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guardianactual
05-16-2014, 11:35 PM
My IGF 1 should be in tomorrow! I may start then, but more than likely will start Monday. My goal is added some size to trap chest n tris! Now, I also hope to trim up as it's gonna be summer shortly. My question is how should I eat to achieve this goal?

I have done 3 AAS cycles 2 PH cycles. 3 cycles of Ostarine,1 LGD 4033 cycle, 8 weeks of hGH & 8 weeks of GH peptides I'm 26yo, 5'5 175 @ 12.5-13% BF I just started bodybuilding, by that I mean I've lifted for years... And powerlifted since May 31 2010... My goal was strength & to stay in weight class @ 165... but competition was low so I bulked to 181 & hell I loved the way it looked so I wanna compete in BB & get that shredded look.

I plan to run MC IGF 1 @ 50mcg split bilateral trics chest traps 2x a week for those groups. the extra application will go bis I guess? I plan on eventually doing 100mcg but I'll work up 2 it. I will bridge into my AAS cycle of Var/test/masteron.

Presser
05-17-2014, 05:24 AM
sounds like a good plan bro, I'm sure you'll enjoy it

guardianactual
05-17-2014, 06:13 AM
Cannot wait!!!! Let's see it solo then w/ aas!

goodness
05-17-2014, 06:23 AM
Carb Cycling works for me but everyone's different.

DefMetalLifter
05-17-2014, 11:51 AM
I have been applying to my mid abs lately. Wow they are starting to pop! I find it is best to rotate application sites a bit. Enjoy your IGF1 brotha!

guardianactual
05-17-2014, 01:02 PM
How much AA is in this 1ml? I'm assuming this is 100mcg per?

Millennial Monster
05-17-2014, 01:07 PM
No it's 1mg of IGF G. Don't make that mistake. Use the small lines. That's why people think it's so expensive. Theres 10 times 100mcg in that little 1ml of liquid.

guardianactual
05-17-2014, 01:10 PM
No, I get that LMAO I mean it's already reconned... how much AA is in the 1,000mcg?

Millennial Monster
05-17-2014, 01:16 PM
1ml so every line is 10 mcg

guardianactual
05-17-2014, 01:17 PM
Then 5iu is 50mcg got it. I thought so. Thanks bro!

guardianactual
05-19-2014, 06:37 PM
1st IGF1 applications to triceps and damn it has been like 10 min I swear I feel pumped placebo maybe the w/o will tell... I know w/ GHRP-2 I felt it EVERYTIME w/in 10 mins mainly hunger & a headrush no pumps no fullness so far so good w/ IGF1 time to hit dem tris!

guardianactual
05-19-2014, 11:25 PM
So in the attempt to increase my triceps I started IGF1 I was told pumps were good & I EXPECTED that.... What I saw 1st day was opposite the pumps were AMAZING , better than expect seriously... The fact that I had pumps in my chest while solely training Back & tris nice! Tri's are concrete &atm... Like on AAS. I'm a vascular guy, but I saw even more vein today...I got more reps w/ Tri's but I normally end my W/O with em today I started it w/ them so that maybe the reason. A ll in all I look forward to chest day! Also I'm doing 25mcg bi lat.

guardianactual
05-20-2014, 05:06 PM
Chest day! MC IGF1 50mcg total then tear it up! Cannot wait!

The Dude
05-20-2014, 05:41 PM
I can be WAY more lenient with my carb intake when on IGF, so you'll have to play that by ear. Even cycling my carbs and going hungry sometimes I still don't harden up like I do when on IGF. I've got some on the way and I seriously can't wait.

guardianactual
05-20-2014, 05:51 PM
Dude does IGF1 make u hungry bc I seem to get hungry...

The Dude
05-20-2014, 09:30 PM
Dude does IGF1 make u hungry bc I seem to get hungry...

I don't think so, but I only use it 30 minutes pre workout

guardianactual
05-21-2014, 12:01 AM
Had a terrible w/o I blame the IGF1... It made me WICKED vascular & I stared at my new veins in the mirror too much @ the start LMAO Great pump on my chest! No BW to lighten the AA yeah it stings... Feels like heartburn inside my skin. Vascularity WAS CRAZY! after I got over it my wofkout was great... I still feel the fullness... n the AA sting!

bigdaddyo1617
05-21-2014, 01:32 AM
Good shit

guardianactual
05-21-2014, 06:20 AM
Guy @ the gym is a competing BB... Him n I were discussing AAS... N I brought up IGF1... he wants to know how I like it... It's too early to see gains or anything concrete but pumps r good vascularityis at a whole other level! He told me his stage coach told him to run it 20mcg bilat post w/o I've been doing pre w/o hell I'll experiment in time but I was surprised that coaches tell their clients to use IGF1.. IK they talk AAS but IGF1. This shows me that IGF1 is effective... Ok I knew this from MC logs but further backs it up! I cannot wait till week 2 I'll weigh myself and do measurements tomorrow as I have logged my weight since I started GH in November (I ran it 2 months) so I can compare IGF1 to GH and other Peptides & SARMs.

guardianactual
05-21-2014, 07:29 PM
Late training bout to apply 2 the biceps n go.

guardianactual
05-22-2014, 11:17 PM
Bicep day went well... vascularity is unbelievable! My traing partner said my triceps grew! He hasnt lifted w/ me since last week pre MC IGF1 :) I measured the are about 0.25" bigger & fuller like on cycle I assume it's macro shutting effects as it's like slin. Also I said I started @ 50mcg yes I did but I forgot I'm doing bilateral so LMAO I'm @ 100mcg. Today I did traps... they feel pumped well after the w/o the trics do too tho... My biceps actually hurt today doing rows from yesterday's training but I forged on. CANNOT WAIT tkll week 2! Or w/e it fully kicks in & I see fat loss!

Presser
05-24-2014, 05:37 AM
yeah just wait for about 2 more weeks, everything should be different looking!

guardianactual
05-24-2014, 05:53 AM
So far I have lost 5 lbs I think it was all water weight bc I've been sweating a ton & not drinking enough! Oh I can't wait... I will be out tho w/in 20 days... I applied to abs yesterday 50mcg total lowered it 4 cardio & lower carb day . Today chest again 100mcg!

guardianactual
05-24-2014, 02:03 PM
My gym membership's up on the 31st.. They make a huge song n dance to renew but it's cheap n has a lot to offer... It'll take 2-3 weeks to get a reply! >:( I need to find someway to train meanwhile.... There's a small... n I mean SMALL gym a few miles from me that is free 4 a week (Least they can do.) N I can use my buddies guest passes a lil but shit really screws me... I turned in the form I wish I did it sooner! 50mcg IGF1 bilaterally applied to chest time to lift n enjoy my memorial day weekend! Y'all do the same! Cook outs n all that minus beer bc I'm preping for a C17 jumped cycles.

guardianactual
05-25-2014, 07:45 PM
The IGF1 must be working to a higher degree... I applied it to my chest yesterday and while I waited on my training partner to get ready! I noticed a full filling in my chest traps & arms... Very much like when I'm on test that increase in blood, tho I assume it was a food pump... The insulin like property of IGF1. Glycogen maybe either way it felt good n my training partner is convinced my bis & trics got bigger... According to measurements I went from 16" to 16.25" I can't measure my chest bc the tape only goes up to 25" Really need a new one... n a camera!

bigdaddyo1617
05-25-2014, 08:01 PM
My gym membership's up on the 31st.. They make a huge song n dance to renew but it's cheap n has a lot to offer... It'll take 2-3 weeks to get a reply! >:( I need to find someway to train meanwhile.... There's a small... n I mean SMALL gym a few miles from me that is free 4 a week (Least they can do.) N I can use my buddies guest passes a lil but shit really screws me... I turned in the form I wish I did it sooner! 50mcg IGF1 bilaterally applied to chest time to lift n enjoy my memorial day weekend! Y'all do the same! Cook outs n all that minus beer bc I'm preping for a C17 jumped cycles.

why cant they just renew it i dont understand

guardianactual
05-25-2014, 08:05 PM
It's alil pricey & I'm unemployed so I get a discount, but it has to be approved.

akn
05-25-2014, 09:00 PM
pics pics pics lol

Presser
05-26-2014, 05:15 AM
It's alil pricey & I'm unemployed so I get a discount, but it has to be approved.

yeah that does suck! it took me about an hour and a half to sign up to my gym, but i can renew easily every year thankfully, but i had to get the tour, the speech on trainers, doctors and nurses being available to me every month, i must have said no thank you 50 fucking times, but its one big sales pitch

guardianactual
05-26-2014, 05:32 AM
LMAO I hate that... Yesterday I applied 50mcg to my abs today it's 50mcg bilaterally to triceps.

Presser
05-26-2014, 05:41 AM
for someone unemployed you sure are up early lol,

guardianactual
05-26-2014, 05:43 AM
LMAO 6am is bedtime 4 me... I worked 3rd shift I'm accustomed to it.

Presser
05-26-2014, 05:44 AM
LMAO 6am is bedtime 4 me... I worked 3rd shift I'm accustomed to it.


geeeesh! thats crazy hours!

guardianactual
05-26-2014, 05:46 AM
The job I'm looking @ is 6am-2pm so I'm trying to switch my schedule to 9pm-5am so far ummm no luck... I need a sleep aid or something!

guardianactual
05-26-2014, 10:04 PM
Applied to abs @ 50mcg cardio day gyms closed.

CR6
05-26-2014, 11:37 PM
Thanks to all the great input regarding this product, I'm looking forward to picking up some MC IGF myself in a few weeks. (once my bonus comes through at work) Can't wait to try it! :thumbup:

akn
05-27-2014, 12:20 AM
that bonus would be well spent then

guardianactual
05-27-2014, 12:53 AM
Indeed, I did nothing today LMAO but 50mcg & still I felt a pump!

guardianactual
05-27-2014, 02:07 PM
One of the guys at my gym was telling me his stage coach told him to get on IGF1.... & I told him I was on it & he asked me a ton of questions LMAO. It's been a week and I am seeing fat loss skin tighting & a fuller pumped feeling even when I'm not @ the gym. I also notice my biceps look different at 1st I thought they looked smaller bc they r normally bulky but measurements say they r still about 0.25" bigger than from the start... def more shaped/toned. Uggghhh I have till the 31st till I'm outta a membership.... IDK how long it'll take to be reapproved... 'roid rage' for me is not training for longer than 3 days! LMAO & I'm not on roids!

guardianactual
05-27-2014, 09:43 PM
Wish I had a camera! Ugh Triceps are def bigger or at least fuller & appear bigger. I felt pumped ALL weekend! I did 50mcg bilateral triceps and My entire body was pumped! I'll compare it to Ostarine & Agamite sulfate combo only stronger glycogen storage hey it's insulin-like for sure! I am eating a bunch of carb high GI pre & post w/o no diet yet :/ BUT fat loss is there... my upper abs are better n my serratas (spelling ?) r getting cut up... Hopefull soon I'll look like Franco! I need more MC IGF1 for my cycle :D

guardianactual
05-27-2014, 10:45 PM
"IGF-1 takes up the same receptor site on your cells as insulin. It could possibly make you insulin resistant while on IGF-1. Then you might actually need the insulin. Growth Hormone can have the same effect. Growth Hormone in coverted to IGF-1 in the liver." Presser u have used humilin r right?

guardianactual
05-28-2014, 06:15 PM
Biceps 50mcg each. I wanna address one thing on IGF1 LR3. Some say bilaterally applications are unneeded as IGF1 is systematic and travels through the body. Studies & numerous logs show IGF1 LR3 has localised anabolic effects. In other words where you apply it will grow.

Also, the intestinal growth seen in top tier IFBB is said to be IGF1 use.... I think those w/ more experience with MC IGF1 will discredit the intestinal growth. I know guys who use GH & Insulin who don't have intestinal growth (HGH increases IGF1) So what's the cause? My true belief is HUGE amounts of anabolis, not just AAS, which is 2-10g a WEEK in some IFBB pros. But Insulin @ 15IUs 2-3 times a a day! Plus Huge GH use 25IUS from what I read. & IGF1 who knows what dose... coupled w/ enourmous caloric intake.

So, IMHO, it's excess that, well leads to excess. It is not IGF1. Just been seeing couch potatoes who took HS science & think they are Sheldon Cooper or Einstein... And run of at the mouth like they know something. Yes there is a big amount of IGF1 receptors in the intestine, but I have seen no intestinal growth & I have applied it directly to my abs. Think tho this... IFBB are WAY beyond genetic potential... Phil Heath's like 5'8 weighs 275 @ 4% bf.... Arnold was 6'1 225 @ 5% They also used GH back in the old days. Cadavor shit but GH nevertheless. EXCESS EXCESS EXCESS

Presser
05-28-2014, 07:15 PM
"IGF-1 takes up the same receptor site on your cells as insulin. It could possibly make you insulin resistant while on IGF-1. Then you might actually need the insulin. Growth Hormone can have the same effect. Growth Hormone in coverted to IGF-1 in the liver." Presser u have used humilin r right?

yes i used humalin r , and yes igf can make u insulin resistant , I've not heard or read of anyone turning into a diabetic, but i know the possibility is there like with any substance you weigh the pros and cons and make an educated decision you can live with

HackTwat
05-28-2014, 08:08 PM
one of the guys at my gym was telling me his stage coach told him to get on igf1.... & i told him i was on it & he asked me a ton of questions lmao. It's been a week and i am seeing fat loss skin tighting & a fuller pumped feeling even when i'm not @ the gym. I also notice my biceps look different at 1st i thought they looked smaller bc they r normally bulky but measurements say they r still about 0.25" bigger than from the start... Def more shaped/toned. Uggghhh i have till the 31st till i'm outta a membership.... Idk how long it'll take to be reapproved... 'roid rage' for me is not training for longer than 3 days! Lmao & i'm not on roids!

i know its gonna suck if your out of a gym for a week or so brother, but you just have to make your body work for you without the typical weights and equipment. Body weight exercises brutha. High ass rep ranges like 10 sets of 30-50 squats to the floor, walking lunges with milk jugs. Push ups and chair dips. Pull ups brother!!! Improvise for a week or 2. Intensity and reps and that igf will respond.... ;)

guardianactual
05-28-2014, 09:12 PM
No worries on diabetes... If I lead anyone to think it... Test also causes resistance & clen LMAO. I just wanna shot some slin. Austin ugh IK, I maybe able to train elsewhere for 3 days I hope either that or pay a bit more $ this month n go 2 a no contract gym. Sigh, I hope I don't have to stoop to callin' up the 1 chick n going to planet fitness w/ her LMAO I'll get kicked out if I do!

HackTwat
05-28-2014, 10:04 PM
No worries on diabetes... If I lead anyone to think it... Test also causes resistance & clen LMAO. I just wanna shot some slin. Austin ugh IK, I maybe able to train elsewhere for 3 days I hope either that or pay a bit more $ this month n go 2 a no contract gym. Sigh, I hope I don't have to stoop to callin' up the 1 chick n going to planet fitness w/ her LMAO I'll get kicked out if I do!

If you do get kicked out, it'll be a nice subject for a general converstion thread. LMAO!!!!

akn
05-28-2014, 10:08 PM
join a social rugby team lmao

guardianactual
05-29-2014, 04:19 AM
Crap 4got to say how it went. Biceps felt great & looked like I'm on EQ of something much much more vascular & I swear unless I'm insane my triceps grew! I'm up 2 lbs my control is upon waking up after peeing LMAO weigh in. Allergies are brutal! I'm not adding fat that is clear to me the weight is either glycogen or muscle... Pumps are 24/7 well that full feeling you get when on anabolics... during w/o they r 1.5x stronger than normal... not AAS like but very pleasant def better than NO boosters LMAO or SARMs... Maybe a combo of then. Very nice anabolic.

guardianactual
05-29-2014, 11:18 PM
Traps look THICK! My shoulders both of them hurt like hell.... Felt like shin splints only in my delts WTF! Shortened my lifting experience reluctantly... but my traps tho! Beast.

guardianactual
05-30-2014, 11:35 PM
WOW! That's all I can say ATM...... Y'all know that pump you get when ur training arms....... Have it... I trained arms yesterday... Today Chest. 50mcg Left pec 100mcg Right pec measured it & was like eh my rights smaller eh fuck it, let's UTD. Anyway wow pumped like a beast 150mcg did not have any ill effect on me... The 100mcg stung a tad more than the 50mcg for sure tho. Much stronger pump... Tomorrow off day 50mcg total I lower for off days to conserve it. Still waiting on my renewal..........

guardianactual
05-31-2014, 07:41 PM
150mcg was fun. 50mcg today & a cheatmeal w/ rest. still feel full.

guardianactual
06-02-2014, 04:45 PM
Popped the top on my 2nd bottle of IGF1 yesterday... & I have four more on it's way. Yeah, I may never take a break from it LMAO, ok I will but not till I start my AAS... I'll take 4 weeks off jump on Trest/DTA/M-sten do 4 weeks w/o IGF1 then 8 weeks w/ IGF1. Anyway, I plan on going to the gym w/ a buddy, hopefully he shows up bc ATM I'm gymless. :( Either way tho 50mcg per tricep & some form of w/o.

HackTwat
06-02-2014, 09:11 PM
I love the 150-160mcg range!! Feels awesome!! Applied 80mcg to each inner/upper pec today myself.... ;)

eswol
06-02-2014, 09:27 PM
200 mcgs pre workout is awesome, especially on shoulder day, 50 per trap and 50 per delt......yo gaurdian post some pics, I know you said no camera but pretty sure all cell phone have cameras these days unless you're rocking the old school huge block white phone with antenna.......

guardianactual
06-02-2014, 10:14 PM
LMAO, I the cameras a 1.3mp POS LMAO, my toaster has better picture capabilities. Also, I don't have it internet ready... IDK if I can USB it to my laptop. My arms were blown up today shit! If I'm not sore tomorrow IGF1 will prove it's recovery abilities to me!

guardianactual
06-05-2014, 08:45 PM
No soreness recovery is great! The 3rd I applied 50mcg to each delt... the 4th I applied 50mcg to each delt + 50mcg to each trap 200mcg is impressive, but other than fullness & a great pump......... I noticed significantly less delt pain when training! Normally my delts feel like a shin splint... Scale from 1-10 pain wise on average 7.5 w/ IGF1 about a 5 definitively had less pain kinda numbed a bit. It's still there & stil needs medical attention but it was less!!!!! Sadly I'm unable to lift till next week tho. :( I guess I'll have time to get some stuff done that I haven't really finished still blows tho.

guardianactual
06-06-2014, 08:46 PM
Gym membership is back!!! But they r closed till Monday :(

HackTwat
06-06-2014, 09:07 PM
I too notice less pain when lifting after applying IGF.... hmmmmmmm

guardianactual
06-06-2014, 10:51 PM
HGH is said to be greater w/ thyroid hormones... I wonder if IGF1 is the same :) just alil T4 @ 250mcg OR T3 @ 25mcg just to lean up alil.

Presser
06-07-2014, 05:22 AM
Gym membership is back!!! But they r closed till Monday :(

closed why??

guardianactual
06-08-2014, 12:58 AM
I have no clue they were installing tinted windows. Guess there was sun in ppl's eyes IDK. Legit installing windows but IDK the reason.

2 days off IGF1. Why? well I am just taking the weekend off to conserve it till I get more here soon. I want my training days to be epic :) I'm in the process of getting TNE! I hope I'm able to add it to the weirdest cycle I've done.

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I have no clue they were installing tinted windows. Guess there was sun in ppl's eyes IDK. Legit installing windows but IDK the reason.

2 days off IGF1. Why? well I am just taking the weekend off to conserve it till I get more here soon. I want my training days to be epic :) I'm in the process of getting TNE! I hope I'm able to add it to the weirdest cycle I've done.

guardianactual
06-09-2014, 04:49 AM
So I'm hopefully gonna be able to buy my AAS... Sigh I'm like a kid in a candy shop my source has new things! Boldenone Undecylenate, Methandriol Dipropionate 200mg blend Metribolone 10mg/ml isn't 10mg per ml high as fuck???? Trenbolone Enanthate, Methandriol Dipropionate, Testosterone Enanthate 100/100/150 blend. HALOTESTIN! I'm kinda obsessed w/ this drug! Dimethylnandrolone NovoRapid FlexPen I want it ALL! LMAO. But I won't go crazy ATM Tren/Test/TNE r in the cart... NovoRapid FlexPen will be too I think.

akn
06-09-2014, 04:53 AM
Tren ace ???? first tren run , tren ace would be a better choice plus its fast acting soo

MuscledMarine
06-09-2014, 05:12 AM
hey guard, how much size did you gain off your GH in those 8 weeks? you usually supposed to run it longer to see results like 4 mo. Just curious.

guardianactual
06-09-2014, 05:58 PM
hard to tell i ran it pct w osta. gained water then ran out started peptides. gained more water from ghrp2 lost 2% but I ran osta then arimistane then katanadrol then osta Only 2 weeks was I solo on GH and it was after PCT. I maintained size but I think 4-6 month GH is the prime goal. Best way IMO is 3 months of GH then add Test & roll 3 more. If you add IGF1 as a ''kickstart'' to GH perfect. I haven't done it but this time around I will if I can get GH again

guardianactual
06-11-2014, 04:16 AM
100mcg each pec then boom. I really like this I noticed leaning almost like my fats being ate away or burned... Ahhh like sculpted from granite bc my muscle are dense! Now 1 huge issue... My shoulder is still giving me problems I can feel the vibration of nerves in it when pressures applied & my strength suffers hugely. 225 for 15 reps as a drop set to 315 now I'm @ 225 for 5 @ best... Now before cycle I was @ 225 for 12.... Not as a drop set (I'm no endurance athlete) Max prior to AAS 305 during 340 now 275 perhaps? Not good! BC of this set back I am postponing my summer cycle :( reluctantly... But I have to train like I mean it or what good are AAS? I'm 26 & train like 86.... I will continue IGF1 tillunless surgery is required. Also 4 shits n giggles I'll get blood s for IGF1 levels. Now I need a medical card ASAP!

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100mcg each pec then boom. I really like this I noticed leaning almost like my fats being ate away or burned... Ahhh like sculpted from granite bc my muscle are dense! Now 1 huge issue... My shoulder is still giving me problems I can feel the vibration of nerves in it when pressures applied & my strength suffers hugely. 225 for 15 reps as a drop set to 315 now I'm @ 225 for 5 @ best... Now before cycle I was @ 225 for 12.... Not as a drop set (I'm no endurance athlete) Max prior to AAS 305 during 340 now 275 perhaps? Not good! BC of this set back I am postponing my summer cycle :( reluctantly... But I have to train like I mean it or what good are AAS? I'm 26 & train like 86.... I will continue IGF1 unless surgery is required. Also 4 shits n giggles I'll get blood s for IGF1 levels. Now I need a medical card ASAP!

guardianactual
06-15-2014, 08:21 AM
My IGF1 is no longer in the fridge it's in my box under my bed w/ my AAS... This batch is either stronger, the room temperature makes it stronger or I'm responding better bc todays pump was awesome n I was just ate the movies no lifting! 100mcg felt like 1000 LMAO I've done up to 200mcg last vial but this stuff just got better! Presser wtf is up w/ this batch?!? I love it can't wait till Monday!

guardianactual
06-17-2014, 05:54 AM
So I switched o Post W/O applications to see how it goes. Fullness after w/o is still there & I'm starting to see the transformation Presser spoke of. My Traps are more defined as are my arms. I can say I've never used Tren, but I see the visual transformation from IGF1 that tren users speak of ALBEIT to a smaller degree!My reason for saying it's tren like is bc I'm LEAN & S E P E R A T E D!!! Think of this AAS increase the size of muscles HGH & IGF1 increase the amount of muscle cells right? So when I add AAS to my IGF1 I expect huge transformation! More muscle cells to grow from IGF1. & the size of muscle cells from AAS! Perfect relationship, Like adding NOS to ur race car. I want to add HGH too but $$$ is well an object LMAO I'll except donates tho :) LMAO kidding, I'll find a way right now I need ahealth insurance.

guardianactual
06-18-2014, 03:58 AM
I have my b4 pics but no 'now' pics If n when I get em I'll post em. unfortunately I only could find my back double biceps IDK where the others are I emailed the b4 I got rid of my phone tho, my email consist of supplement companies, AAS companies,, PH companies, & primarily MC likes thanks & updates LMAO