So I have had questions of this product and where to go to get the proper information. I have never taken this and not saying I am or one should take it , yet I just have questions about it. My person I know guarantees on this stuff yet I am not to sure, I mean I had a stroke in 2011 and have always been a member of my gym, so when it came time to do my re-hab I had 3 nurses come to my house every week and work on my mobility, speech and physical attributes. I finally told my doctor , and I was 190lbs, then and never had gotten lower than 270lbbs. So I told my doc I was going to finish my re-hab on my own. So went back to the gym got a trainer for a week and jumped right back into my routine of working out. At first it was really hard and discouraging , yet I stuck with it and worked out even harder than ever. Well in course of my development I started to see big gains and then the worst thing happened I had two mini strokes one after the other. Maybe I pushed to hard I don't know , but as soon as that happened my kidneys failed and there I was in the hospital again. My potassium got so high they would not let me leave due to the fact that I was about to have a heart attack. So finally got it all worked out and hit the gym , with my wife and kids begging me not to go ,but I had to do it. I was determined to work out and gain the size I once had and become the man I once was. So after two years I have gotten back to 270lbs and benching 475lbs and truly enjoying myself, even though my family insisted for me not to do it I feel great and if I say so I look like I did almost like when I was in my mid thirties. Now the friend of mine got to talking to me about HGH and I am not one to play around with such stuff, now I have done some of it in the past , not HGH though, but other stuff and it was just minor stuff here and there. But I am seriously kind of considering it and my buddy says it will put the youth back in my step! I don't know and I trust you guys here so please let me know honestly what the thoughts are, and if there are any positive ones I , if possible would ask for some kind of literature on it. I would have to learn all I could before I go head strong on doing something like this, so please be honest and as I said I am not telling anyone to do anything like this. So any feed back would be great , thanks guys
Iron Game
Veteran
Congratulations on what you have done. Very inspiring! I don't know enough about your conditions and HGH. Maybe I missed it but do they know what caused the strokes or the high potassium? What do you want to accomplish with the HGH? No matter what you decide thanks for the inspiration! !
What are you taking right now and what is your height? 270 is a pretty damn big, what is your bodyfat? Tbh family and health comes first man.
At 270 lbs, don't you think you chances of having another stroke is pretty high? Idk if you are natural or not but if you are taking gear just realise that could be making the problem worse.
I respect your work ethic but health comes first man, just make sure your doctor is okay with what you're doing.
At 270 lbs, don't you think you chances of having another stroke is pretty high? Idk if you are natural or not but if you are taking gear just realise that could be making the problem worse.
I respect your work ethic but health comes first man, just make sure your doctor is okay with what you're doing.
yeah i just answered someone elses question on why doctors say their is a high risk of stroke when using steroids, testosterones were the particular question, and the hormones cause you to create more hemoglobins, which thickens the blood, while at the same time these same hormones help synthesize a specific lipid called "thrombane somethng or other lol" and this lipid somehow signals the vessels to constrict, so you have a recipe for disaster , so they say anyhow, and thats the reason why they say steroids lead to stroke,
Polycythemia which they say is a common occurence or disorder that arises in men who are on trt or hrt , due to the increased hemoglobin which in turn causes a thickening of the blood, slower moving blood flow tends to cause or create a better chance of clotting, and on top of this testosterone has been found to increase the production of the lipid thrombane or some something like that, this is the narrowing of the blood vessels , so between the slower moving blood and narrowing of the blood vessels, you have a pretty good recipe for clotting which leads to stroke
With what little information you gave us on your condition etc... it sounds risky to me. 270 is fucking big and I'm not convinced you put on 80 pounds in 2 years while recovering physically. Sounds to me like you need to talk to your doctor and your wife before things get worse. Maybe your strokes are genetic, maybe not. You didn't say. But I think you're playing with fire
HGH
Well I used to work out very hard and did some shows in in my mid 30's and yeah when I had the stroke I was on a ventilator where I couldn't breathe on my own for 8 days , they actually told my wife to prepare herself because if I came through that I probably would be brain dead. But I over came all of it and worked harder than ever to get my weight back from 190 to 270. But I do appreciate your concern and you definitely make an excellent point, I think I will take your advice and talk to my doctor about it, I don't want my wife knowing about it because she already calls me a meat head and has always said I take roids and I don't. It is some of the guys at the gym have been taking to me about it and I thought what the heck, yet I don't know anything about the HGH and how to use it and what it can do for you. So thank you for your input your a great cool guy to be worried of someone you never met so that means so much to me and thank you so much for your answers!!! I will keep you informed about what happens , thanks again.
Well I used to work out very hard and did some shows in in my mid 30's and yeah when I had the stroke I was on a ventilator where I couldn't breathe on my own for 8 days , they actually told my wife to prepare herself because if I came through that I probably would be brain dead. But I over came all of it and worked harder than ever to get my weight back from 190 to 270. But I do appreciate your concern and you definitely make an excellent point, I think I will take your advice and talk to my doctor about it, I don't want my wife knowing about it because she already calls me a meat head and has always said I take roids and I don't. It is some of the guys at the gym have been taking to me about it and I thought what the heck, yet I don't know anything about the HGH and how to use it and what it can do for you. So thank you for your input your a great cool guy to be worried of someone you never met so that means so much to me and thank you so much for your answers!!! I will keep you informed about what happens , thanks again.
Dean Destructo
New member
190-270? What is your bf%?
I will tell you right now that if you are a 5'10-6' man walking around at 270 you are definitely a higher risk for a stroke even without your previous history. I will go further to say that if you want to have another stroke then keep the weight and start the gear. As far as HGH goes, it is going to INCREASE blood volume, so once again, will probably increase your chances.
Also you should already be seeing a Doc regularly since the stroke. If you are not I urge you to. I am not trying to be condescending, but being from the medical field I felt I had to tell you the truth of my opinion.
That opinion is , do not take gear! The risk for you is too great at this point, IMHO.
Iron Game
Veteran
Agreed and @ 270 your already huge brother
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