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    Quote Originally Posted by DefMetalLifter View Post
    Did you keep your estrogen in check with an AI? I know this can happen because of prolactin build up. I keep Prami on hand just incase when using a 19 nor. I have been able to keep e2 levels in check, so haven't needed it, but I have heard many guys have to use prami or caber or their shit goes limp (deca dick). Just hate to see a brotha give up on a great compound!
    Yeah Brother. Unfortunately, I tried it all. I check my levels constantly at work. I am a Medical Lab Tech by trade for 20 years. Plenty of things to run and I have no need for Deca or Tren. LOL...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DefMetalLifter View Post
    Did you keep your estrogen in check with an AI? I know this can happen because of prolactin build up. I keep Prami on hand just incase when using a 19 nor. I have been able to keep e2 levels in check, so haven't needed it, but I have heard many guys have to use prami or caber or their shit goes limp (deca dick). Just hate to see a brotha give up on a great compound!
    The problem with deca is it shuts you down and hangs around so long.... without test you just are gonna be limp.... the myth is that its doesn't happen to everyone but the reality is it will happen to just about everyone that runs just deca. Some run the classic deca and dbol and say "I sisnt run test and had no problems"...yea sure but ya ran the dbol and it basically replaces the test. Run deca by itself and you will have problems after a while. Its not the estrogen or prolactin build up that causes it-its just that you have zero test. If ya run deca your best bet is to run test for a month or so longer... then come off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwidad View Post
    The problem with deca is it shuts you down and hangs around so long.... without test you just are gonna be limp.... the myth is that its doesn't happen to everyone but the reality is it will happen to just about everyone that runs just deca. Some run the classic deca and dbol and say "I sisnt run test and had no problems"...yea sure but ya ran the dbol and it basically replaces the test. Run deca by itself and you will have problems after a while. Its not the estrogen or prolactin build up that causes it-its just that you have zero test. If ya run deca your best bet is to run test for a month or so longer... then come off.


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    How would DBOL replace test??
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DefMetalLifter View Post
    How would DBOL replace test??
    It keeps the libido intact. You really wanna argue this? Wow.... dbol in regards to libido acts almost like an oral test. One of the all time classic cycles is deca and dbol and no one has that l roblem while on it. Problem with that is people run and stop them at the same time.... dbol is then out ofbthe system in a day and deca takes a good month to be clear enough for the body to even want to start producing test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwidad View Post
    It keeps the libido intact. You really wanna argue this? Wow.... dbol in regards to libido acts almost like an oral test. One of the all time classic cycles is deca and dbol and no one has that l roblem while on it. Problem with that is people run and stop them at the same time.... dbol is then out ofbthe system in a day and deca takes a good month to be clear enough for the body to even want to start producing test.

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    No bro wasn't looking for an argument. I just never heard of dbol replacing test. I wanted to get some more info on it from you. I appreciate your insight and think its great that this works for you. Didn't know this about Dbol.

    Personally I wouldn't run anything without a test base. That is just how I was taught to cycle. There is so many variations that people apply to cycling. Just have to find what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DefMetalLifter View Post
    No bro wasn't looking for an argument. I just never heard of dbol replacing test. I wanted to get some more info on it from you. I appreciate your insight and think its great that this works for you. Didn't know this about Dbol.

    Personally I wouldn't run anything without a test base. That is just how I was taught to cycle. There is so many variations that people apply to cycling. Just have to find what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwidad View Post
    Sorry man, I did sound argumentative and apologize.

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