enanthate esters 250mg/ml g2g?

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DaveYD

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Hello everyone,

since this is my first post on here I'll give a brief intro of myself. 26 in a few days, training seriously since 20, last 2-3 years started using.
Currently not in my best shape - Weigh 109kg height 186cm BF up to 20% atm (sorry about the metrics :)
prefer dry stuff as I bloat easily. Don't like EQ and havent tried primo yet, dont do orals much either.

going to brew for my first time and could use some hints from you. I have done a good bit of homework and decided to go with long esters for starters as they seem easier to hold.
I plan to go test, tren and mast all of them enanthate esters and @ 250mg/ml. I understand that the tren and mast will be harder to hold but though that at this concentration should be fine.
Would a 'standard' 2% BA 20% BB recipe hold this with carrier oil (will go with safflower USP grade)? If not, what should I adjust?
If needed I was thinking of doing a mix of 80% carrier oil 20% EO or even 50:50.

A second question as well - Im quite curious about trying out with slin pins (obviously for places with low BF). What kind of solution would make the above flow through?
My assumption would be that at least some EO would be needed, but how much? Or would heating the oil pre-inject suffice?

Thanks!
 
Welcome to MuscleChemistry brutha! As for the question, we have a sticky thread in this forum and it has all the recipes for each steroid listed. and in that same thread their are replies from others with various different ways of brewing each , so check that sticky thread out as it will help a lot I'm sure. I personally don't know much about this stuff, so i wouldn't know if the ba and bb %'s you listed are good or not, sorry its just not my thing lol,

bump for those who know more about this!

and again WELCOME TO MC!
 
Welcome to MC. You don't need EO. Use 3% BA and 18% bb. Heat the AAS until it melts. Add the solvents and stir with a glass rod. Add carrier oil, and then filter using a .22 filter.
 
Hi guys,

thanks for the welcoming. I have been researching this topic for a while now. The most standard solvents ratio from what I have seen is usually the 2% BA and 20% BB. I have also read that there is not really a need to ever go over 1% BA (although some guys go high as 5%+). And BB could be limited or avoided with long esters.
For my first batch I just want to do 250mg/ml enanthate esters which should be ok to hold I believe. I will be using a stiring thermometer to make sure the temp is right as well.

@BEASTZ6: thanks for the suggestions, for filtering will go with a syring .22 nylon filter for now. Any recommendations as to how make the gear go smoothly through a slin pin? I understand the solution should
hold fine in safflower oil itself but would it flow through the slin pin? Would heating pre-inject suffice? That is really the only reason why Im considering the EO addition.

Cheers
 
I can tell you with absolute certainly that if you make test e with 2%ba,20%bb and GSO at 250mg/ml it will flow through a 27guage 1/2" long pin. Warm the vial before drawing it in the syringe and it will flow but take forever. Injection subQ should be able to do .5ml per site in abdominal fat but I assume this is person dependent. One site per day is 125mg ED use is 875mg/week! want a full G? load one with 1ml for one day a week and do one inject each side of the belly button. Injection takes less then 10 seconds. Push needle in straight so it gets 1/2" deep. Don't go at a angle cause I would imagine it could get between skin and fat and cause a bubble(nothing threatening, just not the intent). A more efficient way to draw is to use a 18guage and switch needles. Load 10 syringes with one 18guage and put the 27guages on and store in ziplock bag. If you want to use slin pins, they are not avail that I can find in 27g. 28guage is very hard to draw with GSO even warm. There is a member here who uses MCT oil and says it works. As I slosh MCT around in the bottle I can see it is low viscosity. My gut feeling is MCT won't hold short esters at usable concentrations very well but I have not used it yet as the GSO flows easy the method described above. Sorry can't comment on your safflower question because I've never held any. Hope this clears up some confusion for you. I had to learn all this the old fashioned way.
 
Ohyea said:
I can tell you with absolute certainly that if you make test e with 2%ba,20%bb and GSO at 250mg/ml it will flow through a 27guage 1/2" long pin. Warm the vial before drawing it in the syringe and it will flow but take forever. Injection subQ should be able to do .5ml per site in abdominal fat but I assume this is person dependent. One site per day is 125mg ED use is 875mg/week! want a full G? load one with 1ml for one day a week and do one inject each side of the belly button. Injection takes less then 10 seconds. Push needle in straight so it gets 1/2" deep. Don't go at a angle cause I would imagine it could get between skin and fat and cause a bubble(nothing threatening, just not the intent). A more efficient way to draw is to use a 18guage and switch needles. Load 10 syringes with one 18guage and put the 27guages on and store in ziplock bag. If you want to use slin pins, they are not avail that I can find in 27g. 28guage is very hard to draw with GSO even warm. There is a member here who uses MCT oil and says it works. As I slosh MCT around in the bottle I can see it is low viscosity. My gut feeling is MCT won't hold short esters at usable concentrations very well but I have not used it yet as the GSO flows easy the method described above. Sorry can't comment on your safflower question because I've never held any. Hope this clears up some confusion for you. I had to learn all this the old fashioned way.
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you inject your testosterone SUBQ??
 
Presser, absolutely. It's absorption is, for all intents and purposes the same. Yes, it is slightly different but not worth measuring. This is a way to prevent scar tissue for those prone. My father was getting cortisone injections with what he believes we 22guage in his shoulder 18yrs ago and his recent scan shows every single poke hole as scar in the muscle. You could count the injections! Now please realize some build scar tissue worse than others as its genetics. Regardless, 27guage holes into fat I'm not going to concern myself with. Also, I have a bro that is on gear full time, no cycles and he uses 2g/week test e and well over a g of other aas when on blasts. That's a lot of IM holes per week so he gets some if not most of his test subQ now and tren,NPP ect goes IM. The jury is still out on Tren ect subQ and I have no experience either on this.
 
Yeah I've heard about guys going subQ with injections of testosterone and it just doesn't make sense to me, but if u say it works the same then I guess it does but I just don't see how is all
 
There is some studies on it for TRT but most feel the same as you and just keep doing IM cause that's just how it's done. In the next few years we will see a shift in thinking I believe. Next I will try the 27g 1/2" in my side delts. I don't see any reason why .3 ml wouldn't be happy there so we are back to IM but with a small pin. I think this would be a great way for other AAS to be administered but again have not done it yet. I personally get scar tissue from anything. A scratch, cut , surgery. Leaves crazy keloid growths all over. Ive had moles removed by dermatologists and left 1/2" scars where a 1/8" mole was so I can only imagine what a 1.5" long would do in my glute. I blame my mothers gene pool, English/Irish.
 
@Ohyea: Thanks for the hints. Safflower should actually be even a bit smoother than GSO so should be fine. My intention was to actually use the 'longer' slin pins for IM injects in low BF areas (thighs, bis, tric, delts..) but I have heard that you can do subq as well. Also you mentioned that it will flow with test but still am a bit concerned about the mast and tren. I might do more mini batches and see how they work out.

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@IronJulius: Thanks :)

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@IronJulius: Thanks :)
 
Hey guys,

just to give an update, looks like I the supplier accidentally sent tren A instead of E. No big deal, will just have to figure out a nice tren A recipe.

Does anyone know a decent recipe for higher concetration tren A? Id like to make it at least 150mg/ml - actually that'd be perfect, no need for 200mg/ml..

Also got TNE and read a reciped in one of the threads here using 2% BA and 10% guaiacol and carrier oil. Will that do the trick for 100mg/ml?

Thanks!
 
could only find 100mg/ml there. Would be interested in a nice 150mg/ml tren A recipe and a 100mg/ml for TNE (or for the TNE get confirmation that the 10% guaiacol with 2% would hold). Appreciated
 
DaveYD said:
could only find 100mg/ml there. Would be interested in a nice 150mg/ml tren A recipe and a 100mg/ml for TNE (or for the TNE get confirmation that the 10% guaiacol with 2% would hold). Appreciated
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how hard could the math be bro to cut the doses in half and add to the 100mg/ml recipe? super simple
 
guess that could work too but was hoping that someone might have a diff. recipe, e.g. I dont fancy a 30% BB concentration that much, I would replace it by EO for instance if possible.
 
I'm sorry but this thread sounds like some kid repeating something he heard or read and sticking by it as his own expirience.
 
at 26 not sure if I can consider myself a kid anymore. it will be my first time brewing my own stuff, that's why Im asking and trying to find some common good/best practice. i've already been researching the topic for a while and am confident enough about the 250mg/ml enanthates but I got tren ace shipped by mistake instead of E, so looking for a higher concentration tren ace recipe.
I have read varying posts/threads, some people recommend not to go over even 100mg/ml other say 200mg/ml can be done with EO and or guaiacol easily.
Im not trying to be an asshole, just looking for some advice on this as there is not too much about it to be found or the info is quite conflicting.
Mrbigz - seen a fair number of posts from you and you look like you know your stuff really well. Would appreciate your view on a tren A 150-200mg/ml recipe highly.
 
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