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    https://youtu.be/Pi21Ex9kMqs

    What do you guys think of this video about meat and it causing these diseases we are scared of...
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    healthy people don't see doctors. doctors don't make money off healthiness. people are part of the problem, too. many believe the gov't wouldn't allow industry to market something that is bad or harmful to us, would they?
    ignorance is bliss, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolt View Post
    https://youtu.be/Pi21Ex9kMqs

    What do you guys think of this video about meat and it causing these diseases we are scared of...
    I think the diseases that we are scared of are caused by sugar more than meat...........that being said, grass raised beef is far better than the processed beef we currently have at the store.

    vegetarians still get all the diseaeses just less as the average joe........why, because vegitarian typically have a cleaner diet over all ( more veggies and whole foods ) than burgers and french fries with a milk shake or coke ( sugar anyone????).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    I think the diseases that we are scared of are caused by sugar more than meat...........that being said, grass raised beef is far better than the processed beef we currently have at the store.

    vegetarians still get all the diseaeses just less as the average joe........why, because vegitarian typically have a cleaner diet over all ( more veggies and whole foods ) than burgers and french fries with a milk shake or coke ( sugar anyone????).
    Very true! Vegeterians usually have some knowledge when it comes to food and eat cleaner.

    When I have my annual physician exam. The physicians and nurses always tell me what to do how to eat, do cardio etc... They assume that I'm a juicehead or something, even though I rarely use gear. Sometimes when I have a big sweater on they assume that I'm fat. I usually just listen to them. They get surprised when I take my sweater off and the veins are showing.
    Bloodwork is always perfect, BP is always perfect (if I'm not on EQ then I know my bp is shit), bloodsugar etc. everything comes out better than perfect and they are always surprised because they assume the worst.
    This is all because I have a very clean diet.

    Sugars are probably the root cause of many diseases.

    People that can eat anything and everything will do so. As bodybuilders/gymenthusiasts we know what we are putting in our bodies and the consequences of it. Most people don't give a shit, even if they know it will kill them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    healthy people don't see doctors. doctors don't make money off healthiness. people are part of the problem, too. many believe the gov't wouldn't allow industry to market something that is bad or harmful to us, would they?
    ignorance is bliss, isn't it?
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    processed foods in general, i believe are a main cause for making us unhealthy. not to mention that the market has been flooded in recent years with gmo's. i believe in the long run gmo's will be quite detrimental to our health. the problem is that big companies that market them as well as the pesticides/herbicides made for them makes a lot of money. farmers, believe these companies, believe that will have bigger crop yields. at first they do, but at what cost. big ag doesn't care the it cost people their health, it's profits. the fda approved them saying as long as they are so close to the original, it is okay. i think it's horrible, and most of the market carries them. so it makes it very difficult to avoid them all together.
    i try to shop usda organic as much as possible or grass fed beef. inevitably though i still end up with so much that is quite possibly gmo. farmers have nearly killed off the honey bees, which are needed to pollinate much of the food we eat. often times processed food in the usa is made with processed sugar in them, which corn syrup. most of the time it isn't needed. people crave carbs and manufacturers know it, and it makes sale. especially to kids, nagging their parents for such things and parents that give into them. prime example mac and cheese.
     

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    well its all fats and causes of excess sugar
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    Quote Originally Posted by emmybecca View Post
    well its all fats and causes of excess sugar
    lol, that's funny, but not all fats are bad. it's too bad i can't take fish oil or flax seed. nuts, olive oil, and others are good for us. i believe there are good sugars, but most are highly refined and very bad. pure unadulterated non-gmo cane sugar, i would classify as a good suger in moderation.
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    Organic is the biggest marketing scheme in years. If you don't raise it, you don't know what is in it.
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    certified organic is suppose to have a standard and can not have had chemical pesticides/herbicides used on them, and are not suppose to be gmo's.
    we all know how things get messed up along the way though, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    lol, that's funny, but not all fats are bad. it's too bad i can't take fish oil or flax seed. nuts, olive oil, and others are good for us. i believe there are good sugars, but most are highly refined and very bad. pure unadulterated non-gmo cane sugar, i would classify as a good suger in moderation.
    I run low carb during my dieting phase and Keto a lot of that time. Fresh veggies is most of my carb source. The only "sugar" I tend to take in ( other than a splurg here and there) is highly branched cyclic dextrin. It is the bomb for peri workout nutrition.

    Still on the fence on the GMO issue, I get that weird feeling that the guy explaining it is a "kook" at also believes in homopathics and talking to the dead. I am more than a little skeptical, so if you guys have some real good info on the harmful nature of GMO atlterned foods, I would definitly like to see it.

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    certified organic is suppose to have a standard and can not have had chemical pesticides/herbicides used on them, and are not suppose to be gmo's.
    we all know how things get messed up along the way though, lol.
    I know a lot of farmers that raise their veggie organically but don't get them certified because it is too much of a "pain in the ass" to go get the stamp and it isn't finacially benifical in the long run. That tells me that the standards on the certified orgaic is pretty strict and legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    I run low carb during my dieting phase and Keto a lot of that time. Fresh veggies is most of my carb source. The only "sugar" I tend to take in ( other than a splurg here and there) is highly branched cyclic dextrin. It is the bomb for peri workout nutrition.

    Still on the fence on the GMO issue, I get that weird feeling that the guy explaining it is a "kook" at also believes in homopathics and talking to the dead. I am more than a little skeptical, so if you guys have some real good info on the harmful nature of GMO atlterned foods, I would definitly like to see it.

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    I know a lot of farmers that raise their veggie organically but don't get them certified because it is too much of a "pain in the ass" to go get the stamp and it isn't finacially benifical in the long run. That tells me that the standards on the certified orgaic is pretty strict and legit.

    i am not sure that the gmo is necessarily the problem, because we use an altered form of testosterone in oral form. i do know that the seeds of gmo's has had a gene spliced into them at the cellular level. this could pose a problem in the long run. like new drugs that have been tested on a group from x amount of time, then given to the general public without knowing what the long term effects will be. they could be catastrophic. i am not saying this will happen, but i would like to wait and see, rather than be the guinea pig, lol.

    the bigger problem i see with gmo's is the amount of pesticides/herbicides that are being used on these crops and the potential dangers that brings.
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    Well i am 2 weeks vegan and size and strength are the same but my energy is up and my stomach looks better. And in a week or two i am jumping on test and deca run to see how that go's.
    So far i can do it but i have always been a cow and chicken guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolt View Post
    Well i am 2 weeks vegan and size and strength are the same but my energy is up and my stomach looks better. And in a week or two i am jumping on test and deca run to see how that go's.
    So far i can do it but i have always been a cow and chicken guy...
    Keep us posted on this. I tried vegan protein powder on only lasted two days on that chalk dust. Lots digestive advantages to going vegan too. Are you getting good supplements for the lack of amino acids only found in meat?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jolt View Post
    Well i am 2 weeks vegan and size and strength are the same but my energy is up and my stomach looks better. And in a week or two i am jumping on test and deca run to see how that go's.
    So far i can do it but i have always been a cow and chicken guy...
    Make sure you suppliment B12's and other B vitamin. It is almost impossible to get your B's when vegan. Injections work the best, but then again you already know that!!
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    Depends on what type of health you're dealing with. I am considered insane with schizophrenia. Just got out of a mentally ill hospital after a 7 and a half year stay. My symptoms are the same. All the mental health drugs have done is pack 100 pounds of fat on to me...as for mental health positives from all these shit mental drugs, I'm not sure...
     

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    Dam I’ll open link when I get on my desktop as it sounds up my ally !

    I dont eat steak due to it not digesting well but love all other meats ( haha) but I agree with sugar statement made above! Sugar is enemy numero uno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Dam I’ll open link when I get on my desktop as it sounds up my ally !

    I dont eat steak due to it not digesting well but love all other meats ( haha) but I agree with sugar statement made above! Sugar is enemy numero uno
    I don't digest meats particularly well, so I have started taking digestions. I think it is helping, no GI distress; gas way down!!
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    wasn't having a lot of problem with beef and a few other foods, until the doc put me on a stronger pain med. now i get gas a lot more. so are you just using digestive enzymes yellow snow or is it some other digestive aid. i use ginger root. haven't bought any enzymes recently, may have to. i take calcium and other ph balancing minerals to help keep indigestion down. i ended up getting them, because the one synthetic pain med my wife takes gives her horrible indigestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    wasn't having a lot of problem with beef and a few other foods, until the doc put me on a stronger pain med. now i get gas a lot more. so are you just using digestive enzymes yellow snow or is it some other digestive aid. i use ginger root. haven't bought any enzymes recently, may have to. i take calcium and other ph balancing minerals to help keep indigestion down. i ended up getting them, because the one synthetic pain med my wife takes gives her horrible indigestion.
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    Processed food is the cause of many health problems. That's why I try to have a balanced diet and eat healthy, home-cooked food. This is challenging if you have a reasonably active life and not enough time. But I am aware that it is necessary to have a carefree old age and no health problems. I love life; that's why I work and invest money and resources at the moment to have a quiet life with my wife. And if something happens to me, I will have a $ 5 million insurance policy that will ensure a decent life for my children.
     

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    I was bitten by a tick two years ago and ever since, I have to be careful about eating beef. To much and it will make me sick. (Shits for days) TMi LOL
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