Walmart Strike

The Dude

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Jeff Landry, a Wal-Mart employee in Sapulpa, Okla., said he is joining the Black Friday protest to fight back against retaliation. He said his hours were cut after he complained to managers about his schedule.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The stage has been set for a battle between a group of Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) workers and the retailer on Black Friday.
The union-backed group OUR Walmart expects thousands of workers to participate in the protest planned this week. The employees will ask the country's largest employer to end what they call retaliation against speaking out for better pay, fair schedules and affordable health care.

Such retaliation can include shuffling around their shifts, cutting hours and moving them around departments.
Wal-Mart says that the protestors make up just a handful of its 1.3 million workforce.
In an effort to stop them, Wal-Mart filed a complaint last week with the National Labor Relations Board, claiming that the United Food and Commercial Workers Union and its subsidiary known as OURWalmart unlawfully organized picket lines and other demonstrations in the past six months. The retailer said the actions have disrupted business, and that workers' ongoing actions violate the National Labor Relations Act, which prohibits picketing for any period over 30 days without filing a petition to form a union.
Related: Why it sucks to work Black Friday
Representatives of the federal agency are currently holding talks at Wal-Mart headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas, about the complaint. Nancy Cleeland, a spokeswoman for the agency, said in an email that a decision from the agency is not expected before Thursday.
Courts won't be open that day to grant an injunction because of the Thanksgiving holiday, meaning that no action will be taken in time to block the planned Black Friday walkout.
Cleeland said there are currently about 20 charges filed against Wal-Mart stores by individual employees and OUR Walmart alleging a number of illegal acts. She wouldn't say what the specific charges are.
OUR Walmart, which gets financial backing and other support from the UFCW, says that it is specifically protesting against the company's retaliation against its employees and doesn't have specific demands tied to the Black Friday walkout.
However, in 2011, the group asked the retailer to pay workers a minimum wage of $13 per hour and to make more full-time jobs available for its part-time employees who want them. It also asked the retailer to provide affordable health care, predictable hours and to recognize freedom of speech and association.
Wal-Mart would not say what percentage of its workers are part-time, or how much they are paid on average. Tovar said that a majority of its employees are full-time workers, who get an average hourly wage of $12.40, about $5 above the federal minimum wage.
Jeff Landry, an employee in Sapulpa, Okla., plans to join the protest. He works from 4 to 9 p.m. after attending school all day. When he was scheduled for a shift during class, Landry complained. He says his managers responded by cutting his hours from 40 to below 30 a week.
This meant that Landry was no longer eligible for health care, since Wal-Mart requires workers to work an average of 30 hours per week to get benefits.
"They tried all these tactics to get rid of me," he said.

Landry has his job despite joining a walkout last month, when a protest that started at a Wal-Mart in Los Angeles spread to stores in 12 other cities.
Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar said Wal-Mart has a policy that prohibits retaliation of any kind, and investigates every allegation.
Labor law experts say that if true, the employees' claims would violate terms of the National Labor Rights Act, which protects workers against that kind of retaliation.
Angela Cornell, director of the labor law clinic at Cornell Law School, said that Wal-Mart's complaint might not work because labor laws that prohibit picketing over 30 days applies only to protestors trying to form a union or gain collective bargaining rights, not employees who are protesting against retaliation.
According to William Gould IV, who was chairman of the NLRB under President Clinton and is now a law professor at Stanford University, the law protects employees protesting employment conditions. He also said that it would be unusual for the federal agency to conclude an investigation of this size within a matter of days, or in time for Black Friday.
Both Gould and Cornell agree it is likely that the retailer is using the complaint as a way to deter workers from taking part in the walk offs.
"It appears to me that the main motivation is...to make some employees decide not to participate, even though their activities are protected," Cornell said.


First Published: November 20, 2012: 10:21 AM ET
 
I don't know where these people get the idea that they can strike. No disrespect intended, but since when is a Walmart employee considered skilled Labor?? It didn't work for Hostess so where are these people getting the idea that this will work?!
 
With all due respect, and I am glad you posted this dude, but seriously f*** Walmart. Corporate greed is all this is. I hate that store with a passion and refuse to shop there....

First and foremost I have seen it shut down many awesome private stores in my area in the past because they cannot compete with them...

Secondly they pay their employees scraps. Not to mention for years, and they still do this, they do not allow their employees to work 40 hour work weeks, therefore they are not federally mandated to supply health insurance. So they pay their employees minimum wage and no overtime and they are taxed at regular rates....and then they cannot get regular health insurance to take care of themselves and their families when they are sick...It's literally a strategy to save money and shows they dont give a shit about human needs.

So an employee, lets say makes $10 bucks an hour. x 36 hours per week. = $360 dollars...Lets say they are taxed at $25% which is low. That = $90 dollars. So they are bringing home $270 after taxes. How can they afford bare minimum of anything?? With food prices increasing, rentals are just as high if not higher, taxes are just as high, etc, etc....

And yes, regarding the job, it's not rocket science, but many of those people work very hard, Walmart is ALWAYS busy and even if you are ringing a cash register for 8 hours, is it fair that you can't even afford to eat but Sam F***face Walton is rolling in BILLIONS of dollars....and these are living breathing human beings with basic needs and emotions and all they want to do is feed their children and have a roof over their heads. They go to work everyday dreaming of meeting basic needs and working their asses off. It happens worldwide, but we are not a 3rd world country.

Lets keep it honest, sure Sam deserves millions for his invention and creation, but let's allow other human beings the chance to live...$270 bucks per week is insulting for any job in today's day and age.

And as far as people striking because they are being forced to work Holiday's...I am in favor of it..because it comes down to greed...and nothing more. Family values are out the window, and the very few holidays which people should celebrate and spend with their families is up for grabs because Sam Walton and his shareholders want more profits...W

Well F*** you Walmart and Sam Walton.
 
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We are addressing two sides of the same coin. Walmarts policies and practices have been validated and even celebrated for well over a decade. This is nothing new. The citizens of this country have supported this eventual point with their dollars for all of Walmarts existence. The failure of local businesses is a direct result of the choices people have made day after day and week after week and year after year. This is the fundamental flaw that has driven this country to its current state. Everyone waits until the bottom has fallen out to whine and complain and expect everyone else to come to their rescue after a lifetime of poor decisions. I'm sorry if I sound insensitive or indifferent, but what did people think was going to happen.
I can't count on two hands the number of times I've shopped at Walmart, but given the current state of our country I'd be lying if I said I haven't taken advantage of their prices on ammunition.
 
I only visit WalMart after an all you can eat breakfast buffet to destroy their plumbing... Walmart has not only closed local businesses, but also larger corporations. They force a company to sell their products at a price walmart decides is fair and many times ruins the other company. This happened to rubbermaid in the 1990's i believe. They also deck their stores with crap from china, and im very against that.

The walton family, primarily his sons are worth billions of dollars, and they barely pay their employees enough money to survive... This is a shame!
 
Wesley, Sam Walton has been dead for a long time and he is not the culprit here. He ran a very decent store. Remember when WalMart prided themselves on selling only American made? That was Sam Walton. But, since his death his greedy ass kids have run the place into the ground.
 
Yeah I seen a Documentary on Walmart and their sweat shops over in China,lol, they are greeedy pigs
 
I view it as someone running a business and it's fucking genius. I'm sorry but Walmart is successful and puts others out of business because it grew to be what it is from what Sam wanted and that is to provide goods at affordable prices for people that can't shopping anywhere else. As someone who would want Walmart to sell their products I'm sure it would suck because yes you have to sell it to them where they want it so not only they make their margins but the consumer can afford it.

It's no one's business how much the owners make in business, period. If people don't like it they can leave and find another job, that's the risk of running a business. Walmart doesn't have to have college graduates or certified personnel, they just need someone with a pulse that can push a button which is why Walmart spends fucking millions on having the state of the art equipment for that reason. Walmart makes money on distribution and it is king in that realm. That's how it makes it's money. Their truck drivers use to make a great living until they began to contract out because they wanted more money too.

In the end don't blame the company in all reality blame the people that shop there.

Yeah, they are greedy ass kids now running it but Walmart will never go away because of that.
 
Nice different view points.

If I were a businessman (only concerned about myself) I would say it is genious, the idea. Buffalo I agree 1000% the business model is smart and effective. So is planet fitness...the idea is ingenious to make money for the owners.

On that note, a corporation shuts down anything that breathes with life around it. For example, my gym now, a Powerhouse gym that is AMAZING, where PJ Braun trained for years, is struggling to stay afloat, could shut down anytime. A gym called CLUB 24 (planet fitness model) opened a mile away. It is a POS gym. Dumbells go up to 80lbs. But, it's like $10 bucks per month. And since the economy sucks, my gym is losing members who can afford it better..which will result in good gyms closing.

This happened to my last gym 5 years ago. Shut down never to return. I mean you guys know what I mean, everyone here gets it.

Ox, yeah I knew Sam Walton died, but it was his idea and dream to start a corporation :) Knowing well the dangers of corporations in America, and yes outsourcing to China is BS...I do remember Walmart as a kid when they had "made in America" you are right, almost forgot about that!!

Either way, a corporation will always take people that are desperate for work, due to lack of skill or education and then abuse them and take advantage of them.

To me this is just economic slavery.

But what can we do about it??
 
I was just playing devils advocate but in these issues I over think everything since I've been on both sides.

I've learned over the years that I value.....well value. My gym is nice but I'd rather pay $20 a month at golds or Meteoflex but they don't offer all the crap my wife and kids like. It's still a decent gym, I've already maxed out the dumbbells for rowing that go up to 130lbs and I'll max them out on bench this year.

To go back and touch on value, the company I work for is definitely not the cheapest but we provide a lot I value to our customers. We base out distribution side to Walmart on its efficiency to save as much cost as possible but not its low price leader crap. We train our employees and everyone wants to come and work for us an anyone who leaves us gets hired the very next day by a competitor.

I like going to my local ACE over homedepot because the staff there are nice and now how crap works. I get in and get out with the exact thing I went in for and some free popcorn :)
 
I didnt read everything but I disagree with most here (repsectfully) mostly wesley. Look guys, nobody is forcing people to work there. Walmart are great at buisness, its what this country is founded on,, its called Capitalism. I have worked on farms, picked apples on orchards and had hundreds of jobs. Ive been homeless and even went to prison (short term). I decided that "Entitlement" didnt work. Just bc I was born here didnt mean I was owed a fucking thing. I had to go get it if I wanted it.
So guys with all due respect, please dont take pitty for someone that chooses to have children and work for minimum wage, then want others to take care of them. YOU MAKE OUT OF LIFE WHAT YOU WANT!!!
Obviuosly Walmart is feeling the pinch bc when I was in my 20's, and Sam walton was around, Walmart was a better store. They have gone way down hill and will continue to do so. May take a while but they will.
With Respect,
Rep
 
I didnt read everything but I disagree with most here (repsectfully) mostly wesley. Look guys, nobody is forcing people to work there. Walmart are great at buisness, its what this country is founded on,, its called Capitalism. I have worked on farms, picked apples on orchards and had hundreds of jobs. Ive been homeless and even went to prison (short term). I decided that "Entitlement" didnt work. Just bc I was born here didnt mean I was owed a fucking thing. I had to go get it if I wanted it.
So guys with all due respect, please dont take pitty for someone that chooses to have children and work for minimum wage, then want others to take care of them. YOU MAKE OUT OF LIFE WHAT YOU WANT!!!
Obviuosly Walmart is feeling the pinch bc when I was in my 20's, and Sam walton was around, Walmart was a better store. They have gone way down hill and will continue to do so. May take a while but they will.
With Respect,
Rep

You would have loved my posts damn it lol.

In the end I think there is always a median but the man holding the most money is usually the devil.
 
I didnt read everything but I disagree with most here (repsectfully) mostly wesley. Look guys, nobody is forcing people to work there. Walmart are great at buisness, its what this country is founded on,, its called Capitalism. I have worked on farms, picked apples on orchards and had hundreds of jobs. Ive been homeless and even went to prison (short term). I decided that "Entitlement" didnt work. Just bc I was born here didnt mean I was owed a fucking thing. I had to go get it if I wanted it.
So guys with all due respect, please dont take pitty for someone that chooses to have children and work for minimum wage, then want others to take care of them. YOU MAKE OUT OF LIFE WHAT YOU WANT!!!
Obviuosly Walmart is feeling the pinch bc when I was in my 20's, and Sam walton was around, Walmart was a better store. They have gone way down hill and will continue to do so. May take a while but they will.
With Respect,
Rep

I usually agree with a lot of your views, but I have to say that there just arent enough resources in this country, and yes some people have absolutly no other choice but take what little there is left out there in the workforce. So while your right in essence , No One is holding a gun to anyones head, but I mean come on lets be honest here this country has gotten to the point where their just is not enough to go around and in some if not many cases, if you dont take the walmart job, you might not eat.
 
I usually agree with a lot of your views, but I have to say that there just arent enough resources in this country, and yes some people have absolutly no other choice but take what little there is left out there in the workforce. So while your right in essence , No One is holding a gun to anyones head, but I mean come on lets be honest here this country has gotten to the point where their just is not enough to go around and in some if not many cases, if you dont take the walmart job, you might not eat.

Well said !!

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I usually agree with a lot of your views, but I have to say that there just arent enough resources in this country, and yes some people have absolutly no other choice but take what little there is left out there in the workforce. So while your right in essence , No One is holding a gun to anyones head, but I mean come on lets be honest here this country has gotten to the point where their just is not enough to go around and in some if not many cases, if you dont take the walmart job, you might not eat.

If things got that bad for me, I'd pull my kids out of private school, sell my wife's Escalade, move into an apartment and live off of spam until we got back on our feet but even working at Walmart we'd still eat. Both my wife and I came from fucking zero growing up and know that having all that crap means nothing. Some people don't know what completely having nothing really is.
 
What I don't understand and I hate the term in a sense, but this thread has become a "think tank". If we as bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen and fitness enthusiasts can civilly talk this out..Why can't our million dollar congress???

If we were to take all our views, we all have agreed and disagreed and really have kind of come to a very good source of the issue...I think this thread is brilliant because we are real people who have different backgrounds and we have real first hand experience..We may disagree with each other, but we all respect each other's point of views. I think this is where politicians fall short, because they are not usually real people, but rather those who have always been wealthy, and they think their way is the "only way" and one way cannot be.

Rep, you and I have more in common then you know, I too have come from nothing..I too have been to prison (short term) and I too have found some success (middle class) compared to what I came from...I do not believe in "entitlement" at all... You and I know that in jail when you have a spoon and a fork and a few packs of ramen, you learn to look at things in a different light. I still agree with you on most of what you said, only I don't feel that Walmart or Home Depot's or Planet Fitness are great ideas, more or less they are like Monopolies to me (Im sure many people will disagree with this!!).

With all these great ideas combined, I think we should select a candidate for 2016 from MC...LOL, launch him into the presidential election and he/she will be sponsored by Prescription Nutrition and Cyber Suppz..hahaha!!! That would get my vote :) :)
 
What I don't understand and I hate the term in a sense, but this thread has become a "think tank". If we as bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen and fitness enthusiasts can civilly talk this out..Why can't our million dollar congress???

If we were to take all our views, we all have agreed and disagreed and really have kind of come to a very good source of the issue...I think this thread is brilliant because we are real people who have different backgrounds and we have real first hand experience..We may disagree with each other, but we all respect each other's point of views. I think this is where politicians fall short, because they are not usually real people, but rather those who have always been wealthy, and they think their way is the "only way" and one way cannot be.

Rep, you and I have more in common then you know, I too have come from nothing..I too have been to prison (short term) and I too have found some success (middle class) compared to what I came from...I do not believe in "entitlement" at all... You and I know that in jail when you have a spoon and a fork and a few packs of ramen, you learn to look at things in a different light. I still agree with you on most of what you said, only I don't feel that Walmart or Home Depot's or Planet Fitness are great ideas, more or less they are like Monopolies to me (Im sure many people will disagree with this!!).

With all these great ideas combined, I think we should select a candidate for 2016 from MC...LOL, launch him into the presidential election and he/she will be sponsored by Prescription Nutrition and Cyber Suppz..hahaha!!! That would get my vote :) :)

We'd probably still have a cleaner past than most of these putz' that are around anyway lol
 
What I don't understand and I hate the term in a sense, but this thread has become a "think tank". If we as bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen and fitness enthusiasts can civilly talk this out..Why can't our million dollar congress???

If we were to take all our views, we all have agreed and disagreed and really have kind of come to a very good source of the issue...I think this thread is brilliant because we are real people who have different backgrounds and we have real first hand experience..We may disagree with each other, but we all respect each other's point of views. I think this is where politicians fall short, because they are not usually real people, but rather those who have always been wealthy, and they think their way is the "only way" and one way cannot be.

Rep, you and I have more in common then you know, I too have come from nothing..I too have been to prison (short term) and I too have found some success (middle class) compared to what I came from...I do not believe in "entitlement" at all... You and I know that in jail when you have a spoon and a fork and a few packs of ramen, you learn to look at things in a different light. I still agree with you on most of what you said, only I don't feel that Walmart or Home Depot's or Planet Fitness are great ideas, more or less they are like Monopolies to me (Im sure many people will disagree with this!!).

With all these great ideas combined, I think we should select a candidate for 2016 from MC...LOL, launch him into the presidential election and he/she will be sponsored by Prescription Nutrition and Cyber Suppz..hahaha!!! That would get my vote :) :)


If I dont agree with someone elses views, I usually think they are an idiot and I lose all respect for them! lmao so there goes that Theory Wes,lol, I just keep the Name calling to myself in my head. Like this "What a fucking idiot asshole" and I repeat that in my head over and over

IM JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!
 
What I don't understand and I hate the term in a sense, but this thread has become a "think tank". If we as bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen and fitness enthusiasts can civilly talk this out..Why can't our million dollar congress???

If we were to take all our views, we all have agreed and disagreed and really have kind of come to a very good source of the issue...I think this thread is brilliant because we are real people who have different backgrounds and we have real first hand experience..We may disagree with each other, but we all respect each other's point of views. I think this is where politicians fall short, because they are not usually real people, but rather those who have always been wealthy, and they think their way is the "only way" and one way cannot be.

Rep, you and I have more in common then you know, I too have come from nothing..I too have been to prison (short term) and I too have found some success (middle class) compared to what I came from...I do not believe in "entitlement" at all... You and I know that in jail when you have a spoon and a fork and a few packs of ramen, you learn to look at things in a different light. I still agree with you on most of what you said, only I don't feel that Walmart or Home Depot's or Planet Fitness are great ideas, more or less they are like Monopolies to me (Im sure many people will disagree with this!!).

With all these great ideas combined, I think we should select a candidate for 2016 from MC...LOL, launch him into the presidential election and he/she will be sponsored by Prescription Nutrition and Cyber Suppz..hahaha!!! That would get my vote :) :)

I couldn't agree more. As bodybuilders we all fight physical as well as personal battles daily. I was talking to a guy at the gym about finances and investments last night. He works in Finance and he's a young guy. Looking at him you'd think he was a total dick (looks like Ken, drives a Turbo Porsche, always comes in in designer dress pants, shirt, tie), but he's a really cool guy. He was saying he loves working with people that are involved in training as they are more responsible and dedicated.
I know Rep and I went through some really rough stuff at very near the same time and talked openly about it even though we've never met in person. There are always some jerks, but in my experience guys that are serious into training are usually pretty intelligent, motivated, dedicated and treat others with respect from the start.
I would vote for an MC guy in a heartbeat and you hit the nail on the head. Even our election process serves to prevent normal (not sold out Party nominees) from running effectively.
Things are bad bro, it's an important time to build strong bonds with like minded people
 
I usually agree with a lot of your views, but I have to say that there just arent enough resources in this country, and yes some people have absolutly no other choice but take what little there is left out there in the workforce. So while your right in essence , No One is holding a gun to anyones head, but I mean come on lets be honest here this country has gotten to the point where their just is not enough to go around and in some if not many cases, if you dont take the walmart job, you might not eat.

Yes I understand press. I remeber when there used to be signs everywhere saying that we need to control growth. When we were 20, there was 150 million people here. Now there are over 350 million. Anytime someone (politicain) says that we need to close the borders and take caer of our own, then everyone goes ape-shit. Truth is we need to control growth. I remember when Arnold said to close the borders, then he back tracked and said to "secure" them bc he was an immigrant. The right thing to do is stop immigration bc there are not enough jobs and at the same time stop making business so damn difficult bc when the govt taxes businsess, they take it over-seas. You cant blame them. I had 7 rental properties with 40+ tenants. I remeber getting a new property tax bill on a 12 unit building which was zoned commercial. The bill was double. I called and asked why and they said bc the commercial building like WALMART and everyone els, whcih included me had to pay more bc we could afford it. I went to a commisioner meeting and ask how many of the 6 idiots there owned a rental building and they said none. I told these idiots that if you raise my taxes, then I pass it along to the tenants (jack asses). You have idiots with no real life expierance making huge descions. Anyway, I understand where some of you are coming from but if the job sucks, then live in govt subsidized housing and go back to school and make something of yourself. Anyway, yes Presser you are right but its a real double edged sword. Im not religious at all but I like the saying" give the guy a fish for a day and he eats that day but teach him how to fish and he eats forever". Something like that. If Walmart is not providing enough for the worker, hopefully that will light a fire under there ass to become more. The double edge sword is the people that just dont have the mental capability to do more. Then I feel aweful and wish there was a better answer. Anyway, I hope that I havent offended anyone and I appreciate everyones veiw-point. Most of you on here are like family.
Thanks,
Rep
 
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