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06-23-2012, 12:05 PM #1
Myostatin inhibitors for insane muscle and strength gains
So I have decided to write a little on myostatin inhibitors because I have noticed that not a lot of people over look it.
So to sum everything up mystatins are proteins that are made in our body. When this protein is inhibited the body starts making muscles in an insanely rate. Do you guys remember these photos?
[media]https://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/6/b62a0-002.jpg[/media]
Here's a baby with inhibited myostatin and this was covered in multiple of my biology classes. You can see after 7 months it has a very muscular leg with the quads a bulging out with an incredible growth in the calf muscles.
[media]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/R7G4dbGVTwI/AAAAAAAAAFY/spuETrlgS08/s320/myostatinblockedboy.jpg[/media]
Here's another one. The mice on the right left is a normal mouse, the animal on the far right has its myostatin protein inhibited
[media]https://www.mesomorphosis.com/images/elzi-volk/myostatin-mice.jpg[/media]
Here's a quote from wikipedia about it:
Animals lacking myostatin or animals treated with substances such as follistatin that block the binding of myostatin to its receptor have significantly larger muscles. Thus, reduction of myostatin could potentially benefit the livestock industry, with even a 20 percent reduction in myostatin levels potentially having a large effect on the development of muscles.[4][5]
all at once because once the peptide is reconned it becomes very fragile and it degrades very quickly. So it has to be given quickly and it will stay in the body for an entire month. Some use a vial every two weeks during their research.
I know this is not a detailed writting and I'll try to answer any questions but I'm getting yelled at for some reason freaking reason so I have to go take care of before I get a headache.
Until then here's the wiki link to myostatin inhibitors:
Myostatin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Myostatin inhibitor
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06-23-2012, 01:29 PM #2
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06-23-2012, 07:14 PM #3
to tell you the truth I'm still deciding on that but I know if I could get my hands on both I would do both at once.
Look at this research:
Inhibition of myostatin with emphasis on follis... [Muscle Nerve. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI
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06-23-2012, 08:26 PM #4
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06-24-2012, 01:49 AM #5
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I did some folistatin and had great results!!!!! Strength went way up and has stayed even after stoppnig use. Folistsain is more of a strength and lean muscle builder. I actualy didn't gain hardly any weight, but my bod compisition changed. I honestly believe me running folistatin after the show I did when my body was depleted and was absorbing everything I put in it, is why I have grown so much put have kept at around 10% BF ever since. I had my doubts but folostatin, at least the brand I ran was top notch!!!!!
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I know from reading the study on it that when translated to humans, it would not be very wise financially. Plus they rats started to have deteriorating tendons because of the amount of myo inhibitor used. I don't know the exact amount, but I do remember it was something crazy in the time of the study...
I'll see if I can find it again and post it up...
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06-25-2012, 02:41 PM #12
Sorry guys I had family issue come up I'll answer all the questions by end of today.
Until I respond to each one of the comments here's a video of a toddler that has myostatin inhibition naturally occurring. They are 3 parts to it so watch all of them. Below is part one.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDllYLasHxU[/media]
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06-25-2012, 02:51 PM #13
Glad to hear you had great results with it bud. Yeah folli did wonders for strength gain and you kind of recomped on it. For size and strength gain I would say stack folli and myostatin inhibitor together
From all the research I've seen follistatin does wonders on strength gain. Myostatin inhibitor on the other hand give your more of a size gain but you still get a good strength gain from it.
I believe for mouse and rats they run experiments anywhere from 4-12 weeks. People usually run them for a month or two but then they stop because of the pricing. For some reason people spend more money on GH than on these stuff but I think that is because this stuff is new.
You just need to recon and use one entire vial in the same day and you'll be good to go for a month. People that wonder bigger and better results, usually the big boys, run a vial every two weeks. Again you want to recon and pin the ENTIRE one in the same day. Once these stuff recon they became extremely fragile and the degrade uber quickly. So use it as soon as it's fully mixed. Phil and one of his employees spent a lot of money until they figured this out.
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06-25-2012, 02:53 PM #14
I'm going to research on what dosages they are using on animals but every log I've seen and every research I've seen people have been just using one vial at a time and if they are going crazy one vial every two weeks.
I will post how to use this stuff later today. I'm about to head to inside class.
By the way don't forget to take 10% of the price you see on ergopep's website...because of the code and all that
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06-25-2012, 05:45 PM #17
I believe folli came in 1mg/vial but I personally haven't ever seen the myostatin in 1mg/vial container.
From the research phil and one of his employees did once the folli was reconned it degraded very quickly. Like the second the was okay, third day was meh, fourth day was nothing. And there was a HUGE difference between the first day and the meh.
I would still pin it all at once. It's stays in your body for about a month I believe. That's usually around the time that things start slowing down.
By the way one this stuff you'll get really really hungry. Like you just want to eat non stop and that because your body is using a lot more energy for building muscle so it is requesting more energy.
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IIRC, MyoHMP was available in 1mg from China. It was tagged tho, so there was only 500mcg of active compound in it. Caused nasty sides. The US MyoHMP is tagless, so you get the full 250mcg of active compound and avoid the "Myo-flu" that was commonly observed with the Chinese MyoHMP. JJB1 or Osiris please correct me if I mis-spoke.
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Wait a Minute guys? Seriously..i've been reading about this stuff for the past several years and LORD knows seen all the crap the Supplement industry has tried to pass off as 'Myostatin Inhibitors' but NOW we can really get ahold of the stuff?!?
I thought it was still in research and unavailable to ANYONE??
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06-26-2012, 09:33 AM #22
I think you are right. I know Folli had a huge tag issue. They were two kinds to the tag also and the flu effect really sucked. I belive it was cold sweats, lethargic, and bunch of other stuff. Just made you feel like doo doo so you didn't feel like doing anything anymore.
Yeah they are available. Actually that video I posted came out long time ago and when people actually found out about that kid and myo inhibitors the UG chemists made it and it was out but now they have them with better purity and more consisted production.
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06-26-2012, 10:01 AM #23
I'm trying to find the dosage and the length that they give these to the animals but here is some random ones that I found interesting.
Myostatin, a negative regulator of muscle growth, functions by inhibiting myoblast proliferation.
Growth factors controlling muscle development.
Myostatin inhibition by a follistatin-derived peptide ameliorates the pathophysiology of muscular dystrophy model mice.
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06-28-2012, 01:40 PM #24
So I've gotten couple of PMs about the dosage and how to do this so I thought it would be a good idea if I posted it on here also.
You recon this myostatin inhibitor with bac water. During/after recon do not shake or throw the vial or place it in a hot environment.
Pin the entire vial as soon as everything is mixed. IM injection. I personally would try to go as deep as possible when pinning them since it's only one shot and not to mention an expensive one.
Eat right, eat A LOT, and train like a best. That should be about it
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07-01-2012, 05:43 PM #25
I actually just found out that we actually do carry follistatin. It's named under "Ergopep Cash $100"
Here's the link to it:
Logistics : Peptides!, Your Online Shop For Research
and they are couple of guys that have ordered myostatin inhibitor on other boards and I'll let you guys know how their results are. I'm thinking of running Folli since it's a lot cheaper than myostatin inhibitor. Get my strength up...I mean fuck I want to squat 500lbs SOOO bad...or even better FRONT squat 500lbs...oh, that would be so beautiful!
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Resurrected a year-old thread. Can't really point you to any place. Sites that used to sell it for research purposes seem to have discontinued it, probably because it was too expensive to get and sell for as cheaply as they were.
To answer some of the earlier questions in this thread which may help others who read this now that it is resurrected, the amount given to the mice in the experiments translated to roughly 4 grams for a 200lb man to give similar results (60% increase in mass in two weeks). Undoubtedly, those who used these inhibitors (and got the real thing) at small mcg dosages experienced marked body composition changes. This is because the other less spoken effect of these inhibitors was a loss of bodyfat so the user tended to become leaner and harder with some of the better responders experiencing some muscle growth as well (dependent on dosages of course).
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