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cloudstrife1218
05-10-2016, 08:15 AM
I think we can all agree that Squats rule. Long gone are the days when we thought Squats were bad for our knees or that lifting heavy weight would make us slow, lumbering and un-athletic. And good riddance, because we've discovered that Squats help us get stronger, jump higher and run faster.
Athletes used to ask, "Are Squats bad for my knees?" Now, I often hear athletes pose the question, "Which are better, Front Squats or Back Squats?" The answer, not surprisingly, is "it depends."
When evaluating the relative risks and benefits of Front Squats vs. Back Squats, you have to take into account the athlete's sport, strengths, weaknesses and goals. Each lift has pros and cons. To determine which is best for you, keep reading.

Front Squat vs. Back SquatHow to SquatWe could dedicate thousands of words and hours of video to teaching the Squat, and we already have, so check out the videos above to get the low-down on getting down low.
Mobility RequirementsMost importantly, an athlete's mobility will determine which lift is better suited to him or her. If you can safely perform one lift and not the other, the choice is clear. Before loading up the bar, a qualified coach should screen the athlete to determine if he or she has the proper mobility at the shoulder, upper and lower back, hips, knees and ankles.
Front Squats requires significantly more mobility than Back Squats. You need excellent thoracic spine (upper back) mobility to keep your chest up, outstanding wrist flexibility and shoulder mobility to rack the bar, superb hip and groin mobility to squat low with your knees in line with your toes, and fantastic ankle mobility to keep your lower back from rounding.
Very few athletes move well enough to execute a textbook Front Squat from the get-go. That's a blessing and a curse. The positive: it forces you to improve your mobility and flexibility, which may prevent injury in the long run. The negative: you won't be able to lift as heavy right off the bat, which will delay strength gains.
Back Squats require less mobility in the shoulders, hips and ankles, so you can jump into them sooner. That's great for strength gains, but be careful–don't sweep your poor mobility under the rug at the expense of lifting heavier weight. That's a recipe for injury.


Start with the exercise you can perform with better form. If you've got the mobility of the Tin Man and you're not ready for either exercise, start with a simpler variation, like a Goblet Squat.

Muscles TrainedFront Squats and Back Squats work different muscles in different ways because the placement of the bar causes slight changes in motion of the spine, hips, knees and ankles.
Quite simply, Front Squats zone in on the quads and upper back, while Back Squats focus more on the hips, glutes and lower back. Both lifts recruit all these muscles together, but the emphasis shifts from one lift to the other.
Muscle groups might matter to bodybuilders, but athletes should care more about movements, notmuscles. That's why getting bull strong in the Front Squat or Back Squat can ramp up your on-the-field performance.
The Battle for Athletic PerformanceNow for the real reason athletes lift weights: to get better at their sport. We know Squatting in general builds powerful muscles that increase speed, power and quickness. But which version of the Squat reigns supreme? Let's put them to the test:
Hip Extension: Squats build tremendous strength in the muscles that extend the hip, specifically the glutes and hamstrings. These muscles provide the horsepower for sprinting and jumping. Back Squats load up the hips more than Front Squats, because you can "sit back" into them more. So if you want more powerful hips, get the bar on your back. Winner: Back Squats
Jump Power: Studies show that improving squat strength is closely linked with improvements in vertical jump height. That's because if you can extend your hips with more force, you can propel yourself higher into the air. Studies show no clear difference in jump improvements between Back Squats and Front Squats. Winner: Tie
Sprint Speed: Studies also show that squatting more weight can lead to improvements in sprinting speed. Simply, the more force you can apply to the ground, the faster you can move. But just like jumping, both lifts work. Winner: Tie
Overall Strength: Back Squats let you lift more weight than Front Squats, period. Front Squats are limited by how much weight you can hold on the front of your shoulders. Back Squats let you support much heavier loads across your upper back. There's a reason why the world record in the Back Squat is over 1,000 pounds; it's better suited for massive weights. And with more weight comes greater potential for strength gains. Winner: Back Squats
Shoulder Health: Many athletes, especially overhead athletes like baseball, lacrosse and volleyball players, deal with cranky shoulders that can get irritated by Back Squats. Luckily, Front Squats avoid that pain by placing the shoulders and elbows in a safer position. If you're an overhead athlete, Front Squat with a clean grip or cross grip for greater safety. Winner: Front Squats
Knee Health: Controlling the movements of the knee is crucial for reducing injuries such as ACL and meniscus tears. Squats can help limit the likelihood of knee injuries by strengthening the muscles that stabilize the knee, specifically the vastus medialis oblique (i.e., your inner quad). Front Squats hit this muscle a bit harder than Back Squats, plus they teach you how to push your knees "out" to avoid the dreaded knock-kneed valgus collapse, which mimics the exact mechanism for an ACL tear. That said, sometimes the deep knee flexion of Front Squats can bug an athlete's knee, and Back Squats (particularly Box Squats or squatting with a wider stance) can avoid this nuisance by placing more load on the hips than the knees. Winner: Tie
Cleans and Snatches: The most glaring difference between Front Squats and Back Squats is the carryover to Olympic lifts, the Clean and the Snatch. Back Squats let you lift more weight, but the execution of the Front Squat closely mimics the motion of rising from the bottom position after catching a Clean or Snatch. Olympic lifts are widely respected for their ability to improve explosiveness, so if you want to get better at the Clean and Snatch, Front Squats work better. Winner: Front Squats
Best of Both WorldsAs you can see, when you break down Back Squat and Front Squat benefits, there's no clear winner. So why not do both?
Unless you're an overhead athlete or have a lower-body injury, there's no reason not to include Front Squats and Back Squats in a lifting program, especially if you're training your lower body twice a week. Here's how:
Day 1


A1. Front Squats – 4x6 with a weight you can lift 8 times
A2. Box Jumps – 4x5
B1. Glute/Ham Raises – 3x8-10
B2. Half-Kneeling Cable Chops – 3x10/side
C1. Farmer's Walks – 4x40 yds

Day 2


A1. Back Squats – 5x3 with a weight you can lift 5 times
A2. Lateral Jumps – 5x3/side
B1. Dumbbell Split Squats – 3x6-8/side
B2. Cable Pull-Throughs – 3x10-12
C1. Sled Sprints – 10x30 yds

References
Gullett, Jonathan C., et al. "A Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats in Healthy Trained Individuals." Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research 23.1 (2009): 284-92.
Hori, Naruhiro, et al. "Does Performance of Hang Power Clean Differentiate Performance of Jumping, Sprinting, and Changing of Direction?" Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research 22.2 (2008): 412-18.
McBride, Jeffrey M., et al. "Relationship Between Maximal Squat Strength and Five, Ten, and Forty Yard Sprint Times." Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research 23.6 (2009): 1633-636.
Wisloff, U. "Strong Correlation of Maximal Squat Strength with Sprint Performance and Vertical Jump Height in Elite Soccer Players." British Journal of Sports Medicine 38.3 (2004): 285-88.

Presser
05-10-2016, 08:18 AM
yes sir, squats rule! Especially for younger guys who need to build up their base! For older guys who squatted all their life, i think they can get away with other exercises to maintain all the muscle they attained from squatting, but if your new and young, your ass needs to know where the squat rack is

cloudstrife1218
05-10-2016, 08:38 AM
I can never decide between squats and deads so i do em both 8)

I got legs today. Gonna fukkin crush it

Presser
05-10-2016, 08:43 AM
i was never big into deadlifting other than when i played football, it was one of the major lifts we had to do, mostly Olympic lifts for football back in the day,

cloudstrife1218
05-10-2016, 08:45 AM
A good dead-lift will crush my body, but it doesn't leave me in as much pain as heavy squats, lol.

beachbody
05-11-2016, 01:47 PM
Sooner or later, squats will take a tole on your disks in your back. You can see what happened to Coleman. At 50 years old he is almost a cripple. With 5 discs replaced, 2 hip replacement surgeries and recently more back surgery. He is an extreme example, but I think it is safer to use leg press machines, and the Hammer Strength V-squat machine. Other companies like Body Master also make squat machines. I use the V-squat machine in my gym and it closely approximates the regular squat. Also takes the stress off your back with shoulder pads and a back pad.

dorian123
05-11-2016, 03:12 PM
that pretty much sums it up...Coleman was a freak though squatting stupid weight

at the same time Yates was a freak and quit squatting early in his career

trekrider215
05-11-2016, 04:09 PM
Front and back squat are two completely different lifts. Im a powerlifter so obviously i implent them both. Fromt squat is my top accessory to the back squat and actually deadlift. After finish my back squat routine i usually go into front squats for 3 or 4 sets of 6-8

PUMPED
05-11-2016, 10:11 PM
Front squats get my vote.