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akn
08-10-2014, 05:57 AM
i've heard that EQ actually increases tendon strength and can be stacked with test to sort of counter-act the test from impairing the tendons. was planning on including it in my next cycle when winter gets herehttps://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (https://thinksteroids.com/community/#) , wanted to try a lower dose of test (500mg of Enanthate), 600mg of deca/ and a low dose of EQ to keep the tendons strong. the deca is awesome for collagen synthesis and helps with joint pain which is crucial for powerlifting ---- i found an article in my research file ..

While injecting test increases proteinhttps://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (https://thinksteroids.com/community/#) synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, equipoise, anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid (http://cem-meso.com/research-chemicals/serms/clomi-70ml-35mg-ml.html?utm_source=steroid&utm_medium=keyword%2Bhacks&utm_term=clomid&utm_campaign=steroid%2Bkeyword%20hacks) use. Herehttps://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (https://thinksteroids.com/community/#) they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problemhttps://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (https://thinksteroids.com/community/#).

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long termhttps://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (https://thinksteroids.com/community/#) studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS --

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EMW14
08-10-2014, 07:14 AM
This is extremely useful info. Thanks for posting this.

HackTwat
08-10-2014, 08:37 AM
Awesome post Brother!!!

JEFF!
08-12-2014, 03:51 PM
Good info. Am I to understand that unless the doses of one of the above compounds is higher than the test you will still experience tendon weakness?

Most of the guys I know say joints feel better on deca even if they're using more test?

dorian123
08-12-2014, 05:52 PM
Good info. Am I to understand that unless the doses of one of the above compounds is higher than the test you will still experience tendon weakness?

Most of the guys I know say joints feel better on deca even if they're using more test?

no if test reduces by 50% and deca increases by 270% you should be Ok with lower dosage...whatever test you are running the deca can be run 1/5 of that

JEFF!
08-12-2014, 11:18 PM
no if test reduces by 50% and deca increases by 270% you should be Ok with lower dosage...whatever test you are running the deca can be run 1/5 of that

Thanks, that occurred to me after I made the post. I had no idea test could weaken joints, thought it was just that the joints could not keep up with the strength gains. I may have to incorporate one of the above in the cycle purely to prevent joint issues. My joints are already fuct.

Presser
08-17-2014, 06:13 PM
Thanks, that occurred to me after I made the post. I had no idea test could weaken joints, thought it was just that the joints could not keep up with the strength gains. I may have to incorporate one of the above in the cycle purely to prevent joint issues. My joints are already fuct.

you and me both brutha