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Today, I had to go to the hospital, as I had a cist in my eye causing inflamation, and now I have steroid eye drops to take over the next week. I'm on tren + test now. Last week, I experienced 2 days of wipe out (extreme tiredness, to the point that I was having breakfast, and dozed off in my flat, and had to take sick leave). This is when I was on Dbol + Test (didn't have this effect before). 2 weeks before that, I had infections in the mouth (not caused by gear but I have a feeling gear aided it), leading to wisdom tooth removal. I was just on test at that time.

To be honest, the side effects when I was cycling 22-26 years old were non existent. But these past 2 years have been very rough. Extreme loss of libido. Not able to cum while banging hot chicks. The above medical issues. I have been having blood work, taking AI and what not to keep things under check, but every year I seem to get worse.

I am wondering if I should call quits on gear entirely and if it is even necessary for my goals.

Something like this look are my goals: 20 best Jessie Pavelka images on Pinterest | Hot men, Sexy men and Hot guys

I have diet restrictions e.g. don't eat meat/fish/chicken, which could mean my immune system is not as great already, and the steroids are just making things worse. I almost never look better after cycle than before, maybe a few kg gained on cycle, lost after, despite strength changing dramatically on cycle. Once off cycle, I've been told I look like I barely train, which to me means hormones are all over the place and I'm not cycling correctly (which is shocking given I've followed the advice of PT's and people off this forum 100%).

I am rather confused what is going on. I also got a new PT who I stuck with 3x a week, full 12 week cycle, blood work to prove the gear was good, stuck to the diet (although it was mostly processed stuff like whey powder etc), and got marginal changes.

Money is not an issue, but I feel like I'm splashing out cash, and getting nothing in return. My friend does cross-fit and look 100x better than me for example. So I am wondering if my body is just $hit and I need to do cross fit at home or something (resistance band workout + cardio), come completely off gear, eat only whole foods (which is going to be hard then to get the protein intake, but at least I will be off these shakes) and see what happens?

The problem is I'm 28 now, looking good is super important to me, and now is the time to look good also. So I feel the pressure to continue. But I don't know how to stop ending up in the same loop over and over again.
 
Today, I had to go to the hospital, as I had a cist in my eye causing inflamation, and now I have steroid eye drops to take over the next week. I'm on tren + test now. Last week, I experienced 2 days of wipe out (extreme tiredness, to the point that I was having breakfast, and dozed off in my flat, and had to take sick leave). This is when I was on Dbol + Test (didn't have this effect before). 2 weeks before that, I had infections in the mouth (not caused by gear but I have a feeling gear aided it), leading to wisdom tooth removal. I was just on test at that time.

To be honest, the side effects when I was cycling 22-26 years old were non existent. But these past 2 years have been very rough. Extreme loss of libido. Not able to cum while banging hot chicks. The above medical issues. I have been having blood work, taking AI and what not to keep things under check, but every year I seem to get worse.

I am wondering if I should call quits on gear entirely and if it is even necessary for my goals.

Something like this look are my goals: 20 best Jessie Pavelka images on Pinterest | Hot men, Sexy men and Hot guys

I have diet restrictions e.g. don't eat meat/fish/chicken, which could mean my immune system is not as great already, and the steroids are just making things worse. I almost never look better after cycle than before, maybe a few kg gained on cycle, lost after, despite strength changing dramatically on cycle. Once off cycle, I've been told I look like I barely train, which to me means hormones are all over the place and I'm not cycling correctly (which is shocking given I've followed the advice of PT's and people off this forum 100%).

I am rather confused what is going on. I also got a new PT who I stuck with 3x a week, full 12 week cycle, blood work to prove the gear was good, stuck to the diet (although it was mostly processed stuff like whey powder etc), and got marginal changes.

Money is not an issue, but I feel like I'm splashing out cash, and getting nothing in return. My friend does cross-fit and look 100x better than me for example. So I am wondering if my body is just $hit and I need to do cross fit at home or something (resistance band workout + cardio), come completely off gear, eat only whole foods (which is going to be hard then to get the protein intake, but at least I will be off these shakes) and see what happens?

The problem is I'm 28 now, looking good is super important to me, and now is the time to look good also. So I feel the pressure to continue. But I don't know how to stop ending up in the same loop over and over again.
Well first let me say that steroids are a personal choice and if someone isn't ready for the sides and knowing that our body changes with age and we react different.

Tren brings down immune system thru cortisol and glucocluride hormones being suppressed.

The mouth thing, it may be possible that it infected wisdom teeth or that u were slammed from infection.
U know they used to lock people up in mental places for mouth infections!!! True!!

Mouth infections can and will make us feel shitty and can lead to much worse.

Me, my wife, my kids all had mouth hurting.
Me and kids kicked it wife got in antibiotics.
Dr said it was viral she had strep too.

But as for u???

My sex drive great and when I can't cum it's either estro, prolactin or having sex so much I lose sensitivity....

I am 43 and I never had a side until I was 35. I today don't touch dbol at all!!
Water retension. I have monster zits at places and other things.
But it's part of aging too.

At work not sure what it is u were asking besides what I said. Will read again after work.

If u think it's the gear stop or get bloods see where u at!!!
Get correct test for prolactin and estro while on progestin like tren..

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@Muscle Mechanic.

I agree. The issue is that all this time, I was taking gear, and had minimal-no side effects that I couldn't control (e.g. additional hair growth, more libido etc which is all fine). Now, I seem to have having more extreme reactions, to the same gear. This is bad, no?

I mean, all the issues have cleared up with medicine, and maybe its not also related (e.g. wisdom teeth issues happen to everyone) so I am not blaming the drugs. Maybe its also coincidence, or maybe I just had a bad run, idk.

What I am concerned about it, I have cycled many times, eating clean diet for years, etc yet my lifts are still not great, and when I show my pic I barely look like I lift and look unproportionate overall. But I am really trying hard and am getting demotivated by the lack of results. I even got a good PT, completely changed the diet and stuck to it, stuck to training, all the signs are positive (e.g. increased strength week on week) but at the end of it I look marginally different / basically regress back to where I started, so then what is the point. Seems like a whole load of effort for nothing (and I'm not the one judging, the scales, body fat measurement, and the chicks I bang tell me lol).

I have ordered a test for prolactin etc, but, I seem to have 'steady' issues regardless of diet / training etc which I cannot seem to resolve. I am unsure how to fix myself anymore.

I originally thought I was expecting too much, but after speaking to several guys on this forum and generally, something is off.
 
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@Muscle Mechanic.

I agree. The issue is that all this time, I was taking gear, and had minimal-no side effects that I couldn't control (e.g. additional hair growth, more libido etc which is all fine). Now, I seem to have having more extreme reactions, to the same gear. This is bad, no?

I mean, all the issues have cleared up with medicine, and maybe its not also related (e.g. wisdom teeth issues happen to everyone) so I am not blaming the drugs. Maybe its also coincidence, or maybe I just had a bad run, idk.

What I am concerned about it, I have cycled many times, eating clean diet for years, etc yet my lifts are still not great, and when I show my pic I barely look like I lift and look unproportionate overall. But I am really trying hard and am getting demotivated by the lack of results. I even got a good PT, completely changed the diet and stuck to it, stuck to training, all the signs are positive (e.g. increased strength week on week) but at the end of it I look marginally different / basically regress back to where I started, so then what is the point. Seems like a whole load of effort for nothing (and I'm not the one judging, the scales, body fat measurement, and the chicks I bang tell me lol).

I have ordered a test for prolactin etc, but, I seem to have 'steady' issues regardless of diet / training etc which I cannot seem to resolve. I am unsure how to fix myself anymore.

I originally thought I was expecting too much, but after speaking to several guys on this forum and generally, something is off.
Are u taking ssri's ?
And as for as results mine come from pushing not gear!
Gear is an aid in healing and performance
Results take years of training

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What is ssri's?
Yeah, but I am really trying. But its always a few kg up in cycle, strength up, pushing, then regress once off (but weight only goes down a little).
Seems like an endless cycle....
 
Not sure what these are.

I've come of the dbol, swapped over to just test/tren, feeling a lot better, the fat seems to be coming off too, but having some crazy pip (legs aching all the time). Any cures for this?
More water!!
Tren requires alot of water.
Try coconut water and natty posasium food sources!!!
Pip?
Short ester?
Rotate If so.
Prop hurts for many if using it

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What is ssri's?
Yeah, but I am really trying. But its always a few kg up in cycle, strength up, pushing, then regress once off (but weight only goes down a little).
Seems like an endless cycle....
Serotonin reuptake inhibitors

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