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    There are loads of great cycles of steroids aimed at different standards of bodybuilder or looking at different outcome. I've just picked out ten great ones and given a brief description for each. Please bear in mind that sometimes there are different names for drugs depending on where you are in the world or who makes it.

    Most importantly - do not even consider using steroids unless your diet is ideal for gaining muscle mass, even if you are looking to increase your definition. You should also be training very hard and regular. Make sure your natural gains have slowed down if this is to be your first time. Read the other articles on MuscleTalk, or post questions on the board if you have any queries.

    Gynecomastia (presence of female breast tissue) and other aromatising side effects of some steroids (for example water retention) may be more apparent in certain individuals. If this is a problem take 20mg per day of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen until symptoms disappear, then continue with 10mg per day until the end of the cycle, or Clomid. It is generally thought best not to take Nolvadex unless you have these side effects, though it is good practice to keep some in stock in case it's required.

    Clomid or HCG may be taken post cycle if a few weeks break is expected. This is in order to help kick start your own natural testosterone secretion, to minimise post-cycle side effects and, more importantly, to minimise any muscle loss after a course. There are a number of recommended ways to take Clomid, but an effective method is: 100mg per day for 7 days commencing 7-18 days post cycle depending on what is in the cycle. This is followed by a further 50mg per day for a further 2 weeks.

    Some folk prefer to use HCG, and after heavy stacks both may be suggested. HCG should commence during the last week, with a jab weekly, for 3 jabs of 2500iu each.

    Also I've not mentioned beta-agonists, thyroid hormones or growth hormone in this article. These can be added to any of the stacks as appropriate.

    1. Beginner Cycle #1
    The most frequently asked question in the steroids forum is for a great effective beginners cycle:

    Deca durabolan - 200-400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    IGF 1 Lr3 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 LongR3) 30mcg daily for full 8 weeks

    This is a standard first course recommended by most, even if the individual wishes to lose fat (as diet is the key to fat mobilisation, NOT gear). Whether you opt for Testaviron or Sustanon is personal choice or depends on availability; both are great drugs. 400mg of Deca per week is generally assumed to be the minimum amount for gains, however, many first time users do extremely well on less than this.

    Continue on this for the full 8 weeks, but if you are still growing well, why stop? Review gains every two weeks, and it may be continued for 10, 12 or more weeks.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 2-3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    2. Beginners Cycle #2 - The Classic Mass Builder
    This is a variation on the above:

    IGF 1 Lr3 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 LongR3) 30mcg daily for full 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol - 30mg per day, six days per week for 6 weeks

    This stack should produce good results for the steroid user looking for mass. Here the Deca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards. You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen or Arimidex.

    The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life. Though most people take half in the morning and half in the evening. Take them with / after a protein-based meal.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    3. Nick's Favourite - well, one of many!
    One of my many favourites, again a variation on the above, just with more dosage. This one is a great mass builder and for the more advanced bodybuilder:

    Testaviron depot - 750mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol (Naposims) - 30mg per day, Monday to Friday weeks 2-7
    IGF 1 Lr3 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 LongR3) 50mcg daily for full 8 weeks

    This is a big stack, but not huge, but bloody great !!! I always seem to grow well on Testaviron.

    The above instructions apply, i.e. Nolvadex, Clomid, etc. Clomid should begin 7 days post cycle.

    4. A Biggy from Trident
    Trident claims this is his favourite cycle which he has done a few times:

    Weeks 1 - 4
    Sustanon 250 - 1,000mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week
    Anadrol50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day


    Weeks 5 - 8
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,500mg per week
    Dianabol / Anabol - 50mg per day
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Weeks 9 - 12
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 250mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Nolvadex 10mg per day all through
    Proviron - 50mg per day weeks 2 to 6.
    Commence Clomid week 10 - 50mgs per day for 14 days
    HCG - 2 shots per week of 2500iu with the Clomid


    This is a big cycle, and very androgenic. Like me, Trident swears by Testaviron. Side effects may be high, hence the use of Nolvadex throughout, and the use of Clomid commencing 14 days afterwards, and HCG before the end of the cycle. The use of HCG gets your own testosterone levels up before any fall in androgens. There is a degree of tapering in this cycle due to its high testosterone amounts.

    5. Superman's Super Stack
    This is another great lean mass builder, from a prominent member:

    Finajet / Trenbolone - 75mg per day
    Winstrol - 50mg per day
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100mg every other day


    A six-week course and the usual precautions apply.

    6. Phantomdh's 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' Stack
    Phantomdh's favorite cycle is the 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' cycle:

    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 35mg per day, weeks 1-4
    Winstrol 30mg/ed, weeks 5-10


    This is another great mass builder. The usual precautions apply.

    7. A Testosterone-Free Lean Mass Builder
    This is one if you want to avoid testosterone-based steroids. It's too often assumed that just because 'mild' steroids like Primabolan are not very androgenic, then they're not very good mass builders. Remember, all steroids are anabolic, and Primabolan as part of a stack is an excellent adjunct:

    Primabolan depot - 300mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Winstrol - 150mg per week, weeks 2-7
    This is not a huge stack, but is great for building quality, lean size (coupled with a sensible diet). We have a number of non-bodybuilding members of MuscleTalk, e.g. athletes, footballers, etc, and this may be a great cycle for them to try.

    8. Knorkop's Frontloader
    This is a great cycle from Knorkop, used as an example of frontloading Equipoise and Deca:

    Week 1 - Frontloading
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 800mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 800mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 2
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 3 - 4
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 5 - 8
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 9 and 10:
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone: 100mg every other day


    This is a great lean mass builder again, showing how frontloading is done. The downside is a lot of jabs, due to Equipoise being just 50mg per 1ml. The usual precautions apply, and use HCG and Clomid post cycle at 7 days.

    9. Wrongun's Mind Blower:
    This 'Mind Blowing Stack' was posted by Wrongun. It is a heavy androgenic cycle, and only for use by the experienced gear-user.

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks

    This is not for the faint hearted, and certainly for advanced bodybuilders only. Equipoise is used rather than Deca so as not to overdo progesterone aromatisation. This involves a lot of injections, so try to get Ttokkyo Equipoise, as this is 200mg per 1ml, as opposed to Ganabol or Bolderbol H, which is 50mg per 1ml.

    Side effects will be high on this so take precautions. I would recommend Nolvadex use throughout at 10mg per day, or Arimidex 1mg every other day. Clomid and HCG post cycle are a must - commence the HCG in the last week of the cycle, but Clomid 14 days afterwards

    10. Another Fave!
    Nice and simple, but very effective:

    Anadrol 50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day, 6 days per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    IGF 1 Lr3 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 LongR3) 60mcg daily for full 8 weeks

    Note: Fast Acting Deca would work best in this cycle over the longer ester listed above in Deca Durabolan. Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate (NPP) at same dosage 400mg per week

    The usual precautions are a must here, with Clomid commencing 7 days post cycle.
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    found an oldy, to the top

    Best Cycle of all time for ANYONE is:

    IGF-1 lr3 from www.musclechemadvancedsupps.com

    Testosterone propionate

    Trenbolone Acetate

    Winstrol

    Thats the best cycle i have ever done, and still run to this day!
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    Bumping an oldy but a goody
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    found google search, bump
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    this cycle will make ya grow i just don't like the cycle length and why wouldn't ya use tren in the start of cycle with ur testosterone suspension, I know i would! anyways were all different and react different, but I'm just throwing my 2 cents out there!

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
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    Best Cycle of all time for ANYONE is:

    IGF-1 lr3 from Advanced Supplements

    Testosterone propionate

    Trenbolone Acetate

    Winstrol

    Thats the best cycle i have ever done, and still run to this day!
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    worth a bump
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    Default the best cycle !!

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    worth a bump
    can i take igf-1 ,tren , and wistrol without the testostrone ?
    and why ?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe070707 View Post
    can i take igf-1 ,tren , and wistrol without the testostrone ?
    and why ?
    You can of course but i know i wouldn't do that. reason is the tren kills my sex drive so i need the testosterone to cancel that out
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    Yes, you can is the short answer, but in my opinion Test should be in every cycle somewhere, I think more so when running tren. Since Testosterone is your bodies base hormone and has much more to contribute to your cycle than just building muscle, like mood, well being and overall health. Even if a low dose of test,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench View Post
    Yes, you can is the short answer, but in my opinion Test should be in every cycle somewhere, I think more so when running tren. Since Testosterone is your bodies base hormone and has much more to contribute to your cycle than just building muscle, like mood, well being and overall health. Even if a low dose of test,
    couldn't have said it better myself!
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    Best Steroid Cycle for Bulking, and Cutting! You can do anything you want with this exact cycle and transform your body extremely fast!

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily
    IGF-1 Lr3 60mcgs daily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Best Steroid Cycle for Bulking, and Cutting! You can do anything you want with this exact cycle and transform your body extremely fast!

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily
    IGF-1 Lr3 60mcgs daily
    Bump for a great beginner cycle.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron J View Post
    Bump for a great beginner cycle.
    i wouldn't call that a beginner cycle, though a beginner can use this successfully of course, this cycle will work great even for the more advanced bodybuilders!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Best Steroid Cycle for Bulking, and Cutting! You can do anything you want with this exact cycle and transform your body extremely fast!

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily
    IGF-1 Lr3 60mcgs daily
    I'm gonna try Tren one day lol, I keep saying it but im a big pussy. Hoping to work in some more IGF this coming year as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    i wouldn't call that a beginner cycle, though a beginner can use this successfully of course, this cycle will work great even for the more advanced bodybuilders!
    Well...it was one of my beginning cycles lol I'm with presser on this one tho..99% sure this will end up being my all time favorite!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    this cycle will make ya grow i just don't like the cycle length and why wouldn't ya use tren in the start of cycle with ur testosterone suspension, I know i would! anyways were all different and react different, but I'm just throwing my 2 cents out there!

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    this is a nasty cycle. If you dont put it on using this cycle you're not gonna grow.
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    yeah i know i couldn't do that much shit daily
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    bump, Spring is around the corner, and its go time
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    Good article, well worth the read. Plus Presser posted my favorite cycle in there lol
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Best Steroid Cycle for Bulking, and Cutting! You can do anything you want with this exact cycle and transform your body extremely fast!

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily
    IGF-1 Lr3 60mcgs daily

    Can I use this without the IGF-1, also what would the PCT be like on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    Can I use this without the IGF-1, also what would the PCT be like on this?
    No! You have to use it with the igf-1 lr3 or your dick will fall off and you'll die!!! Lmao kidding of course and welcome to MC and of course you can run this cycle without the igf! I wouldn't but that's just me ��
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    No! You have to use it with the igf-1 lr3 or your dick will fall off and you'll die!!! Lmao kidding of course and welcome to MC and of course you can run this cycle without the igf! I wouldn't but that's just me ��
    I appreciate the response we have a small bodybuilding forum (muscletalk.co.za) here in SA where I am from, but it's not big enough yet to get all the advice one needs.

    I am really interested in running:

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily

    But I am not sure about the PCT part... PCT to me is one big mystery and would really appreciate some help with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    this cycle will make ya grow i just don't like the cycle length and why wouldn't ya use tren in the start of cycle with ur testosterone suspension, I know i would! anyways were all different and react different, but I'm just throwing my 2 cents out there!

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    God dam that's a little crazy for my taste looks brutal though lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    No! You have to use it with the igf-1 lr3 or your dick will fall off and you'll die!!! Lmao kidding of course and welcome to MC and of course you can run this cycle without the igf! I wouldn't but that's just me ��
    I really appreciate the reply, I come from a small bodybuilding forum here in SA where I am from, it's not big enough yet to get all the help one needs.

    I am interested in doing:

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily

    But what about PCT ? I am so noob with PCT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    this cycle will make ya grow i just don't like the cycle length and why wouldn't ya use tren in the start of cycle with ur testosterone suspension, I know i would! anyways were all different and react different, but I'm just throwing my 2 cents out there!

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    i really like this on presser nice
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    I really appreciate the reply, I come from a small bodybuilding forum here in SA where I am from, it's not big enough yet to get all the help one needs.

    I am interested in doing:

    Testosterone Propionate 200mg every other day
    Trenbolone Acetate 100mg every other day
    Winny 50mg daily

    But what about PCT ? I am so noob with PCT
    bro, thats an absolutely Beautiful cycle! As for pct, depends how long you plan on staying on this cycle? But i would certainly have everything ready to go, HCG, clomid, nolvadex, etc…..
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    hmm strange shit trying to post in this thread, anyone having issues loading this thread??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    bro, thats an absolutely Beautiful cycle! As for pct, depends how long you plan on staying on this cycle? But i would certainly have everything ready to go, HCG, clomid, nolvadex, etc…..
    I'm looking at 6 weeks...

    Isn't Tren like dangerously hardcore?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    I'm looking at 6 weeks...

    Isn't Tren like dangerously hardcore?
    dangerously hardcore, NO! …..Potent and to be used properly and respected….YES!

    and 6 week cycle of this stack is a waste of time bro! no point in it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    dangerously hardcore, NO! …..Potent and to be used properly and respected….YES!

    and 6 week cycle of this stack is a waste of time bro! no point in it!
    But going 12 weeks just feel so... Steroidy, I only recently ventured into this moral playing field.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Lets say for arguments sake:

    what would a 6 weeks cycle and PCT dosage look like?

    also

    what would a 12 weeks cycle and PCT dosage look like?

    ( All the every other day pins... That looks like a shiat load of needles)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    But going 12 weeks just feel so... Steroidy, I only recently ventured into this moral playing field.
    lol, then maybe you should take up racket ball lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    But going 12 weeks just feel so... Steroidy, I only recently ventured into this moral playing field.

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    Lets say for arguments sake:

    what would a 6 weeks cycle and PCT dosage look like?

    also

    what would a 12 weeks cycle and PCT dosage look like?


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    This is what a 6 week cycle would look like-------->

    And the 12 week cycle would look exactly how you laid it out to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    This is what a 6 week cycle would look like-------->

    And the 12 week cycle would look exactly how you laid it out to begin with
    Was more referring to the PCT part, I am not entirely sure what PCT involves when the appropriate times are etc. I know what to use, just not sure when and dosage etc.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobly View Post
    Was more referring to the PCT part, I am not entirely sure what PCT involves when the appropriate times are etc. I know what to use, just not sure when and dosage etc.
    you missed the point, i know you were asking about pct, and my arrow was pointing to NOTHING for the pct for a 6 week cycle, cause a 6 week cycle is pointless, thus pct is as well,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    you missed the point, i know you were asking about pct, and my arrow was pointing to NOTHING for the pct for a 6 week cycle, cause a 6 week cycle is pointless, thus pct is as well,
    PCT for a 12 week cycle?
     

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    My best bulked was
    1 ml of Sust ed week 1-15
    700 mg eq week 1-15
    500 mg fina e week 1-15
    500 mg mast e 1-15
    150 mg drol ed split week 1-4
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Man View Post
    My best bulked was
    1 ml of Sust ed week 1-15
    700 mg eq week 1-15
    500 mg fina e week 1-15
    500 mg mast e 1-15
    150 mg drol ed split week 1-4
    geeeesh, 15 weeks of Fina, ill bet it was your best bulk lol
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    bumping the bulking anabolic androgenic steroid cycles top 10 cycles
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    bump
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    Bump... the bulk is coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron J View Post
    Bump... the bulk is coming
    Whats it gonna look like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Whats it gonna look like
    Thinking sust 250, deca, and drol... any suggestions or a better bulking stack, Presser? Im ready to grow brotha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron J View Post
    Thinking sust 250, deca, and drol... any suggestions or a better bulking stack, Presser? Im ready to grow brotha.
    sustanon, deca, and drol is a good bulking stack brutha!!

    my all time favorite though is

    Prop
    tren ace
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    igf-1 lr3

    and if you do the cycle u listed, you should seriously consider adding IGF-1 lr3, you will get 10X more out of your cycle!! Gauranteed!
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    I will. What's the shortest cycle you would run with the sust, deca, drol? I want to do the prop,tren, winny clen,igf-1 for summer cutting.
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    16 weeks is the shortest i would run it, only cause the deca is in there, if u had NPP (fast acting deca) then i would say 12 weeks you could get away with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron J View Post
    I will. What's the shortest cycle you would run with the sust, deca, drol? I want to do the prop,tren, winny clen,igf-1 for summer cutting.
    thats a much better bulker than the sustanon, deca , drol for the record,
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