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rooster1
09-08-2002, 09:32 PM
I felt stronger than ever today in the gym and had a bad nights sleep.That is very unusual.But I remembered today that I forgot to take my liquidex for 2 days and took it.Has anyone else noticed this and take little or no anti e's.......??

Gear101*
09-08-2002, 09:34 PM
never really happened.. but i've had good and bad days in the gym

DIESEL
09-08-2002, 09:41 PM
yeah,i've always wondered about that but like gear said,you have good and bad days in the gym.I used letrozole on my last cycle since it's supposed to increase I.G.F.1,as opposed to liquidex which is supposed to decrease it and I had a better cycle on liquidex.The % it's supposed affecit it is small so it may not affect actual gains at all.

highside
09-08-2002, 10:20 PM
I think it does if you use to much. You have to have the correct balance of test/estrogen. I have not experimented enough to know, but no guys that wont touch it unless they start to get gyno symtoms. And they are also not on heavy cycles. I would not do a heavy cycle without it. I dont do heavy cycles, but I would not do one without it.

rooster1
09-09-2002, 12:23 AM
:) about good and bad days,but this was by FAR the best workout I've had on this cycle and I kicked off with dbol.Actually today is the type of strength and intensity I've been waiting for all along with AS.I'm moving into week 6 so possibly this is when test/deca really starts kicking in.But I had little sleep as usuall and wasn't expecting much when I walked into the gym and half way thru felt like I could bench the house[of course I didn't try,hehe]
But it was enough to make me think that I could get by with less liquidex and see what happens.I'm not on a heavy cycle:
800mg/wk test [not counting for any underdosing]
600mg/wk deca
50mg/ed dbol [1-4 is over]
50mg/ed winny starting week 9-14,test/deca ends on 12

But like I was saying the difference was so amazing to me I just wanted to see if anyone else had experienced that or played with it any:D

boking
09-09-2002, 04:09 AM
not really, but sometimes when i take a couple days off, then get back into the gym, i feel stronger then ever.

goldenear
09-09-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Presser
The added water weight help your strength...

Yep, and I'll never use an anti-e while bulking unless I absolutely must.

Kevan
09-09-2002, 12:28 PM
I have to agree with the water idea.. i think it does make a difference. A buddy and I were on the same cycle started the same day... trained together. about 3/4 of the way through i started in on the Proivorn and he didn't. With in a week he was pushing more weight in the gym than i could and I lost a few lbs... obviously water. But in the end i kept all I gained... he lost more of it.

GetnBigr
09-10-2002, 01:08 PM
Presser makes good point

rooster1
09-11-2002, 01:31 AM
THANKS for all input.I always put safety first and am convinced anti e's are the safe way to go,but I am definitely going to cut back some.I can't wait to try the arimidex.Cut in fours is 1/4 mg and will be easier to control dose.And then will have something to compare to.

thate1
09-11-2002, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by rooster1
:) But it was enough to make me think that I could get by with less liquidex and see what happens.I'm not on a heavy cycle:
800mg/wk test [not counting for any underdosing]
600mg/wk deca
50mg/ed dbol [1-4 is over]
50mg/ed winny starting week 9-14,test/deca ends on 12
:D

That cycle seems kind of heavy to me bro. What was your dosage or liquidex at the beginning?

rooster1
09-14-2002, 01:18 AM
:) was in 1ml and after dividing that down,came to 8 drops or so for a 1/2 mg of liquidex.But there was always a little left in the syringe and my bottle bubbles up on top and your not going to let that go to waist,so I had to have been taking a lot more than I thought.I now loaded up 3ml in a syringe and just take 3 to 4 drops until thats mt then I'll load it up again.I feel better in the gym since all this took place.:D