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Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione anti-estrogen & anti-cortisol profile - androsta androsta 3 5 diene 7 17 dione
androsta androsta 3 5 diene 7 17 dione
This is being marketed as an Armoatase Inhibitor (AI) and cortisol inhibitor.
It's a metabolite of 7-Keto DHEA. The usual dosage of 7 Keto is 100-200mg, but this is not 7 Keto, it is 7 Keto DHEA. They're different.
This from Patrick Arnold. "The whole family of 7-oxygenated dhea metabolites are fascinating compounds, for many reasons other than aromatase inhibition. The compound under discussion here is not a major metabolite though, and so its very unlikely you could acheive therapeutic drug levels in your body by ingesting any reasonable amount of 7-keto"
From all the research I did, it would appear as though the jury is still out on this as far as to whether or not it actually does what the marketers claim. There were some in vitro (lab test) that show AI properties, but no studies yet as to whether or not it translates into real life.
Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione is a metabolite of 7-Keto-DHEA.* It is a suicide inhibitor which exhibits a strong binding affinity for the aromatase enzyme and is purported to be stronger than ATD, 6-OXO, and even Aromasin which is exemestane.* The ketone in the seventh position denoted by 7-keto contributes an added benefit over the previously mentioned AI’s.* This ketone helps to reduce cortisol, decreasing cortisol can increase muscle mass, decrease body fat, and further elevate testosterone levels.* The anti-estrogen activity accompanied by the anti-cortisol activity both contribute toward elevated testosterone levels, increased muscle mass, and decreased body fat.
The characteristics of Estrozole not only make it a great stand-alone supplement for boosting testosterone and decreasing cortisol, but make it perfect for post cycle therapy (PCT).* Androsta-3,5-diene-3,17-dione does not convert into metabolites which negatively interfere with HPTA, adding to its benefit during PCT.* After taking a steroid or prohormone cycle the body’s natural testosterone levels have diminished due to the hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular-axis (HPTA) interference from the application of exogenous hormones.* The decreased testosterone levels can also be accompanied by excessive** Cortisol levels are suppressed during a cycle and can rebound post cycle.* Estrozole “kills two birds with one stone” by correcting both of these issues. Testosterone will increase and estrogen will decrease, which will assist with stabilization of sex hormone levels back to a normal state.** The suppression of cortisol will prevent unwanted body fat and loss of muscle which can also occur post cycle.* Estrozole’s versatility does not stop there; it can also be used during a cycle to prevent water retention, aromatization, and decreases in natural testosterone levels.*
I've used this a handful, while I'd stick to traditional aromatase inhibitor aka AI's on cycle but this is good solo or as part of PCT!
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I haved used it a few times actually. But never as a solo pct, either with or after my SERMs.
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I use it all the time.
It's getting harder to find otc!
I get less water, stress levels do go down.
I get a better look similar to Proviron.
And I get woods more often everytime I lay down at night!!
Most I find has DIM and a couple other things added...
I grab s couple bottles off shelf at spots that have it.
Got 2 from my local Academy couple months back fresh out ATM.
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Used it recently old bottle of it from Olympic. I used it with gh it was outdated by a year. But didn't seem to matter. Like MM said it is similar to proviron. Few places carry it most are out. Some are labeled as pcts 100mg of it works well. The lower stress helps very well, I'm stressed out a bit from my day to day. Def helps lean you out w. Or w.o gh haha.
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Few companies still have it but it's difficult to find. I can't recall the site i seen it on. But it had 25mg per tab and a few other things like milk thistle and other anti estrogens or test booster can't recall.Muscle mechanic liked this post
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08-28-2018, 02:58 PM #8
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I think that’s the same as vmi arimistane I’ve used it a few times. Still have a bottle that I was thinking of using again. On my trt blood test my total and free test went up.
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It's around.
It's modified 7keto.
Being they have put pressure on steroid molecules think people are just afraid to carry it even though not one of them I don't think???
It's available online and thru raw producers as well.
Smaller supp shops carry brands similar to what u mentioned but they are way too expensive.. lol
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Yes it was branded as Arimistane By PES as Erase. I like i alot I can lower or do away with AI on TRT dose and I have seen bloods that it lowers estro safely.
Not saying to use it as AI, but for me it takes place on trt and non-aromatasing runs....
Another I liked was ADT, it did something for me. It's related to Aromasin, ADT is...
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Same price I pay for Aromasin which is my prefered AI. Most like you said have a bunch of added stuff, which is kind of unnecessary to me but ok. I used to use this while cutting naturally or while on SARM or as a pct to sarms it performs well. Can also be used with a low dose of HCG for those inbetween cycles or blasts. I used hcg at 250iu 3x a week for 6 weeks along with 75mg of this and 25mg osta it was an experiment worked well actually Much cheaper than gh haha but h has proven very very beneficial for me. Once I shook out the issues.
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Supp shop has one with the androsta supp AI and 17-laxogen and osta all in one like 79 bucks!!
I used it in TRT dose thru labs and MC osta thru labs and lgd
So I have lab work from last July posted here on LGD... all was good!!!
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