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    Look back through picture archives of bodybuilding and you will be struck by a startling fact. In the last half-decade bodybuilders have been getting much larger much quicker. Certain professionals have added twenty pounds to their contest weight in one season, after having seemingly reached a plateau. The bodybuilding audience loves to hear that this weight gain is due to some secret drug or some newly discovered gene therapy. Elaborate theories are developed to explain these rapid weight gains and the professionals themselves are not helpful; they claim that it's the new X-brand supplement that's doing it and leave it at that.

    The truth is that bodybuilders have discovered the most anabolic hormone produced by the body, insulin. Additionally, insulin has the benefit of being not only legal and over the counter in most states, but it is very cheap. A bottle costs less then thirty dollars and there is no need to worry about counterfeits. By correctly using insulin, in conjunction with human growth hormone and anabolic steroids, modern professionals have added pounds of mass onto seemingly stagnant physiques.

    This chapter will give a brief overview of insulin and the methods by which its anabolic action is exerted. We will outline how to correctly and safely use insulin both to gain size and to prepare for a contest (or simply diet).

    Insulin: The Overview
    Insulin is a peptide hormone, secreted by the pancreatic islets of Langerhans. Insulin promotes glucose utilization, protein synthesis, and regulates the metabolism of sugar. Insulin travels until it reaches receptor sites on cells. At these sites insulin facilitates the transport of glucose and amino acids across the cell membrane to be used inside the cell for energy and protein synthesis. This is insulin's anabolic effect, not only in super-saturating the cells with nutrients, but also helping to volumize the cell.

    Insulin Safety:
    There are significant risks that accompany the use of insulin. The greatest risk is an over-dose of insulin, which leads to hypoglycemic shock. This is not an overdose in the typical sense of the word; in this case it means that too much insulin was administered for the amount of glucose in the bloodstream. To this end, it is important to choose the correct type of insulin and to know when it peaks and the effective period of action of the drug in your body. This information is provided later in this chapter.

    The symptoms of insulin shock are easy to recognize.

    Distress is relatively rapid, usually in a matter of minutes.

    Hunger.

    Sweating.

    Cold, clammy feeling.

    Paleness.

    Trembling, anxiety.

    Rapid heartbeat.

    Feeling of weakness or faintness.

    Irritability and change in mood or personality.

    Loss of consciousness.

    Treatment:

    Feed the person a source of quickly absorbed sugar. If the person is conscious, table sugar, fruit juice, honey, a non-diet soft drink, or any other available sugar source will do. If the person is unconscious, do not try to force sugar or liquid down his throat. Honey, granulated sugar, or a special capsule (such as D-glucose) containing concentrated sugars, which some diabetics carry, can be carefully placed under the tongue where it is absorbed into the body. However, this may be difficult to do.

    There is another rapid form of intervention that anyone using insulin should know about; a glucagon pen. Injectable glucagon is a hormone, normally produced in the pancreas, which has effects opposite to those of insulin. It is commonly used to treat hypoglycemia or low blood sugar. It may also be used to relax parts of the gastrointestinal tract for certain examinations. It is not a controlled substance. In the event of the onset of hypoglycemia, this emergency injection will pull your blood sugar back up. If you are using insulin, you should have one of these pens with you at all times.

    Take the person to a hospital emergency room as quickly as possible. Severe insulin reactions can be fatal. Do not be afraid of getting into "trouble", the use of insulin is legal. You will certainly get a lecture about how crazy it is to use insulin, but you will not be arrested or detained in anyway.

    It is extremely important to have someone who you can trust monitor you when you are using insulin. They should be aware of the signs of insulin shock as well as the course of action to follow in the event that you do slip into a hypoglycemic state. Some insulin users will go so far as to purchase a medic alert bracelet that indicates them as a diabetic in the even that they pass out in public.

    During a bulking phase, when calorie intake is deliberately high, insulin shock is not likely to be a problem assuming that post injection nutrition is precise (as outlined later in the chapter). In the even that you begin to feel any of the above symptoms immediately begin to consume the most simple sugars you can find, particularly look for glucose polymers and dextrose. Avoid fructose, as it is ineffective at raising blood sugar levels rapidly.

    In the even that you are using insulin in dieting, do not be afraid to "blow your diet" by eating candy if you feel your blood sugar getting dangerously low. Your diet is not worth your life.

    Types of Insulin:
    There are three important characteristics that differentiate the available types of modern insulin. To properly use insulin in bodybuilding it is important to know the following characteristics:

    Onset:
    the time it takes the injected insulin to reach the blood stream and begin to work.
    Peak:
    the time period in which the insulin is working it's hardest to lower the blood sugar.
    Duration:
    the length of time the insulin will be working in the bloodstream. It is important to remember that insulin is an indiscriminate storage hormone. It doesn't care if its storing fat or glucose. Therefore fat intake should be as low as possible during the effective period of the insulin in the body. This will help prevent excessive fat gain.

    For bodybuilding purposes we will only be concerned with three types of insulin; Humalin "R", Humalin "N" and Humalog are the most useful types of insulin. The other varieties are mixes of the above types in set ratios.

    Humalin "N" is the longest acting insulin; it is active in the body for 24 hours. Additionally, it peaks several times throughout the day. Humalin "N' is useful in the high calorie off-season when there will always be an abundant supply of glucose. However, even the most dedicated bodybuilder who is eating many small meals may run into serious trouble in the insulin peak corresponds to a period of low blood sugar. Also, the long duration of Humalin "N' means that the bodybuilder must adhere to a low fat diet throughout the day, which is incongruously with the eating necessary to achieve brutal size.

    Humalin "R" is known as the rapid insulin. The manufacturers claim that this type of insulin is active in the body for up to six hours; in reality it's closer to four and a half hours. The onset time of "R" is roughly thirty minutes and the drug peaks in one and a half to two and a half hours after injection.

    Humalog is the fastest acting insulin. It has duration of about 2 hours, peaks in fifteen minutes, and is ideal for bodybuilding purposes because it is out of the body quickly. The speed at which Humalog works is beneficial because it allows us more precise control and lets us know exactly when food needs to be consumed.

    Insulin Injection Procedure:
    Insulin can be injected intravenously, intramuscularly, or subcutaneously. Injection insulin into the veins is creepy, but safe. However, it is not necessary to do this, as injection insulin into muscle or under the skin is just as effective.

    The injection site, exercise, and the accuracy of the dosage measurement, the depth of injection and by environmental temperatures, can affect insulin absorption. To obtain consistency in daily insulin absorption and action, you should vary injection sites within the same anatomical region. The abdomen provides an excellent area for consistent absorption of insulin, whereas the leg and arm areas are often affected more by exercise. Repeated injection in the same area may cause a delay in absorption whereas massaging the site of injection may lead to an increased rate of absorption. Insulin should be injected at a 90-degree angle using an insulin syringe (25 unit, 30 unit, 50 unit, or 100 unit size) or with an insulin pen. If redness, pain, or lumps are noted at the injection site, this area should be avoided until the problem goes away.

    Be sure to follow proper sterilization procedures. Wipe down the injection area with alcohol. The insulin needle is very thin so bleeding should be minimal. However, press a swab of cotton soaked in alcohol over the injection site after you withdraw the needle. This will protect almost entirely against infection.

    An increase in blood flow to an injection site will increase the rate that insulin is absorbed. So, exercise will cause insulin to be absorbed more rapidly, because blood flow has increased to the exerted muscle groups. You will need to either inject less insulin or eat more carbohydrates after exercise. Rubbing the injected area increases blood flow, and hence, absorption.
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    Part 2

    Post Injection Meals and Supplements:
    Depending on the onset time of the insulin type you are using you have varying lengths of time in which to ingest the post-insulin meal. Generally your post insulin meals should follow these guidelines.

    60-80 grams of a good quality protein powder. Whey protein is ideal. This is taken immediately after the injection.

    7 grams of simple carbohydrates (not fructose as it does not raise blood sugar quickly enough) per IU of insulin injected. Every 15-20 minutes after the first shot, take a few glucose tablets. This is will increase the amount of glucose available to your body for storage.

    200 mg of chromium picolinate (this is optional).

    200 mg of lipoic acid (this is optional).

    30 mg vanadyl sulfate (this is optional).

    2000 mg of hydroxy citric acid (this is optional).

    5-7 grams of creatine monohydrate. This is crucial.

    5-7 grams of glutamine powder. This is also crucial.

    The total amount of insulin that you will be using daily is roughly 15-45 IUs depending on how many carbohydrates you can eat that day. During dieting periods, the total amount of insulin will be greatly reduced.

    Typically, three injections of insulin are used daily. The first is taken immediately upon awaking; this is an appropriate time to use the Humalin "R". The second shot is taken mid-day and Humalog is recommended. The last injection is taken immediately after the workout of the day. If you are doing a double split training program, then take one shot after each workout and adjust your other injection accordingly. Do not take an injection too late at night; you want to be able to stay awake through the entire period of action so you can monitor yourself for signs of low blood sugar.

    Anyone who is going to use insulin should take some time to familiarize him or herself with the glycemic index. The glycemic index is a ranking of foods based on how they effect the body's blood sugar levels. There are many resources that provide elaborate listing of many types of foods including fast foods. For our purposes it is merely important to identify the foods with high glycemic index scores to consume with the insulin injection. Below is a list of foods (or sugars) that scored very highly on the glycemic index.

    Whole Foods or Candies

    Jelly Beans

    Dates

    Sugar types
    (in ascending order; Maltose elevates blood sugar the most)

    Lactose

    Honey

    High fructose corn syrup

    Glucose

    Glucose tablets

    Maltodextrin

    Maltose

    Conclusion
    For many, insulin may seem like the perfect bodybuilding drug. It's legal, cheap, effective, and easy to obtain. However, the decision to use insulin is not one that can be made lightly. At worst, the misuse or abuse of anabolic steroids will probably result in no more than elevated liver enzymes and a host of undesirable cosmetic side effects. Improper use of insulin will result in much more serious consequences, including death. Bodybuilders must first ask themselves if they possess the necessary maturity and intelligence to responsibly use this hormone. Look before you leap my friends.
     

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    Hey buffalo, i'm jake. Im new to this site. Listen man. Im so confused on insulin. Im about there on it. I just need some advice on a few things. Ive read so many dofferent things from so many different forums And sites. I have a few bottles of Novolog fast acting insulin at the house. Now ive read newbies should do fast acting insulin. Heres a few stats of mine. 25 yrs old. Have run 4 AAS cycles as well as peptides. Like i said ive read so many different things my mind is blown. Ive read this guy takes celltech prior to insulin, then this and that.


    Im planning on starting out at 2IUs PWO. Taking 60-80g of whey protein. As well as 5-7g of creatine mono and l-glutamine. The part that has me confused is the carb part. Ive read between 7-10g of carbs per IU of slin. So if i was to do 2IUS PWO would i only do 20g of carbs? My carbs source will be dextrose. Just about everyones numbers are 60-80g protein, 40-60simple carbs, then ive read have glucose tabs to eat as well. My other question is after an hour or two, have a solid meal like chicken and sweet potatoes. Then would i inject another 2IUS? Im wanting to use insulin to bulk. Like what would a diet look like bulking wise on slin. Sorry for so many questions. Ive just read this works that doesn't. Then that works and this doesn't. I just want to have someone who knows what they're talking about give me advice an the questions answered i want answered ya know. If you or anyone could help me out man id really appreciate it. Im not planning on usong it as soon as get the info for i still am gonna research for a while. And please no harsh/ragging on me type comments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake34 View Post
    Hey buffalo, i'm jake. Im new to this site. Listen man. Im so confused on insulin. Im about there on it. I just need some advice on a few things. Ive read so many dofferent things from so many different forums And sites. I have a few bottles of Novolog fast acting insulin at the house. Now ive read newbies should do fast acting insulin. Heres a few stats of mine. 25 yrs old. Have run 4 AAS cycles as well as peptides. Like i said ive read so many different things my mind is blown. Ive read this guy takes celltech prior to insulin, then this and that.


    Im planning on starting out at 2IUs PWO. Taking 60-80g of whey protein. As well as 5-7g of creatine mono and l-glutamine. The part that has me confused is the carb part. Ive read between 7-10g of carbs per IU of slin. So if i was to do 2IUS PWO would i only do 20g of carbs? My carbs source will be dextrose. Just about everyones numbers are 60-80g protein, 40-60simple carbs, then ive read have glucose tabs to eat as well. My other question is after an hour or two, have a solid meal like chicken and sweet potatoes. Then would i inject another 2IUS? Im wanting to use insulin to bulk. Like what would a diet look like bulking wise on slin. Sorry for so many questions. Ive just read this works that doesn't. Then that works and this doesn't. I just want to have someone who knows what they're talking about give me advice an the questions answered i want answered ya know. If you or anyone could help me out man id really appreciate it. Im not planning on usong it as soon as get the info for i still am gonna research for a while. And please no harsh/ragging on me type comments.


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    First of all WELCOME TO MUSCLECHEMISTRY !!

    Ok yes you should take 10grams of carbs per 1.i.u. of insulin. everything you laid out sounds like you know what to do, however i would not suggest taking another 2.i.u of insulin hours later after the first round of insulin....especially if your training in the evenings, as this would have you doing the 2nd round of insulin too late in the evening for my comfort, and even if u are training early enough, i would not do the 2nd round of insulin until you have experienced a couple weeks of one round of slin daily. And yes fast acting insulin is the way to go

    Sounds to me like you have it down pretty good brutha but i strongly recommend you not take the 2nd round, i would instead start with the 2.i.u daily for a few days then take the dose up ever so slightly by 1-2 i.u and ofcourse dont forget to ramp your carbs accordingly when upping the insulin.

    and again welcome

    OH AND MOST IMPORTANTLY......MAKE SURE YOU TELL SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU THAT YOUR USING INSULIN DAILY, SO THEY CAN WATCH YOU AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW TO HAVE QUICK SIMPLE CARBS HANDY! A GIRL FRIEND , BROTHER , TRAINING PARTNER, WHOEVER, BUT TELL SOMEONE UR ON INSULIN IF YOU DO DECIDE TO DO THIS. MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM USING INSULIN MY MAN!
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    thanks for the welcome man. well i usually train around 3:00-4 on my days i work and the days Im off'..i work from 7pm-7am 4 days a week. I'm gonna pin on workout days only of course. And okay sweet. i thought i had most of it down. just eas a bit concerned. okay so, 2IUS of Novolog PWO only then. 60-80g of whey protein in warm water. 20g of dextrose, 5-7 g of creatine and l-gltamine? correct? just one more question. lets say after my PWO pin. like 2-3 hours later i start getting dizzy or weak feeling. whst should i do?
     

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    Eat more carbs as fast as humanly possible! And never heard of warm water though?
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    Hey Jake, welcome to the best bb site / forum out there....great guys n gals with solid advise and shared experiences...do yourself a favor and give the MC IGF a test drive...best thing you can do for yourself and for a mucb better physique....
    Regarding using insulin.....becareful and really be prepared......I just got out of hospital due to using insulin and not eating enough carbs post workout.....totally my dumb asses fault and I've usex it on and off for years its jus t this time I wS sloppy and almost paid for it with my life....I am surd ur a really bright and smart guy.....just don't get sloppy with somethong as dangerous as insulin...
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    Okay so that's where the candy would come into play. and I've read a lot of forums with people saying warm water. i was abojt to say. i hate water/protein together. so warm water and protein would have me puking my ass off Lol.
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    Dang man! I bet. i know insulin is nothing to play with. that's why ive been asking so much. most forums doesn't even allow you to talk about insulin because where it can kill you. like i said I'm def not gonna use it soon. but this info is for when i do. i got a cycle coming in a few days. so that's what ill be playing with for a few weeks. TNE, Tren no ester, Methyl trienolone, and some winny taba

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    Quote Originally Posted by eswol View Post
    Hey Jake, welcome to the best bb site / forum out there....great guys n gals with solid advise and shared experiences...do yourself a favor and give the MC IGF a test drive...best thing you can do for yourself and for a mucb better physique....
    Regarding using insulin.....becareful and really be prepared......I just got out of hospital due to using insulin and not eating enough carbs post workout.....totally my dumb asses fault and I've usex it on and off for years its jus t this time I wS sloppy and almost paid for it with my life....I am surd ur a really bright and smart guy.....just don't get sloppy with somethong as dangerous as insulin...
    Gr8 to bave you here at Muscle Chemistry.....look forward in reading ur post and comments.
    good stuff bro, i just gave you 200 credits for ur honesty and warning about insulin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake34 View Post
    Okay so that's where the candy would come into play. and I've read a lot of forums with people saying warm water. i was abojt to say. i hate water/protein together. so warm water and protein would have me puking my ass off Lol.
    yeah i dont know about warm water bro, lol, Only thing i honestly know about warm water as opposed to cold water is it takes/burns a couple extra calories when you drink cold water and even that i think is bullshit,lol .

    Any idea of the reasoning behind them saying drink warm water protien drinks? Also i hate protein with water as well, I always mix mine with Milk
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    Thanks for the extra credits, appreciate it.....just want to keep it real and let others know although our sport is viewed as being in good health it doesn't come with some extreme cautions and dangerous choices.....I just got sloppy and was on auto pilot as it becomes a daily action when we take our "supplements"........I was honest with the paramedic, ER Doctor and my Dr on what I did and why I went Hypo...can't get in trouble but also didn't want them to run a bunch of unneeded test to find out why I went into full blown seizure and cost me thousands of dollars....once I told them and they connected the dots it all made sense to them and was able to be released from hospital and go home.......
    becareful and don't be a dumbass like me......
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    Quote Originally Posted by eswol View Post
    Thanks for the extra credits, appreciate it.....just want to keep it real and let others know although our sport is viewed as being in good health it doesn't come with some extreme cautions and dangerous choices.....I just got sloppy and was on auto pilot as it becomes a daily action when we take our "supplements"........I was honest with the paramedic, ER Doctor and my Dr on what I did and why I went Hypo...can't get in trouble but also didn't want them to run a bunch of unneeded test to find out why I went into full blown seizure and cost me thousands of dollars....once I told them and they connected the dots it all made sense to them and was able to be released from hospital and go home.......
    becareful and don't be a dumbass like me......
    yeah i use to be honest with my docs, now days though i keep shit to myself but in ur exact case i would have been honest to
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    What would be another source of a carb PWO before the use of insulin? could you use a solid food like oatmeal for example? or would dextrose be safer? also, would waxy maize be an option? I've read one person uses it. then i read it doesn't work as good as dextrose. any input guys?
     

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    Very good read! Personally I would STRONGLY advise HEAVY use of MC IGF long before any insulin use. It's just very difficult to use correctly and unless you are using GH and T3 with it, you're going to gain some fat. Depending on how good you are with it you may end up losing the little amount of muscle you gained by trying to lose the inevitable fat.
    MC IGF on the other hand helps add muscle, lose fat, crazy pumps, and injury healing and prevention
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Very good read! Personally I would STRONGLY advise HEAVY use of MC IGF long before any insulin use. It's just very difficult to use correctly and unless you are using GH and T3 with it, you're going to gain some fat. Depending on how good you are with it you may end up losing the little amount of muscle you gained by trying to lose the inevitable fat.
    MC IGF on the other hand helps add muscle, lose fat, crazy pumps, and injury healing and prevention
    hands down thats my choice! I didn't like insulin when i used it. And i wasn't strict enough and put on a little fat , but it wasn't for me
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    good read to bump, with the spring around the corner and everyone bulking up as much and fast as possible before cutting for shows or just the beach, i thought this was a good reminder read
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    another bump for new members asking about humalog
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    Jake, watch fat intake when insulin is active. Fat takes priority and is immediately stored as such when active. That super-fast-acting is exactly that, I got hypo-glycemia just slipping into the store to get a few things lol. Well, I hit the candy counter and just started eating candy after candy until it subsided. Like he said, start out low until you adjust. I really like his protocol and plan to try it. I'll be cutting though so my insulin will be less. For bulking, sweet potatoes are great. Look up the diets recommended by "The Rock". I think you can order the meals from Bodybuilding.com or cook your own. It's a lot of food though and a lot of cooking! The medium-fast is safer if you haven't used insulin before but like he says, it's active window is a lot longer

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    Hey buffalo, i'm jake. Im new to this site. Listen man. Im so confused on insulin. Im about there on it. I just need some advice on a few things. Ive read so many dofferent things from so many different forums And sites. I have a few bottles of Novolog fast acting insulin at the house. Now ive read newbies should do fast acting insulin. Heres a few stats of mine. 25 yrs old. Have run 4 AAS cycles as well as peptides. Like i said ive read so many different things my mind is blown. Ive read this guy takes celltech prior to insulin, then this and that.


    Im planning on starting out at 2IUs PWO. Taking 60-80g of whey protein. As well as 5-7g of creatine mono and l-glutamine. The part that has me confused is the carb part. Ive read between 7-10g of carbs per IU of slin. So if i was to do 2IUS PWO would i only do 20g of carbs? My carbs source will be dextrose. Just about everyones numbers are 60-80g protein, 40-60simple carbs, then ive read have glucose tabs to eat as well. My other question is after an hour or two, have a solid meal like chicken and sweet potatoes. Then would i inject another 2IUS? Im wanting to use insulin to bulk. Like what would a diet look like bulking wise on slin. Sorry for so many questions. Ive just read this works that doesn't. Then that works and this doesn't. I just want to have someone who knows what they're talking about give me advice an the questions answered i want answered ya know. If you or anyone could help me out man id really appreciate it. Im not planning on usong it as soon as get the info for i still am gonna research for a while. And please no harsh/ragging on me type comments.


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    Jake, watch fat intake when insulin is active. Fat takes priority and is immediately stored as such when active. That super-fast-acting is exactly that, I got hypo-glycemia just slipping into the store to get a few things lol. Well, I hit the candy counter and just started eating candy after candy until it subsided. Like he said, start out low until you adjust. I really like his protocol and plan to try it. I'll be cutting though so my insulin will be less. For bulking, sweet potatoes are great. Look up the diets recommended by "The Rock". I think you can order the meals from Bodybuilding.com or cook your own. It's a lot of food though and a lot of cooking! The medium-fast is safer if you haven't used insulin before but like he says, it's active window is a lot longer
    welcome to mc brutha, and great advice, as i knew better and was well researched before using insulin, and thought i could get away with a little dirty eating here and there, but nope! had to stop insulin as it will add fat fast as fuck,
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    For the many of you who find this through searching for insulin protocols, and do's and donts on taking insulin, let me say this, be careful and I would always use Insulin-like growth factor-1 long r3 before insulin! IGF-1 lr3 is by far a better, and hands down a safer choice with more long term, permanent benefits
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    Insulin protocol in bodybuilding. Made into a sticky thread.
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