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    Fact of the matter is many many ladies still come to men for advice on how to use steroids. Unfortunately most men don't have a clue and choose NOT to give advice but some others do give advice and it's not always good advice. There are, however, a few men that know what they are talking about when it comes to steroid use for women.

    Guys...if you want to advise your woman on how to take gear then you better listen up or you could cause a lot of androgenic sides and she won't be pleased with that at all. I am a firm believer that women must do their own research on what they intend on putting in their bodies.

    Women need to be fully aware of their goals BEFORE using gear. If they have the genetics to compete at the national level and WANT TO then they need to know that fairly heavy steroid use is REQUIRED if they are going to stand a chance in Hell of winning anything. Steroid choice for these women should still be primarily limited to the milder androgens but the doses higher and stacking more common.

    MOST ladies are recreational lifters or minor competitors and do not have the genetics nor the interest in "going all the way" The advice below is geared towards these women and those that want to compete at local and perhas state events and at a high level in "fitness" competitions"


    ADVICE ON ESTERS


    Avoid deca as nandrolone phenylprop is safer as one can "bail out" of a cycle if sides get bad. If you must use test use prop, for the same reason.
    Be aware that Primo is almost always faked and that even if it is real it is in a long acting etser. EQ is also in a long acting ester.
    If bad sides come on you
    MAY
    be able to bail out of a cycle with short acting/clearing injectables or running a mild duretic.

    THE BIGGEST MISTAKES WOMEN MAKE

    #1.Many women do not understand that IM steroids are much more bioavailable than oral steroids and as such doses should be lowered"

    #2. "Stacking" is not needed for all but the advanced competitor and can lead to excessive doses and androgenic sides" Always try each of the steroids that you want to use separately before trying to stack.

    #3. "Too much too soon PEROID!"


    WHERE TO START

    I recommend 10mg of Var a day in two-three divided doses for 12 weeks as a beginning cycle. Nice beginners drug and can yield good results in conjuction with a good diet and training regimen.

    SIDE NOTE


    Some ladies will react worse to androgens than others so START SMALL. Some can get away with quite a lot of gear and some can only use small amounts without bothersome sides.

    * Some women react differently to the milder androgens, so some experimentation and selective tinkering may be in order.

    Don't take this advice as "gospel". This is just some general good advice for most women as there are no rules in this game.



     

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    Another very important key to remember- our advice is directional but members look for real life experiences.
    Everybody is different- and even more different between men and women.
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    This is an important post and one that hits home close because, years ago, a good friend of mine followed her Boyfriends advice and he pretty much turned her into something, physically, she's very unhappy with.

    Education is like blood and air.

    It's important that people in general understand the possibilities both good and bad.
     

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    n.v.s. you mentioned for a women competing at a national level using heavy, but i thought that it was like baseball and they checked for drugs in your system when competing ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel
    n.v.s. you mentioned for a women competing at a national level using heavy, but i thought that it was like baseball and they checked for drugs in your system when competing ?

    Noel, it depends on the federation. The National Physique Committee (NPC), is the only road to the International Federation of Bodybuilders (IFBB) and those are non tested shows.

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    huh, i never new that, !
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel
    huh, i never new that, !

    You keep asking questions and you'd be surprised how much you can learn from everyone on here!


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    i am seeing that, i haave already been learning alot !
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel
    i am seeing that, i haave already been learning alot !

    Just stick around chica. I have plans for you.


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    yeahh... make me hottt !
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel
    yeahh... make me hottt !

    Oh you bet. You just stick with me long enough.


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    as long as its not like 10 years, lol ok i guess if it takes that long its not like i got anything else going on. i just want to feel good again. when i was working out all the time and eating so carefull i felt so good all the time. my energy was great, my moods were great, i looked and felt great, and now i am always feeling so run down or tired and it sucks. i am ready to change !
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel
    as long as its not like 10 years, lol ok i guess if it takes that long its not like i got anything else going on. i just want to feel good again. when i was working out all the time and eating so carefull i felt so good all the time. my energy was great, my moods were great, i looked and felt great, and now i am always feeling so run down or tired and it sucks. i am ready to change !
    THAT is what i want to hear. It will take a little time doll, but you have friends here who care about the things your want to achieve and will bust their asses right there with you to see that you get there!


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    good, now i need to get in the gym and do my part !
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