) such as caprylic/capric triglyceride oil are most frequently used for medical applications, special diets, and cosmetics, sometimes also being used as a carrier oil for fragrances.

ChemMan
01-09-2014, 01:28 PM
choose castor (ricin) oil- its best carrier and has outstanding properties when holding hormone in depot without turning it in crystals
coconut oil could be very similar as it has higher viscosity than simple oil and should have similar properties as castor oil. But for sure you need to add BB and EO to it to make it at least filterable :)

RagingWhoreMoan
01-09-2014, 01:33 PM
solid at room temp... maybe mix it with GSO

Otherwise sounds too THICK

testquest
01-10-2014, 12:59 PM
solid at room temp... maybe mix it with GSO

Otherwise sounds too THICK


Fractionated Coconut Oil is liquid at room temp. 14911

RagingWhoreMoan
01-10-2014, 04:58 PM
Fractionated Coconut Oil is liquid at room temp. 14911

never heard of the stuff

ChemMan
01-12-2014, 08:33 AM
Fractionated Coconut Oil is liquid at room temp. 14911

i do think you mean MCT oil?
yes this oil is used by some UG laboratories due to its low viscosity and ability to carry pretty big amounts of hormone without crashing.
There are some doubts that this oil should be used only for Synthol but if you do some research you could find that Indian companies uses it to suspend tetosterone etc, but in those cases they use the proportions 2:1 of MCT:Castor oil etc.

testquest
01-12-2014, 02:31 PM
I believe that is correct ChemMan. They remove the lauric acid from it. Leaving only unsaturated fat left.
Also it has an indefinite shelf-life.

Does anyone know how much Test E, MCT Coconut Oil can carry without other solvents?

ChemMan
01-13-2014, 12:45 PM
I believe that is correct ChemMan. They remove the lauric acid from it. Leaving only unsaturated fat left.
Also it has an indefinite shelf-life.

Does anyone know how much Test E, MCT Coconut Oil can carry without other solvents?

i think in this case only trial/error method will help to answer this question.
Experiments with MTC oil is not widely spread but you could see what literature writes:

Molar solubility of Testosterone propionate in Castor oil = 0.078.
Molar solubility of Testosterone propionate in MCT oil = 0.038.
Molar solubility of Testosterone propionate in MCT oil and Castor oil mix (2:1/ v:v= in other words 66.6% MCT oil and 33.3% of Castor oil) = 0.081

WIkipedia: "Molar solubility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solubility) is the number of moles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_%28unit%29) of a substance (the solute) that can be dissolved per liter of solution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution) before the solution becomes saturated. It can be calculated from a substance's solubility product (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solubility_product) constant (Ksp) and stoichiometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoichiometry). The units are mol/L, sometimes written as M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molar_%28concentration%29)"

What it shows is that even though MCT oil is not yield perfect solubility itself- when mixed with other vegetable oils it could in fact increase or at least keep the same solubility level as using only vegetable oil. So in case you planning to use MCT oil- make sure to use some other oil in conjunction with it to avoid unexpected crashing of products.

charliebigspuds
01-13-2014, 01:01 PM
well knock me over with a coconut and there was me thinking its jst for my chicken..

testquest
01-14-2014, 08:39 AM
well knock me over with a coconut and there was me thinking its jst for my chicken..

That's why he's the ChemMan..I just get paid to hold the vials. :chicken:

ChemMan
01-15-2014, 07:27 AM
That's why he's the ChemMan..I just get paid to hold the vials. :chicken:

hehe :D

i am just nerd with love for steroids =)

RagingWhoreMoan
01-15-2014, 11:26 AM
Can MCT/Coco oil be absorbed thru the skin? Can it be used as a carrier for a transdermal?

testquest
01-15-2014, 11:53 AM
All oil is transdermal. Depending on what you add to the oil, the effects can become more obvious.

I personally would aim for more Omega 3's with my oils. Almost every oil has a lot of Omega 6's, and in order to to be healthy you need to have roughly 50/50 balance.

-At least this is what todays research is telling us. :thumbsup: