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    Default Site Enhancing Oils (synthol) - a how to guide

    I am answering a lot of pms and emails about this subject, so here is the article again in it's own thread.

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    The most popular now are Synthol/PumpnPose, Syntherol, EsikClean, Nuclear Nutrition Site Oil and Liquid Muscle.

    Synthol/PumpnPose is the original product. As such, it charges a lot of money and it's the most expensive variant as it relies on it's name to sell it - the cheapest found is $149.95. There must be a lot of fakes out there since the inventor of it, Chris Clark, charges a wholesale price of over $100 per bottle (and that's for large quantity), so there's no way that some outfits can retail it for $100. The only official distributor for PnP is www.meso-morph.com

    Syntherol is my favourite simply because is the only one that I know of that is made by a real pharmaceutical company, so guaranteed sterile, plus it hurts less and the results seem to be better - don't take my word for it, ask around! It's the same formula as Synthol/PumpnPose, with added silica, which is a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'. It's also the number 1 best selling Site Oil in the world, so they must be doing something right! And Synthetek (the maker of Syntherol) is the only company to offer a double money back guarantee and they never had any complaints from any customer from anywhere in the world! By far my choice, plus, it's cheap - $129.95. www.synthetek.com

    EsikClean - same formula as Synthol, but it has colagen added. That makes it a very bad choice to use in my opinion. When you use site oils, the biggest problem is the formation of scar tissue. You don't want any scar tissue build up when you use site oils. Scar tissue is colagen buildup due to the trauma caused to the muscle by sticking a needle in there. As such, I would not help the build up of scar tissue in the muscle by injecting colagen. So, that's a bad choice. $100 per bottle www.synthol-direct.com Plus these are the people that counterfited Chris Clark's PnP and Synthetek's Syntherol, so one wonders how 'genuine' they are. Their associated websites are www.synthol.com, www.finalabs.com, www.zoelabs.com, www.pumpnpose.com, www.primolabs.com I strongly recommend that people stay away from them!

    Nuclear Nutrition Oil - is a very good product, which works quite well. It's exactly as Syntherol, plus the addition of a small amount of prohormones. I am not a big fan of prohormones due to the reason that they will give you more side effects than benefits. Also, because of the prohormones, you cannot import it into countries like Canada or Australia, where prohormones are illegal. Still a good product - $149.95 www.nuclearnutrition.com

    Liquid Muscle - same as PumpnPose, but at $199.95 per bottle. However, I can't find too much about it and about who makes it, as it seems as a small outfit and as such I have trouble trusting it 100%, especially when I am supposed to inject their stuff into MY body. www.liquidmuscle.com

    There's a few other brands, but the above are the most well known. The other brands available, I personally would not trust since they come from very small outfits, so you don't know whether they are sterile or just mixed together in somebody's 'bathtub'.

    Site oils can be used for two purposes - to increase the size of a muscle or to shape a muscle.

    To increase size, lets use the biceps for example. You need to inject in EVERY head of the muscle, while rotating the shots daily within that head. This is the only way to ensure that the added size keeps to your natural look/shape of the muscle. The quickest way to get a muscle up to maximum size is to do the following regimen: 1ml for 10 days in each head of the muscle. 2ml for 10 days. 3ml for 10 days. If you do both, the biceps and triceps simultaneously, you can add up to 3" on your arms in those 30 days.
    Now, this is VERY IMPORTANT!!!: you HAVE to massage the area that you just injected SEVERELLY! You have to make sure that there's no lump forming. The muscle should always be soft. You should NEVER have a lump. It is also a good idea, to inject just before going to the gym, so as soon as you get to the gym, you should do a couple light weight, high reps sets for that muscle, to get the blood moving. This again will minimise lump formation. You have to keep in mind, that as soon as lumps form because you did not massage, scar tissue will form as well. You want to avoid scar tissue at all costs. Also, to minimise scar tissue build up, use VERY small needles, like 25g or 26g, inch or 1inch long (depending on the injection site) and inject VERY slowly. If you find that you cannot keep with the lump build up, but you are due for another shot, wait until, by massaging, the lump goes away (it should not be more than a couple of days) and then resume from where you left off.

    If you have all the size you wish and just want to shape the muscle, as adding a peak on the biceps, then inject the spot, in the peak of the muscle, with 1ml every day or every second day until you obtain the peak that you desire.

    What I recommend to people that are just starting out using these oils is to use 1ml per head of muscle per day, or every second day, for a week or so and see how they react to it. That way they can judge how many ml they can use per muscle head and how often.

    Where to inject - Great pictorial guide is here: www.howtodoinjections.com Read the SEO pictorial guide.

    BICEPS - inner and outer head. You can feel the `split' in between the two heads of the biceps when you feel with your other hand. Inject on each side of that. If you want to increase the length/thickness of the bicep, inject more in the inner head (closer to your body). If you want to increase the peak, inject more in the outer head.

    TRICEPS - You don't need to inject in the outer/horseshoe head, unless it is really lacking behind. You inject in the middle and rear heads of the triceps. Generally, at the back of your arm, the upper portion is the rear head and the lower portion is the middle head, as the two heads overlap each other somewhat.

    DELTOIDS - just inject straight into whatever head is lacking in size.

    CALVES - Natural calves, no matter how big the are, have a `flat' look to the muscle. So you want to keep that look, you don't want to have your calves looking round like someone stuck an air hose in there. So, you inject in multiple shots, on the outside edges of the muscle. That will make the calf go outwards, while keeping the flat, natural look.

    QUADS - With muscles this large, you need to do multiple daily injections. Where in the biceps you use 1ml per head per day to begin with, on quads you need to start with 1ml per site, 7 sites per quad. That is to avoid the `lumpy' look and keep the quad uniform. Again, to keep the natural look of the thigh, you should inject in the `peak' of the outer quad, injecting along the crest. If the teardrop is lacking, then just inject straight into it, rotating sites daily. I personally don't recommend quad shots, especially teardrop, due to the very high amount of nerves in the area.

    I strongly recommend that you get some anatomy charts and study the muscles and the nerves that are in the area that you want to inject.

    How do Site Oils work? To begin with, they do not stay in the muscle for 3 to 5 years. They get dissipated within months. However, during this time, they have stretched the fascia of that muscle. The fascia is a great constrictive factor in muscle growth. The more stretched the fascia is the more the muscle will grow and the more it will have that `popping' look. Site oils stay in there long enough for the fascia to stretch. As they dissipate, the `space' left by them is replaced with new muscle tissue growth. That is the reason why when x-rays where performed on some of the people that have 25"+ arms, there was no oil found in there. The oil dissipated and it was replaced by real muscle.
    The principle is the same as the one behind site shots with steroids, but it works at a much a larger degree, because the Site Oils take that much longer to dissipate.

    Pain - obviously, any site shot hurts. The pain will minimise the more you inject, until it will not hurt any more. Site Oils hurt, but not as much as site injections with, lets say, Sustanon. However, as I said, they will hurt less and less the more you use them. I currently put all my Sustanon in my biceps and I get no pain what so ever because the biceps are used with having stuff injected in them.


    Dangers - Site Oils are safe, if certain precautions are taken, same as when injecting anything else. You always have to aspirate. Always! You DO NOT want the oil to go in a vein. Always massage the area after the shot so scar tissue build up doesn't occur. And most importantly - USE COMMON SENSE! If you have 16" arms, don't think that you will have 23" in 5 weeks! Because if you try that, you will end up with deformed looking muscles and you will be the laughing stock of the world, like Greg Valentino. Site Oils are there to help you break past a plateau. If your genetics indicate that you are 242 with 5% bf, but you only have 18" arms, then Site Oils will help you bring your arms in proportion.
    All that I am saying is that Site Oils are there to aid the work that you do in the gym, not replace it!

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    I can tell you that I have been very pleased with Syntherol. I have used two bottles and have liked the results. As long as you follow the instructions most should be very happy with the results. I will be purchasing more in the near future. I have no reason to bullshit anyone here, just telling about a product I really liked.
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    how long does the oil ussually last when its in the muscle. do you keep any of the size at all
     

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    I decided to try it myself and was wondering the same thing. I had a week-long trip right in the middle of my regimen (I was 15 days into it so I was injecting 2ml by then), and it seemed to dissipate or get absorbed quite quickly. I've been doing my arms, and my size was up about another 5/8" to 3/4". By the time I came back, I had lost almost all of it. I guess I'm also wondering if the full 30 days is enough or do you keep on doing it? Or supposedly if you are on gear and eating enough, your body is supposed to fill up that space with muscle (thereby not losing any size), but does it only take that long or does it take longer for some individuals?
     

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    You HAVE to do it the way I describe it. No shortcuts:

    1ml for 10 days
    2ml for 10 days
    3ml for 10 days

    Then 3ml once a week for 4 - 6 weeks.

    All the above are for each muscle head.

    Once you finish the initial 30 days, you HAVE to be in an ideal anabolic environment - food, training, recuperation, gear.

    If you do all the above, by the end of your maintanance, all the size will be permanent and all the oil would have dissipated.

    If you do it any other way, it will not work. It will be like taking 1 a-50 by itself whever you remembered to - you will lose all the gains (if you made any) straight away.

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    I realize that it has to be done as you describe, BigA, but I was curious besides that to know how long the oil normally takes to dissipate. In my case of the trip above, I had no choice (family matter in Brazil) and I knew I was going to lose some size, but the loss happened more rapidly than I thought it would occur. Providing I can get to and stay close enough to the ideal anabolic environment during the maintenance period, I should keep most or a lot of the size, correct?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonykemp
    I realize that it has to be done as you describe, BigA, but I was curious besides that to know how long the oil normally takes to dissipate. In my case of the trip above, I had no choice (family matter in Brazil) and I knew I was going to lose some size, but the loss happened more rapidly than I thought it would occur. Providing I can get to and stay close enough to the ideal anabolic environment during the maintenance period, I should keep most or a lot of the size, correct?
    That's because the SEO's don't stay in the muscle for years like some idiots say, but they dissipate rather quickly. That is why one should do the full 30 days build up, followed by the 6 week maintanance phase, before the size becomes permanent.

    Once you stop the 30 days, you will instantly lose about 1/2" which is the inflamation caused by the trauma of frequent (daily) injections.
    After that though, you should keep virtually all the remaining size when everything is done right.

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    wow this is a great post....definately breaks it down for all of you...should be a sticky if not already....good work BigA....takes alot of confusion out of it for everyone


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bignick
    should be a sticky if not already....
    Done.

    It's a Sticky on countless boards, but uneducation still perseveres.
    I've seen boards where SEO questions are asked right underneath this Sticky, questions that are answered in it! Most people are just too lazy to look around.

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    Something interesting...I've noticed that some of my muscles really needed that fascia stretching--well, my triceps needed it. I wanted to see how they responded so I have injected them a few times (maybe 5-6 times in the last three weeks--I only wanted to see how they would react). Funny thing is that even after not injecting them in the last week or more, the size has _not_ disappeared. I think my body is quickly building muscle into that space because I have always had lagging triceps in size but they are extremely strong. Can it happen that quickly?
     

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    for those of you that have used SEO's is there a painful, did you experience a painful aftermath when using them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tonykemp
    Something interesting...I've noticed that some of my muscles really needed that fascia stretching--well, my triceps needed it. I wanted to see how they responded so I have injected them a few times (maybe 5-6 times in the last three weeks--I only wanted to see how they would react). Funny thing is that even after not injecting them in the last week or more, the size has _not_ disappeared. I think my body is quickly building muscle into that space because I have always had lagging triceps in size but they are extremely strong. Can it happen that quickly?
    Certainly can. You are one of the ones that respond better.

    The most extreme I have ever seen was CRYPTO going from 19" to 22.5" in the 4 weeks for his arms and then maintaining 22" even years later.

    The least extreme I've seen was xcelbeyond gaining only 1/2" during the same time frame.

    These two are the most extremes.

    Usually, most people gain on average 2" to 3" in the 4 weeks and then they maintain 2" permanant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bignick
    for those of you that have used SEO's is there a painful, did you experience a painful aftermath when using them?
    The first few days ar ehard as you have a constant stretching pain. Then you get used to it and it's much easier and after a couple of weeks you don't even feel it anymore, you just have a constant pumped feeling.

    Of course, after you finish the course, you feel nothing anymore.

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    I read some interesting info about that stuff but someone told me I shouldn't use it for several reasons.
    Can anyone tell me more about the positive/negative aspects of this gear?
    Thanks a lot.

    There is another product I find interesting (from the same source, Synthetek): it's Kynoselen. Has anyone tried it?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcakebis
    I read some interesting info about that stuff but someone told me I shouldn't use it for several reasons.
    Can anyone tell me more about the positive/negative aspects of this gear?
    Thanks a lot.

    There is another product I find interesting (from the same source, Synthetek): it's Kynoselen. Has anyone tried it?
    Positives and negatives are up in that post. Read here as well more info on it:
    https://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...read.php?t=205

    Syntheselen has been around for 4 years. Tons of people have used it. It's non hormonal, so ideal to use in between cycles and the results are like a mild anabolic (primobolan). On ProMuscle tons of people have been using it for years. You can do a Search there.

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    hey, I appreciate that read bro, not to many people have a good idea about synthol and I was one, that cleared alot of things up for me
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsteronjuice
    hey, I appreciate that read bro, not to many people have a good idea about synthol and I was one, that cleared alot of things up for me
    agreed, by far the best read on synthol Ive ever seen. Nothing else come even close.

    I plan to use it one day, and will follow this routine.
    "The greatest risk is to take no risk."

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    Big A ,
    if you get a chance can you give me a breakdown to do it in my calves
    because i read something where is says to shoot 1/2ml into each side of the calf
    then i would do one calf a day?
    and how does your muscle feel is it still hard ?
    and when you cut down there is no telling you did it; it just turns to pure muscle after it dissipates and allows your muscle to grow?
    thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermannpc
    Big A ,
    if you get a chance can you give me a breakdown to do it in my calves
    because i read something where is says to shoot 1/2ml into each side of the calf
    then i would do one calf a day?
    and how does your muscle feel is it still hard ?
    and when you cut down there is no telling you did it; it just turns to pure muscle after it dissipates and allows your muscle to grow?
    thanks man
    When you do calves, you inject on the sides of the calf muscle heads - see the SEO picture guide on www.howtodoinjections.com

    You do 1/2ml per each shot, 3 shots per head, both heads each day, both legs each day.

    Your muscle will look and feel like it's constantly pumped while you are using the Syntherol.

    If you follow my guide exactly, you will have 100% natural looking, real muscle tissue in the end, with enhanced definition and vascularity.

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    so your saying to do 1/2ml in each calf each day
    and slit that 1/2ml into 3 small shots
    or do you mean
    do 1/2ml 3x in each calf so that would be a total of 3ml each day for both calves

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermannpc
    1/2ml 3x in each calf so that would be a total of 3ml each day for both calves
    Correct.

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    which one did you mean
    sorry to keep bothering you i just want to get it right

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    The one that is in the quote:

    "1/2ml 3x in each calf so that would be a total of 3ml each day for both calves"

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    big A, I am a little confused on where to inject into bis. should it be from the side or from the top of each head. i am using 25g 1'' pins. also, can i start from the top of the bi, close to the shoulder and continue down to the elbow with 5 shots and then back to the top with five more for the ten days. just want to do the synthol correct. thanks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeybair
    big A, I am a little confused on where to inject into bis. should it be from the side or from the top of each head. i am using 25g 1'' pins. also, can i start from the top of the bi, close to the shoulder and continue down to the elbow with 5 shots and then back to the top with five more for the ten days. just want to do the synthol correct. thanks
    From the side, like in the photos on howtodoinjections.com

    3 shots is plenty. No need for 5.

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    I am also going to do my delts at the same time as my bis. I am going to do the frontal and medial heads. Do I follow the 30 day regimin up to 3 cc's or is that to much for the delts. And should I do the medial and frontal at the same time or one and then the other. Also, is it a bad idea to do the rear delt or is that ok. thanks.
     

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    Im trying to think when the best time to use this product.

    Option a:
    when on gear- at the end of cycle, your probley already stretched the fascia of the muscle- therefore, you'd get a better effect combining the gear and site oil at that time.- for most amout of stretch.

    Option b:
    I was thinking that maybe the best time might be before a cycle. Giving your body enough time to stretch the fascia first, then with gear to build muscle.This is assuming that the fascia will limit muscle development. This would give you the most amout of gain from your gear.

    Option a is better, but the problem is when you combined the elimination of gear and the elimination of site oils, you would go from being a monster to a mouse. For me- personally, I dont like huge drops in size... I still like to maintain that I dont use gear.- This sounds pathetic, but its not just how people percieve me. It also has to do with my own sence of moral. Looking in the mirror and seeing drastic loss in size can be devastating. I almost think site oils with pct would be a good way to maintain size. This would create a healthier pct.

    what is your thoughts on this big A? does it matter when you use site oils? What is most effective??
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeybair
    I am also going to do my delts at the same time as my bis. I am going to do the frontal and medial heads. Do I follow the 30 day regimin up to 3 cc's or is that to much for the delts. And should I do the medial and frontal at the same time or one and then the other. Also, is it a bad idea to do the rear delt or is that ok. thanks.
    Yes, you do the 30 day regime building up to 3ml per day. The delts are large muscles. They can more than accomodate that much oil.
    You do all the delt heads att the same time - front, lateral and rear. That is for even growth. Of course, if only two heads are lagging, then you only use Syntherol in those two, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalSucks
    Im trying to think when the best time to use this product.

    Option a:
    when on gear- at the end of cycle, your probley already stretched the fascia of the muscle- therefore, you'd get a better effect combining the gear and site oil at that time.- for most amout of stretch.

    Option b:
    I was thinking that maybe the best time might be before a cycle. Giving your body enough time to stretch the fascia first, then with gear to build muscle.This is assuming that the fascia will limit muscle development. This would give you the most amout of gain from your gear.

    Option a is better, but the problem is when you combined the elimination of gear and the elimination of site oils, you would go from being a monster to a mouse. For me- personally, I dont like huge drops in size... I still like to maintain that I dont use gear.- This sounds pathetic, but its not just how people percieve me. It also has to do with my own sence of moral. Looking in the mirror and seeing drastic loss in size can be devastating. I almost think site oils with pct would be a good way to maintain size. This would create a healthier pct.

    what is your thoughts on this big A? does it matter when you use site oils? What is most effective??
    Timing of Syntherol use is defintely important. Out of your two choices, choice B is definetely the better one.

    The best time for Syntherol use is to begin the 30 days at the same time as beginning a gear cycle. By the time the 30 days of Syntherol are over, your gear would have fully kicked in so you are in an absolute maximum anabolic state, ideal for making the size gained permanent.

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    what if I want to do 3 sites at the same time? If I follow big a's advice Ill be injecting 18cc's of oil per day for 10 days.... Is that to much oil to do at once???
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalSucks
    what if I want to do 3 sites at the same time? If I follow big a's advice Ill be injecting 18cc's of oil per day for 10 days.... Is that to much oil to do at once???
    That is correct, and no, it's not too much oil to do at once.

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    Thank you big A.
     

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    First of I want to compliment "www.synthetek.com" for there fast shipping. Blew me away when it arrived at my door, not even a week later.

    I dont think anyone has asked this yet- I hate to be redundant. But, For the first week im only doing 1ml in each head. Just seeing an opportunity to put gear in that site at the same time. so, I dont have to inject somewhere else that day. Is this a bad idea- combinding the gear and syntherol at the same site for just first week??
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalSucks
    First of I want to compliment "www.synthetek.com" for there fast shipping. Blew me away when it arrived at my door, not even a week later.

    I dont think anyone has asked this yet- I hate to be redundant. But, For the first week im only doing 1ml in each head. Just seeing an opportunity to put gear in that site at the same time. so, I dont have to inject somewhere else that day. Is this a bad idea- combinding the gear and syntherol at the same site for just first week??
    Yes it is a bad idea. The gear will inflame the injection site too much plus the Syntherol can interfere with the gear assimilation.

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    bump good 3 yr old post
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    awesome thread, definitely the only way to use syntherol.
     

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    Thanks for bump presser.
     

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    Bump for an Excellent article.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big A View Post
    Yes it is a bad idea. The gear will inflame the injection site too much plus the Syntherol can interfere with the gear assimilation.
    I thought this was very note worthy to point out in Bold!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    I thought this was very note worthy to point out in Bold!
    Definitely, although you still find some people that argue this saying they get good results when mixing the 2 together. I really wouldn't be surprised if their 'results' is just scar tissue.
     

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    I might make this a sticky for a while what do yall think?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    I might make this a sticky for a while what do yall think?
    Great idea! Excellent info from Big A up there.
     

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    bump
     

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    full 30 days is enough or do you keep on doing it? Or supposedly if you are on gear and eating enough, your body is supposed to fill up that space with muscle (thereby not losing any size), but does it only take that long or does it take longer for some individuals?



     

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    bumping a good read
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by quptj7196lasjdf View Post
    full 30 days is enough or do you keep on doing it? Or supposedly if you are on gear and eating enough, your body is supposed to fill up that space with muscle (thereby not losing any size), but does it only take that long or does it take longer for some individuals?
    As long as everything was done correctly, ie, if your:

    Training, Diet, Rest and to some extent supplementation

    Is on point then what you gained during the cycle minus the inflammation you will keep.
     

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    Hey Big A,
    I've been using it right after my workouts when my let's say delts are nice and pumped, I've also experienced no bruising or pain doing it this way, is there a downside to this approach?
    Thanks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by eswol View Post
    Hey Big A,
    I've been using it right after my workouts when my let's say delts are nice and pumped, I've also experienced no bruising or pain doing it this way, is there a downside to this approach?
    Thanks
    Biga doesnt stop around to often brutha and your best bet is to start a new thread to ask this question, you will get a lot of replys with a new thread.

    I personaly dont know the answer to ur question as i never used the stuff but a few guys here have and will be able to answer ur question if u ask in a new thread
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