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    Default How to take HGH. Human Growth Hormone Dosages and protocol

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    Basic guide to HGH doses and protocol.

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    Ok, so where do I start. There are so many retarded questions out there regaurding HGH use that it hurts my eyes to constantly read them. It seems that GH is the new popular thing to do. Not because it is a miracle drug, but because it is more easily available, and all the big guys are using it. Saldy, this doesnt mean these new users are using it correctly. I see more and more users trying to save money by taking baby doses, while using some rediculous protocol to simply save money. Yet, they are expecting unrealistic gains while doing so. Sorry guys, stretching 2 kits to last you 4 months isnt going to do much of anything for you, and will end up being a waste...unless you are an HRT patient and not looking for athletic benefit. It comes down to this: If you want to see gains from HGH, you are going to have to spend the cash, and there is no way around it.

    Dosages:

    Dosages should be based on personal goals, and how far one is willing to go to take it to the next level. As a bodybuilder, there are simple basics. For fatloss and dieting, smaller doses of around 3-5 will do. Dont expect spectacular results in terms of fatloss. The more you use, the greater the results. If it is fatloss you are looking for, then maybe Clen and T3 would be a cheaper option that will produce better results. If you are looking to simply stay leaner in the offseason, then HGH can be more usefull.

    If it is mass you are looking for from HGH, you had better be ready to fork over a good amount of cash. Larger doses are necessary, and maily in conjunction with insulin. Doses used for mass start at about 8iu of good HGH, and work their way up to as much as you can afford to be blunt. I feel that 8-10iu of good GH is realistic and not an overexaggeration. I have used upto 30iu daily with good results. I know pro's that use or have used even more. The insulin needs to be encorperated to get maximum benefit from your hefty dose of HGH. Maily to create that large IGF-1 burst. Insulin needs to be present when the GH passes the liver for optimal IGF-1 production.

    Protocol:

    This is what really bugs me. People coming up with some stupid protocol and following it without any doubt simply because it will save them some cash by stretching out the little amount of HGH they have purchased.

    We have the rediculous 5/2 protocol. Where did this come from? Let me answer... internet board members came up with it mainly to save some cash by taking 2 days off of their GH use at the end of the week. Why? To save money, and they backed it up with a poor excuse for a theory to make it look like a legit protocol. The theory behind taking 2 days off at the end of the week are so that your body can take a break and produce naturally...kinda. Well, ok...except this doesnt go along with the negative feedback loup of exogenous HGH use! Your body will be producing naturally daily anyway...the loup only lasts hours...not days. What it comes down to is a poor excuse for a protocol designed to save some money, with little to no scientific evidence to back it up. Not to mention that most people using this protocol are using smaller doses anyway.

    We have Gavin Kane type protocol. Mainly injections are done PWO 3 times a week, using a hefty dose of HGH...your weekly doses split into 3 larger doses. Example would be if you are using 8iu/ed for mass, it would equal 56iu weekly. It would come out to just under 20iu 3 times a week. This is also used in conjunction with insulin and IGF-1. This protocol seems to work well for a good amount of people, and the theory backing it is somewhat sound...which I will not get into...as this is supposed to be a simple guide. The sad thing is that alot of people try to manipulate and twist this protocol to fit their budget, and it doesnt work that way. Sorry, but using 6iu 3 times a week just isnt going to cut it...in any case. I feel this protocol best fits you guys that are using a DC style training where you are only hitting the gym a few times a week.

    We have the basic diet protocol. Taking your HGH upon rising, at a dose of 3-5iu every day. Granted, the less you use, the less you will see. No need to take days off, as it's not that much GH and you are really looking for optimal fatloss and body composition. Too many people are using dumb doses like 1-2iu, which is nothing more than an HRT dose for my 90 year old grandma.

    A basic mass protocol that has been used over the years is taking your high dose of 8iu+/pwo in conjunction with insulin. Taking it IM will ensure speedy peak levels and faster IGF-1 production. Since that is what we want after a workout while our IGF-1 receptors are ready to roll. This way you can ensure a good amount of fresh IGF-1 floating around when you need it most. This protocol best suits those of you training almost all week, with the occasional day off for recovery. Taking a day off HGH when administering high doses can be beneficial, to give your IGF-1 receptors a break. Besides, levels will still be raised regairdless. This day off should also be your day off trianing used for recovery. It is not needed, and manily comes down to personal preferance.

    Every day mass protocol would be the same as the diet protocol, only with a higher dose. Insulin is also a good idea for maximum benefit and gains for obvious reason. Tried and true.

    There is also an EOD protocol that you dont hear about often. A while back there was a study posted that taking HGH EOD at double your daily dose provided the same results with less antibodies. Now, this study had to do with children, but you get the point. I think this protocol would only be good for mass gains, and not beneficial for dieting. An example would be if you were taking 8iu daily for mass, then instead you would be taking 16iu/EOD. Simple as that.

    I have noticed that some people use their GH on a daily basis, but pre-workout instead of post. Theory behind this is that when using subq injections, levels wont peak for a while...primarily after their workouts. The problem I see with this is that a good chunk of insulin should be present when the GH passes the liver for optimal IGF-1 production. It's hard to manipulate it this way, so why not just take it PWO using IM injection followed by insulin injection or spike.

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    Interesting...I have some thoughts, but I'll post them later. Need to read through it some more.
     

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    not a bad read i guess, i do however agree that you need to take alot more i.u. then alot of guys are posting they use now, i have always said that 2 -3 i.u protocal was a waist

    and i think 6.i.u os good hgh is fine and more obviously if u can
     

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    Im having a difficult time figuring out proper dosage based on the "pen"
    I am a 34 y/o female. I have been working as a (AFAA and NASM Cert) trainer on and off since 1997.
    A few years ago I was training for my first figure comp and I tore my left meniscus and have never been able to get back to training for comp again. I now have a torn larbum in my left hip.
    I was able to get a huge supply of Nutropin (totally legit from a prescription) and I want to use it to try to heal some injuries, battle other health issues HGH is reportedly known for, increase lean muscle mass and lose some very stubborn fat.
    I have my blood tested 2x a year. I do not have any underlying health problems that would interfere with HGH.
    I currently am on a Dr, monitored 1200 cal per day diet, I do cardio 3x a week (thats all I am able to stand with this hip injury) I lift and eat relatively clean but certainly not on a strict contest diet.
    I have taken vars in the past with good results and I have tried wins on two occasions and experienced severe water GAIN both times.
    I am currently 5'6" 170lb 29%BF. I am most comfortable and look my best at 145-150, 22% BF. If I go lower than that I look too skinny, I am a very curvy and muscular girl and like to keep it that way.

    The nutropin pens are 5mg/2ml and you can dial .1,.2,.3,.4,.5...up to 1.7 per injection.
    The last time we had this prescription my BF was taking .4 ED before bed time with some good results. Since he is a big dude I figured .2 would be appropriate for me but I am having trouble finding anyone on the boards who is 1. Female and 2. using the pen so I don't know how to properly calculate dosage.

    Hopefully someone can please post here, or msg me privately.

    Oh and please if you don't have anything helpful to say, keep your negativity to yourself.
     

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    Welcome to MC and ill bump this for others to see and who might know as I'm unfamiliar with the pen and those doses

    you might also wanna start a new thread in main forum with this question so people see it and can respond properly as its kind of hidden in this article thread
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    Nice read , but how slin do you run with hgh? Ratio? 1-1?
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    Default How to take HGH. Human Growth Hormone Dosages and protocol

    Do the clicks on the pen not correlate with IU or mg's? There has to be some thing say that there are X iu's per pen...
    My wife Silk has a log going with her run on GH. Very slow results thus far
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    Quote Originally Posted by BklynCherryBomb View Post
    Im having a difficult time figuring out proper dosage based on the "pen"
    I am a 34 y/o female. I have been working as a (AFAA and NASM Cert) trainer on and off since 1997.
    A few years ago I was training for my first figure comp and I tore my left meniscus and have never been able to get back to training for comp again. I now have a torn larbum in my left hip.
    I was able to get a huge supply of Nutropin (totally legit from a prescription) and I want to use it to try to heal some injuries, battle other health issues HGH is reportedly known for, increase lean muscle mass and lose some very stubborn fat.
    I have my blood tested 2x a year. I do not have any underlying health problems that would interfere with HGH.
    I currently am on a Dr, monitored 1200 cal per day diet, I do cardio 3x a week (thats all I am able to stand with this hip injury) I lift and eat relatively clean but certainly not on a strict contest diet.
    I have taken vars in the past with good results and I have tried wins on two occasions and experienced severe water GAIN both times.
    I am currently 5'6" 170lb 29%BF. I am most comfortable and look my best at 145-150, 22% BF. If I go lower than that I look too skinny, I am a very curvy and muscular girl and like to keep it that way.

    The nutropin pens are 5mg/2ml and you can dial .1,.2,.3,.4,.5...up to 1.7 per injection.
    The last time we had this prescription my BF was taking .4 ED before bed time with some good results. Since he is a big dude I figured .2 would be appropriate for me but I am having trouble finding anyone on the boards who is 1. Female and 2. using the pen so I don't know how to properly calculate dosage.

    Hopefully someone can please post here, or msg me privately.

    Oh and please if you don't have anything helpful to say, keep your negativity to yourself.
    I just got home from vacation and I'm exhausted but wanted to say hi and welcome to MC. I started a GH log about 5 weeks ago. Like The Dude said, results are slow. If you want to check it out the log is called SilkQuads GH log...or something like that. Maybe you'll see something that helps you and I'd love to read your log (if you start one) to compare notes. Hope you find the info you're lookin for
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    1mg = 3iu so your pens are 15iu each
     

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    I dont want to be a gerk, but all i just did to check on myself was go you Nutropin web page and found answere in maybe 10 seconds. It said 5mg pens =15iu. In your HUGE amount of perscription pens theres any paperwork?
     

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    I had stem cell on my neck, shoulder, lower back, and torn groin. I've done a few cycles but consider myself a novice. My doc prescribed me test cyp 200 1cc every five days and a couple HGH pens (the goods). I'm 32 and he has me injecting EOD. Obviously the idea is to strengthen using body weight and then light weight. I weigh 190 and am 6'0. It's the Norditropin Flexpro 5 mg/1.5 ml and he has me injecting 7mg EOD. Any suggestions? Would it be better to do 3.5 MG ED?? How many iu does that translate too. I always got my growth from friends and measured in IUs in the past. You're not joking about expensive. $875 for two pins which last a half month each on that does. Not bragging but money is no object when it comes to my health though.... Although money won't buy you time I'm the gym, just makes it more productive time
     

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    So 3iu per mg I'm taking 21iu EOD. Why do you think my dr prescribed it that way?? I'd dosed it ED when I self prescribed 5 years ago and mixed it w test and Deca after my rotator cuff and labrum repair... But id suggest looking into stem cell and PRP for anyone w an injury. 3 days I went from 50% to 98% mobility. But since it's illegal in us to inject HGH with it like they do in Europe, make sure you get a dr willing to prescribe hormones for optimal results. Not just inject and boot u out
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayrussel22 View Post
    I had stem cell on my neck, shoulder, lower back, and torn groin. I've done a few cycles but consider myself a novice. My doc prescribed me test cyp 200 1cc every five days and a couple HGH pens (the goods). I'm 32 and he has me injecting EOD. Obviously the idea is to strengthen using body weight and then light weight. I weigh 190 and am 6'0. It's the Norditropin Flexpro 5 mg/1.5 ml and he has me injecting 7mg EOD. Any suggestions? Would it be better to do 3.5 MG ED?? How many iu does that translate too. I always got my growth from friends and measured in IUs in the past. You're not joking about expensive. $875 for two pins which last a half month each on that does. Not bragging but money is no object when it comes to my health though.... Although money won't buy you time I'm the gym, just makes it more productive time
    yeah thats pretty steep for some hgh but im sure its some good hgh lol.
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    good read, I'm adding this to articles forum
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    Good information here people.
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