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    Oral Turinabol is one of those substances that has gained what I would call a ‘quiet cult status’ amongst bodybuilders. It was first developed by scientists in East Germany for use by their Olympic athletes. The success achieved by those athletes is testament to its effectiveness. The fact that it was used extensively for enhancing sports performance also meant that it was subject to many trials with documented results proving very impressive.

    So what does Turinabol have to offer that is so special?

    Well it does provide good lean muscle gains and, although strength and muscle increases will not be as dramatic as with some other compounds, they will be less likely to be accompanied by water retention. This means that you are more likely to keep any gains made when coming off a cycle. In addition to this, Turinabol does not create estrogen related side effects (e.g. gynecomastia) although it is 17-alpha alkylated which means it can be toxic to the liver so it is wise to use some form of liver support when on a cycle (e.g. Silymarin, Dandelion, NAC).



    Turinabol has been described as a derivative of Dianabol although it does have a much lower level of androgenic activity. Studies have revealed it to have anywhere from 0 – 6 in terms of androgenic effects and 53 for anabolic effects (based on a score of 100 each for testosterone). This means that it will not give you the bloated, puffy look often observed by those who use Dianabol. In fact, many users have compared it to Anavar in terms of results.

    SIDE EFFECTS

    Negative side effects are rare with this substance and are usually the result of using cycles that are either too long or too high in dosage. The aforementioned risk of liver toxicity and a lowering of the clotting ability of the blood are the only things to really look out for. It has also been implicated as regards the lowering of natural testosterone levels – but once again this is generally dose related. There have been reports of women suffering more adverse side effects than men when using this substance, however these reactions occurred in women who were taking almost double the amount taken by their male counterparts…so of course they would get more side effects!

    DOSAGE

    It has been recommended that men should take between 20-40mg every day and women 5-10mg/day. However, in real life terms male bodybuilders usually prefer an amount of 0.4mg per pound of bodyweight.
    One of the many interesting things about Turinabol is its ability to reduce SHBG’s binding to other steroids, which leads to the freeing up of more testosterone in the body. For this reason many athletes find it a valuable accompaniment to any cycle – particularly those involving the use of testosterone. The fact that Turinabol is not associated with aromatization (i.e. conversion to estrogen) also adds to its attractiveness.

    All in all, when you consider the fact that it produces little in the way of troublesome side effects (when used in reasonable dosages) and produces a high quality gain in muscle mass over time, Turinabol is definitely worth considering as part of an effective cycle. Even used on its own it will definitely produce a noticeable improvement in mass and strength. The gains will not be astounding but they will be more easily maintained since the improvements made on Turinabol are not an illusion created by water weight
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    solid read for newbies and the recent talk on this substance
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    Good read. I love tbol
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    i know 2 women who love tbol turinabol and say its much better than even anavar for them as far as side effects go. not sure what their cycle dosages consist of but i do know both females are pretty jacked!

    I know we have a chick here who was reviewing turinabol here just a couple weeks ago, said she absolutely loved it!
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    turinabol tbol instead of dianabol article on how its less androgenic and much better for lean low water retention steroid cycles.

    pretty solid
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    Bump, good info!
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    Are the liver toxicity issues any worse than any other 17aa aas? I'm into the idea of using it vs dbol since I have gyno issues as it is but everyone seems to claim that tbol wrecks your liver.
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    The wife was on 10'mg tbol and did very well with it and no sides
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by FooterDan View Post
    Are the liver toxicity issues any worse than any other 17aa aas? I'm into the idea of using it vs dbol since I have gyno issues as it is but everyone seems to claim that tbol wrecks your liver.
    i dont know that i ever thought of turinabol tbol as being more liver toxic than say dianabol dbol.
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    I love tbol. My favorite oral by far
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I love tbol. My favorite oral by far
    how do you compare dianabol to turinabol tbol? I just asked someone in another thread, masher i think it was, but i have not taken turinabol in some time, and i think the shit i had wasnt actually tbol at all, it seemed like dianabol, and i was likely hustled lol, it was ages ago though so who knows.

    anyhow curious what you think is the difference between them
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    It's been a big two weeks for dehydrochlormethyltestosterone. On April 14, Phillies' pitcher Daniel Stumpf was suspended 80 games for testing positive for Turinabol, the retail name of dehydrochlormethyltestosterone. Just eight days later, on Friday, Blue Jays first baseman Chris Colabello was suspended for the same drug for 80 games without pay, as well. In a statement released through the Major League Baseball Players Association, Colabello vehemently denies he did anything wrong, and has no idea how this happened. Stumpf, who debuted in the majors just this year, did not release a statement, but the Phillies released one saying that they were "disappointed" about the situation, which sounds eerily like what a parent would say.

    So what is Turnibol? The Canadian Press broke it down in detail. It's a steroid that's best used to assist recovery, like, say, from a long and grueling 162-game baseball season. It originated in East Germany in the 1960s, and in the 70s and 80s was given to East German Olympic athletes. However, it's apparently gone out of style since then and is hard to find these days. Additionally, it's not injected like many of the steroids used today -- it's taken orally. That makes accidental ingestion possible, but also not terribly likely. Accidental or unintentional ingestion is what Colabello's statement is pointing toward, and Big League Stew's Israel Fehr reported that Colabello could be joining forces with UFC fighter Frank Mir, who was also recently suspended for Turnibol (and similarly has no idea how he ingested it), to figure out what happened.


    One of the biggest questions to come from these suspensions is: why is this happening now? Turinabol is an old steroid, it's not a fancy test dodging drug that some players take today (or attempt to). It will show up on tests, and taking it when you could be tested is not a smart thing to do. Although, to be fair, taking any PEDs when they're banned is already not a smart thing to do. There could possibly be more to this story, and with Colabello and Mir making a public issue of their positive tests, we probably haven't heard the last of this.
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    MLB Baseball Dopers’ New Drug Turinabol or tbol Is an Old One Used by East Germany


    The list of players who have been suspended by Major League Baseball since 2005 for taking banned substances is 42 pages long, and it includes a passel of pharmacological quick fixes like boldenone, clenbuterol, formestane and stanozolol.

    But recently, three players — the major leaguers Daniel Stumpf of the Phillies and Chris Colabello of the Blue Jays and the minor leaguerKameron Loe — were suspended for taking Turinabol, an anabolic steroid straight out of a doping time machine.

    The drug, whose chemical compound is dehydrochlormethyltestosterone, was widely used by athletes in East Germany. Developed in the 1960s by Jenapharm, an East German drug company, Turinabol became a foundation of the East German sports machine that rivaled the United States and the Soviet Union for medal supremacy at the Winter and Summer Olympics in the 1970s and 1980s.

    But after the collapse of the Soviet bloc, Turinabol largely disappeared, and antidoping experts do not know any major pharmaceutical company that produces the drug.

    Yet athletes have found a way to get their hands on the drug, which can help muscles retain protein to build or repair them, and more player suspensions for the drug may be announced in the coming weeks, according to a person with knowledge of baseball’s antidoping program.

    Baseball, though, has only just started to catch players using Turinabol. Officials monitoring wrestling, weight lifting and other sports have been catching athletes using the drug in recent years. Last year, 11 of the 17 athletes suspended at the world weight lifting championships in Houstonwere found to have taken Turinabol, and they came from Azerbaijan, Belarus, Greece, Kazakhstan, Moldova and Russia.

    “It is a relative epidemic, and this is not only North America,” said Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the director of the Montreal Doping Control Laboratory. “It might have started in the former Eastern bloc countries.”
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    Turinabol was developed in the 1960s by Jenapharm, an East German drug company.CreditMatthias Rietschel/Associated Press
    Antidoping experts believe unscrupulous chemists in the United States may be creating the drug or, more likely, it is being imported. Dr. Don Catlin, an antidoping pioneer in the United States who ran the drug testing lab at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics, said Turinabol was easily obtainable online. He added that it was contained as a labeled ingredient in at least one supplement that can be bought off-the-shelf. It is also possible that the steroid is contained as an unlabeled product in a supplement, he said.
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    “I suspect somebody got a big supply of it somewhere and has been distributing it among friends and neighbors,” Catlin said. “One guy gets it and feels it’s working and tells all his buddies. Next thing you know, you’ve got a miniepidemic.”

    That Turinabol has shown up in supplements sold in America means some athletes may have unwittingly taken the drug. To be safe, Canadian authorities have warned their Olympic athletes to stay away from supplements sold in the United States, said Dr. Bob McCormack, the chief medical officer of the Canadian Olympic team.
    “A high percentage of the raw materials for supplements come from China, where there is poor quality control, and there is a powerful lobby in the U.S. to combat oversight, so we tell athletes in Canada not to take U.S. supplements,” he said.

    Although Turinabol proved infamously effective as an East German steroid, Catlin said, it does not clear the body quickly and is easily detectable. For years, it did not appear to be in widespread international use. An average of four to six positive tests were recorded annually by the 35 labs of the World Anti-Doping Agency, Catlin said. Then the number spiked to 73 in 2013, before lowering again to 17 in 2014 and 14 in 2015, he said, citing WADA statistics.

    “These things come and go,” Catlin said. But he added, “To think just because it’s old means you can’t detect it is nonsense.”

    In fact, one reason for the spike in suspensions is, like a cat-and-mouse game, antidoping authorities have found more sophisticated ways of testing for the drug. In 2012, Tim Sobolevsky and Grigory Rodchenkov published a paper in the Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology that outlined a more effective test for Turinabol.
    Since then, antidoping groups and sports leagues have updated their tests to better detect the drug. Turinabol had been on Major League Baseball’s banned list for years, but the league updated its testing techniques to look for the drug in 2014 as part of an annual review of its drug testing protocol.

    But it will take time for word to get around. The baseball players recently caught using Turinabol may not have been aware of its East German provenance, Catlin said, or they didn’t care. “The side effects are horrendous, particularly to women,” he said. “But male baseball players probably don’t give a damn.”Ayotte, the director of the Montreal Doping Control Laboratory, said the number of positive tests for Turinabol will start to drop as athletes realize that leagues and associations are doing a better job of looking for the drug.

    Few players, if any, may know that the state-sponsored doping system in East Germany was known by the euphemism Supporting Means, and involved as many as 10,000 athletes. Oral-Turinabol was often given to unsuspecting athletes, including teenagers and children, who were told that the blue pills were vitamins.
    A number of former East German athletes have said that they developed chronic health problems, believed to be related to taking massive amounts of Turinabol. In 2006, Jenapharm agreed to pay 184 former East German athletes about $12,000 each, while the German Olympic Committee agreed to pay 170 athletes the same amount.
    Perhaps the most extreme case involving Turinabol use was that of Heidi Krieger, who won the women’s shot put at the 1986 European track and field championships. In a 2004 interview with The New York Times, Krieger said that the taking of steroids created virile features and heightened confusion about her already uncertain gender identity. In 1997, Krieger underwent sexual-reassignment surgery and is now known as Andreas Krieger.
    The fact that the drug is now so easily detected is why Victor Conte, who ran the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative lab in Northern California that figured into a widespread doping scandal more than a decade ago, wrote on his Twitter account that the knowing use of Turinabol was “dumber than dumb.”

    Steven Ungerleider, the author of “Faust’s Gold,” a book about the East German doping system, said the emergence of Turinabol in baseball was “a little odd.”
    “There’s a zillion other ways more sophisticated” to use banned substances and avoid detection, said Ungerleider, a sports psychologist in Eugene, Ore. “Why would anyone go back to using that? But people do crazy things.”

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    Great information on Turinabol or tbol
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    I like how everything is an epidemic... The black plaque wipes out half of Europe:epidemic. A fraction of baseball athlete's which are a fraction of professional athletes which are a fraction of a fraction of society use tbol: epidemic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FooterDan View Post
    I like how everything is an epidemic... The black plaque wipes out half of Europe:epidemic. A fraction of baseball athlete's which are a fraction of professional athletes which are a fraction of a fraction of society use tbol: epidemic...

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    lmao, so true and so sad! media malfunction man! They dont report the news, they make the news, and then try making their stories more important than they are to turn heads, grab attention and hopefully someone will pay attention to them and their Bullshit stories! They said highschool kids using steroids was an epidemic yars ago and turned out to be what we all knew, BS.

    Anyhow, bumping some solid Turinabol Tbol information for everyone to compare to what they likely have already used in Dianabol dbol!
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    Bump, good info!
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