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    Q: Is trenbolone progestagenic? Or does trenbolone increase prolactin? A friend did a cycle of 500 mg/week testosterone plus 500 mg/week trenbolone enanthate and got gyno, when previously hed done just the testosterone and did fine. This has me concerned about trenbolone.

    A: Trenbolone has near zero progestational activity, as found both in veterinary science and in cell studies. Its activation of the progesterone receptor (PR) is about 100 times weaker than that of progesterone itself. Trenbolone levels achieved during steroid cycles cannot activate the PR to even a small fraction as much as is caused by natural progesterone levels.

    At least one veterinary study also found trenbolone to not increase prolactin measurably, despite depressing thyroid levels.

    In your friends cycle, prolactin may well have increased. Where an aromatizing steroid is used and estrogen levels are not controlled with an anti-aromatase, estradiol levels typically rise. This often but not always causes an increase in prolactin, and sometimes a large increase.

    Its impossible to determine why gynecomastia developed for your friend this time but not on the previous occasion, particularly as no blood test was performed. Uncontrolled increase in estrogen due would certainly have contributed. Elevated prolactin caused by increased estrogen could be a contributor.

    Authentic trenbolone actually works against estrogenic differentiation of the mammary gland, or at least this has been found in veterinary science.

    It can be difficult to attribute cause when gyno occurs during trenbolone cycles. Sometimes, as in this cycle, other causes could completely explain it. In others, the trenbolone product seems the only possible cause.

    When veterinary and pharmaceutical preparations were the only sources of trenbolone, gyno was never attributed to this steroid. It also appears never to occur when trenbolone is personally prepared from Finaplix H (not S.) For this reason, I doubt that authentic trenbolone can cause gyno.

    However, underground preparations sold as trenbolone have promoted gyno in many cases. Whether this is due to substitution, oxidation of the material, or some other reason is unknown to me. Id advise personally preparing from powder, having verified that the powder is moderately yellow, not brown, and is strongly spicy to the taste. This will at least make it highly likely that the product contains trenbolone. Another alternative is to prepare personally from Finaplix H. Doing so allows absolute certainty.
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    So test was responsible for gyno in this case or cycle?
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    thats what it sounded like to me, the testosterone conversion to estrogen and the estrogen spike cause the progest to rise equally, at least thats what i think i read

    and i would like to say ....respectfully of course.......and in veterinary terms.......HORSE SHIT!

    TREN ACE AND PROLACTIN GO HAND AND HAND IN MY OPINION
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    TREN ACE AND PROLACTIN GO HAND AND HAND IN MY OPINION
    In 5 to 10 years from now they will have a study the will show this very thing, it just hasn't come out yet............Everyone in the "know" KNOWS THE TRUTH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post

    and i would like to say ....respectfully of course.......and in veterinary terms.......HORSE SHIT!

    TREN ACE AND PROLACTIN GO HAND AND HAND IN MY OPINION
    Technical terms, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post

    TREN ACE AND PROLACTIN GO HAND AND HAND IN MY OPINION
    They do. I just posted an article about it, you'll like this one!
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    Gyno related problem from tren are far harder to control than estrogen related gyno in my experience. great topic though as i do not think most guys realize that their puffy nipples or gyno issues that start to surface when on a cycle are from the tren or the deca, as most guys are also running their testosterone as the base of the cycle and assume its estrogen related from the testosterone. By the time they figure it out when after trying nolvadex, and arimidex and such it too late when they get around to using caborgoline or whatver else they might finally get to help with progesterone / prolactin
     

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    cabor is a must when running high deca or tren. I think this may also help the dreaded "deca dick" as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    cabor is a must when running high deca or tren. I think this may also help the dreaded "deca dick" as well.
    All i know is once you get deca dick, it takes months on end to reverse the issue. For me anyhow! Hasnt happened in years but im sure it would again if i let it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    cabor is a must when running high deca or tren. I think this may also help the dreaded "deca dick" as well.
    I always have people who are worried or gyno prone use 1/2mg of CABER 2X per week using TREN,DECA,NPP
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    Its not so easy to come by either. Truth be told our Anti-P - dostinex we make almost zero profit on. lol. Shits expensive! But we figure we might as well offer it as most customers buy more, $202 on average per order. I hate when guys just order it alone though lol
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