BIG SECRET behind EO PIP solved!

hey bros,

this is good amount of time while all claims that there are big allergies to EO and some serious soreness from it and i am one of those "unlucky" who has this reaction same. All the time i was getting some ethyl oleate little yellowish to pale color (UPS grade , originally from China) , with some acidity smell. I used it many times with success and sometimes with big unsuccessful (big welts happen). So i stopped it using at all. But recently i had an offer to buy some Ethyl oleate BP standard. I was anxious about it but finally i decided to try. And guess what?- the difference is very big even from first point of view. It is total off color- transparent. It has no acidity smell and it smells much more as oil instead of some acid. It has totally zero pip problems associated with old Ethyl oleate i have used. To be sure i have tried old EO to see that maybe it is some coincidence that no welts occur. Just after 3rd injection the welts happen again! Once i get back to new EO there was no those problems again! So i am 99% sure that all these widespread problems are associated with low quality Ethyl Oleate which is possibility coming from China and is not suitable for injection at all.

Just though to divide this with you all guys not to be desperate that you are one of those "unlucky" allergic to EO like i though before.
Thanx!

Where are you guys getting the crappy EO from?

In most cases its from China. My my latest research it is even more associated with the origin of Ethyl Oleate itself (it could be plant based or animal based) and from my personal experience animal based ethyl oleate is the one to cause all those massive problems. - its very strange that noone discussed this before and all though that there exist some mysterious allergy to EO, expecially having in mind that you can find zero negative feedback about Virormone or Farmak propionate side effects associated with EO ( and they are pure EO based gear)... just something to think about...

I have never used EO. I believe that it is only needed if you are trying to push a higher concentration of AAS. I have also heard that it will eat up the rubber stopper in your syringe. Which makes me wonder what it will do to your body.

Med supply.net U.K. Or U.S.A. GTG

IDK the shit still hurts me lol,

it's all garbage

Is it possible to use BB instead of EO in all recipes?

bioengineer said:

Is it possible to use BB instead of EO in all recipes?

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I think you might be confused. EO is a carrier oil. BB is a solvent.

Well I'm one of the lucky ones . It's doesn't bother me !?

BEASTZ6 said:

I think you might be confused. EO is a carrier oil. BB is a solvent.

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sorry, my mistake. my question was choosing between EO and GSO. I have heard EO make liquid thinner, smoother and no pip in compare with GSO. But, when i read the 1st post about ppl's reaction to EO, I'm in doubt to use EO.

I made Test P 20ml @ 100mg/ml:

0.40ml BA (2%)
3.60ml BB (18%)
2g Powder
14.18ml GSO

The liquid became very thick which was very difficult to draw out 1ml to inject, but No PiP at all. so any suggestion would be appreciated.

I am against EO only because it dissolves the rubber plunger in your syringe. I have always used GSO with no problem with PIP as long as you use 3% BA and 15% BB.

BEASTZ6 said:

I am against EO only because it dissolves the rubber plunger in your syringe. I have always used GSO with no problem with PIP as long as you use 3% BA and 15% BB.

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Thanks bro for your given opinion. I was all the time on 2%-18% and no pip except being thick. in the next recipe i'll use 3%-15% and hope becomes thin.

bioengineer said:

Thanks bro for your given opinion. I was all the time on 2%-18% and no pip except being thick. in the next recipe i'll use 3%-15% and hope becomes thin.

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That's not going to make it any thinner....if anything it'll be thicker. You could drop you're BA to 1% (which is plenty) and bump the BB up to 20%. It'll be somewhat thinner that way.

Rutman said:

That's not going to make it any thinner....if anything it'll be thicker. You could drop you're BA to 1% (which is plenty) and bump the BB up to 20%. It'll be somewhat thinner that way.

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1% BA ?! does 1% enough to keep Sterile for 3 years? since most of gears has this expiration date.

I did 18% BB but the liquid was thick. i'm thinking if i go up to 20% might become thicker.

Pharm grade gear like Watson Cyp only uses .9 % BA... That's why I say 1% is plenty.

bioengineer said:

1% BA ?! does 1% enough to keep Sterile for 3 years? since most of gears has this expiration date.

I did 18% BB but the liquid was thick. i'm thinking if i go up to 20% might become thicker.

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I doubt you'll have any left after 3 months let alone 3 years brutha lol,

Presser said:

I doubt you'll have any left after 3 months let alone 3 years brutha lol,

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lol
I'm thinking probably my source hasn't delivered good stuff. is there anyway except blood work to realize how much associated material is in the powder? (sorry if the question's place isn't here)

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Rutman said:

Pharm grade gear like Watson Cyp only uses .9 % BA... That's why I say 1% is plenty.

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I see bro Thanks!