Beginner female performance enhancing cycle

It happens or has happened to all of us. You meet a new girl and she tells you she wants to "tone up". All the normal hang ups and misconceptions are in play. Let's say you talk her into doing injections or pills. What would you pitch to her?
I'd start out super basic. I'd convince her to come with me for 4 weeks to get a feel for it and focus on squats, lunges, upright rows... fun stuff. I'd get her to write down her weights. This is a huge part since it gives them something to strive to beat. This is HUGE at the beginning. After 4 weeks I'd do 10mg of Anavar. The strength gains will be super motivating. Two weeks into that I'd add ECA and get them hooked on the new energy. From there I'd play it by ear. Focus on the weights and cardio so that they get focused on the new strength and hardness. At that point I'd see how they feel about adding in the IGF. Women always have a hard time building side delts and after legs I think thats what they focus on most. I'd do 40mcg split bilaterally daily. From there you should be seeing great strength gains for quite a while and once they learn to love their new shape it's easier to stick with it since they don't want to lose it. I normally don't suggest AAS so early, but girls don't work like guys do. They need to fall head over heals into it and when they do they normally stay that way. Guys seem to always have something come up once they put on a few pounds of bloat... in that respect women's persistence really gives them an edge.
I'm curious what would you guys suggest?

i would pitch anavar, and eca , and maybe some winstrol lol

My wife did 3 years of Anavar a small does of whinny before I moved her to test and primo and a little eq ever now and then

If you KNOW it's real I'd say anavar. I've got my girl on ECA now

Id just be happy to move mine off doughnuts and cola

I would go with winny, clen and var.

Boomer said:

Id just be happy to move mine off doughnuts and cola

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im guessing she doesn't read this forum lol

Var makes my wife super horny but yea Dude maybe stretch the training a few more weeks before the var but i wouldnt blame anyone having their women on Var without training that shit could save relationships

my personal experience with my first cycle (recent--ended 8 weeks ago) with Primo: I had good results and very few sides. I was doing a steady 50 mg a week. Only negative sides were deepening of my voice (its back to normal now) like an adolescent boy (cracking, sounding funny) and a few unwanted hairs sprouting that i had to pluck about every 3 days or so (they stopped growing back now). It was a positive experience in the respect that i managed to gain mass and muscle which has been incredibly hard for me to do despite working hard in the gym for a while and eating what i thought was enough (it wasn't. I eat super clean so it's hard to get in calories.). Disappointments: immediatley after the cycle ended I went to Belize for 3 weeks to get married and set my new vacation house up. Hardly worked out (there really isn't a good gym in my area) and i definitely did no eat enough. I lost the 7 lbs I worked so hard for but I can tell I retained some muscle. I want to gain most of the weight back naturally before I begin a cycle again. I recommend Primo as an easy intro to the world of AAS for women. Oh, and i was horny as a dog too which was GREAT but I am horny all the time anyways so my poor husband was worn out! LOL!!!

ironhardempress said:

my personal experience with my first cycle (recent--ended 8 weeks ago) with Primo: I had good results and very few sides. I was doing a steady 50 mg a week. Only negative sides were deepening of my voice (its back to normal now) like an adolescent boy (cracking, sounding funny) and a few unwanted hairs sprouting that i had to pluck about every 3 days or so (they stopped growing back now). It was a positive experience in the respect that i managed to gain mass and muscle which has been incredibly hard for me to do despite working hard in the gym for a while and eating what i thought was enough (it wasn't. I eat super clean so it's hard to get in calories.). Disappointments: immediatley after the cycle ended I went to Belize for 3 weeks to get married and set my new vacation house up. Hardly worked out (there really isn't a good gym in my area) and i definitely did no eat enough. I lost the 7 lbs I worked so hard for but I can tell I retained some muscle. I want to gain most of the weight back naturally before I begin a cycle again. I recommend Primo as an easy intro to the world of AAS for women. Oh, and i was horny as a dog too which was GREAT but I am horny all the time anyways so my poor husband was worn out! LOL!!!

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primo has been on the maybe list of hormones for my wife to run and now just moved to the top

Mountain Man is that your wife in your avatar? My girlfriend is 4 weeks into a cycle of PCT-shops Anavar at 20mgs a day. Shes a competitive powerlifter, so she has some experience behind her but this is her first cycle. Shes literally hitting new pr's every time she steps in the gym. It blows my mind how little females have to take to get tremendous results.

This video was posted yesterday. The chick in the video Gracie V covers her steroid usage as a competitive powerlifter. That's a strong girl.
This is actually a pretty good video. I sense that shes not the most knowledgeable about aas (and what I mean by that is she probably not like us sitting on a forum for steroids all day long learning everything there is to ever know about them), but nonetheless still honestly talks about the experiences she has with them and what shes taken and what side effects she got from what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rPEHfe63Q

Presser said:

im guessing she doesn't read this forum lol

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I probably would have balls left if she read this forum...thisnis my *study* forum part of my ongoing PT learning and training...she also thinks i only use *creatine*

hi i am startin an only var cycle from pct shops ( i am a girl) in order to lose bodyfat and keep my year gains.. so please tell me your girlfriends experiance with those var.. did she lose weight?

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Mountain Man is that your wife in your avatar? My girlfriend is 4 weeks into a cycle of PCT-shops Anavar at 20mgs a day. Shes a competitive powerlifter, so she has some experience behind her but this is her first cycle. Shes literally hitting new pr's every time she steps in the gym. It blows my mind how little females have to take to get tremendous results.

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hi i am startin an only var cycle from pct shops ( i am a girl) in order to lose bodyfat and keep my year gains.. so please tell me your girlfriends experiance with those var.. did she lose weight?​

raf2899 said:

hi i am startin an only var cycle from pct shops ( i am a girl) in order to lose bodyfat and keep my year gains.. so please tell me your girlfriends experiance with those var.. did she lose weight?

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hi i am startin an only var cycle from pct shops ( i am a girl) in order to lose bodyfat and keep my year gains.. so please tell me your girlfriends experiance with those var.. did she lose weight?​

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Hi there, she has an amazing experience with it. She ended up cutting it a little short at only 6 weeks. Reasoning being is we are going to be doing another powerlifing meet in about 12 weeks, so we wanted to give her the next six weeks off of it, so she could run it leading up to the next meet.

We've been competing together for a few years now. I'm pretty experienced with anabolics, but it was her first cycle. It was absolutely amazing to see her transform in pretty much just a matter of weeks. Her goals are most likely different then yours, unless your a powerlifter. She just wanted to drop a few lbs to fall down into the next weightclass, while losing a little bit of fat and shredding up a bit, but the main goal is obviously to put up heavy ass weights.

For the first four weeks the changes in her physique were only slight, but the increase in strength has been absolutely tremendous. Almost mind blowing if you will, she was already a very strong girl, and she just now stepped up into the realm of potentially setting national records. They will come regardless because shes a beast so either way its just a matter of time, but shes almost there.

The fifth and sixth week is when I really started to notice her looking jacked as fuck, and honestly that's not even really what she trains for, its just a byproduct of the anavar being so damn awesome. It's ashame that we're cutting the cycle short because it's just now getting good, but it's okay because in another 6 or 7 weeks she'll start it up again leading up to the next meet.

I have no doubt that if your goal is to trim up and lose some bodyfat then PCT Shops Anavar will help get you there.

On another note, she's experienced almost no side effects whatsoever even at 20mg's a day. Haven't noticed any acne, her skin looks fine. The only thing that I noticed personally is her clit basically being a little more swollen then usual. She didn't say anything about it so It must not be bothering her but I could tell. It will most likely go back down after she stops. I have a few female friends in the powerlifting world and they all says this normal and as long as you don't run it too long it will usually go back down to normal. I know a few girls that run this stuff very long term, much longer then anyone on her would recommend, it's just a matter of risk to reward at that point.

I'd start off with just 2.5 to 5mg's a day and slowly work your way up as you see fit. Basically my chick did 5mg's the first week, 10 the second, 15th the third, 20 the fourth leading up to a meet, and then she slowly tapered back down the last two weeks until she comes off. I wouldn't really recommend what she did as shes a competitor, if you're just trying to lose some fat you shouldn't need more then 5-10mg's tops.

Boomer said:

Id just be happy to move mine off doughnuts and cola

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And off the couch, lol. If you figure out how to do that let me know. LOL, no really.