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    Default How I put on 30 pounds in 3 months!

    How I put on 30 pounds in 3 months!!!

    Let me start off by saying I’m one of the hardest gainers ever with a very small appetite. I was 6’4” and weighted 185 pounds when I started on a modified dog crap training method with sets. I now weigh 215 pounds. My goal is 240 pounds at 5% body fat. I won’t even tell you what I weighted when I was in high school because none of you would believe me, let alone believe it’s even possible to be that skinny. At my skinniest I was 6’2” and weighted 115 pounds at 16 yrs old. And no you didn’t read that wrong!

    So for my training method I do everything to failure with my muscle groups only getting hit 1-2 times per week and I only do 1 exercise per body part like dog crap said to. Make sure to not forget all of your hardcore growth movements, deads, pull-ups, shoulder presses, squats, etc… If your gym has those assisted pull-up/dip machines, those are awesome.

    During this 2 year time period I also took a bottle of IGF-1 and put on another couple pounds, nothing spectacular. It didn't seem like I was making any gains with this training method, or anything else I was doing for that matter, but I have never gotten bored with my routine following dog crap’s training method.

    I realized that I just wasn’t eating enough calories when da fonz told me in a post awhile back. It’s very hard for me to consume calories. I was honest with myself and realized I was consuming roughly 2,000 calories a day. The biggest problem is everyone thinks that they eat more than they really do. So after I got done with the igf-1, I came to the realization like it’s been said her and everywhere else a million times before, eat eat eat! You’ve gotta eat to grow. The most anabolic gear ever is called food!

    So with my focus now dedicated to eating like a mad mofo, I started sucking down 1,300 calories shakes twice a day with flax oil 7 days a week to up my calorie intake to 3,600 calories a day. Needless to say, have you ever heard of the phrase, “with age comes wisdom.” Another words, when someone tells you that food is the most anabolic growth factor ever, you’d better believe them, because I put on 30 pounds in 3 months with no fat gains. This is the only way I can consume enough calories, day in day out, since I have such a small appetite. At the same time I upped my calories, I also decided to take huge amounts of AAKG, CEE, and other supplements from Bulk Nutrition. So I’m assuming the supplements played a role in blowing up the new cells created by igf-1 to maturity. But serioulsy doubt that the igf-1 really contribuited anything to my 30 pound weigh, because from reading other people's post, no one to my knowledge has ever gained more than 2-4 pounds from taking a single bottle of igf-1.

    If you don't believe me that I gained 30 pounds in 3 months, go buy some flax oil, or canola oil if money is an issue since it’s so much cheaper.

    And follow these exact steps:

    1. Go pull out a shaker cup.

    2. Pour in 3 ounces of flax oil.

    3. Add 75 grams of protein.

    4. Add water.

    5. Shake it up.

    6. Suck it down.

    7. Don’t puke.

    8. Repeat 2 x a day, 7 days a week.

    9. And you’ll grow like a weed.

    Now all of you whinny bitches who claim that you can’t gain weight don’t have any more excuses, because I use to be one of you, always complaining that I had a high metabolism, always making excuses why I couldn’t gain weight, always looking for an easy way out. I’m proud to say that I no longer belong to your club. And let me tell you something, there’s not one person on this entire board who can claim to be as skinny as I was at 6’2” 115 pounds. I’m now 215 pounds and I will reach my goal of 240 pounds. Besides, when's the last time you ever herd anyone gaining 30 pounds in 3 months with no gear, no fat gain, and not loosing a pound of it? Another words, shut up and start feeding your skinny face!!!
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    Nice post. I would say 99.9% of the members on this board are bigger then you. Take your soapbox speech to the local highschool.
     

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    Actually this is a great post because if you're not eating correctly your gains will always be shit. People focus way to much on the drug aspect rather than diet. Diet is and will always be 80% of whether you'll gain muscle or not
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    I know this but I think that story is BS. No fat gain? And could the body properly use 75G protein at one sitting?
     

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    Sorry, bill the butcher, I wasn't trying to give a soapbox speech to all you huge guys on the board, lol... I'm sure you'd probably blow me away in the gym. I know a lot of people on the board are bigger than me. My speech is for the other people on this board who I read about all the time being scrawny and can't figure out where they're going wrong. And simply too many of them are overtraining and not eating enough. My genetics really aren't that good, that's why my goal is to hit 240 at 5% body fat. Being 6'4" that's a pretty good weight for me. And I never thought it possible a year ago. That’d be me putting on 55 pounds in little over a year when I couldn’t even put in 5 pounds in over two years. I'm hoping to hit 240 by next summer.
     

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    Well, Good Luck with those goals. I gained about 60 lbs in 18 months but I helped myself out with some supplements.

    I agree with you on the food angle.
     

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    Quick question , Im 15 and I weigh 125 on the dot. That pic to the side was taken like 3 months ago. Ive been lifting a bit so im going to take another pic to see if ive gotten any gains. But well how am I suppose to get 75grams of protein in that shake?? what would I add in with it? I can eat anything no matter taste. So if I put in 3 ounces of flax oil in a blender along with 75gram of protein and pour milk in and drink it I can do that no problem I just need to find out what I can put in it to get 75g of protein.

    Also im thinking about taking that shake when I wake up before school , after my workout at home , and like 2 hrs before I go to sleep. but on saturday and sunday when i dont workout Ill only take the shake in morning and 2 hrs before i go sleep.
     

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    I find everything believable except....."none of it was fat".
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    I didn't not believe him but the way he told the story was a bit cocky in my opinion. And 75G protein in one sitting is a waste.
     

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    True, the protein might be a bit high. I've read many different opinions on how much protein to consume at once and have always been confused about it. I didn't mean to sound cocky, I've learned so much from this board and others so I apologize if I came off sounding that way. I don't get a chance to post that often since I work so much. I was just trying to make some of the hard gainers understand how important food is. I guess I should have added to the title of my post for hard gainers. My body fat percentage remained the same, so when I put on the weight I guess 3-4 pounds or so would of been fat gain since I'm around 10-11%. So yeah, I guess I should of been more carefully on how I worded it that I didn't gain any fat. What I meant to say my body fat percentage never increased.

    At the same time I also decided to start taking supplements for the first time, which included: AAKG, CCE, citruline malate, ALCAR, Taurine, Glutamine, R-ala, BCAA and glycerin. To give an example I was running AAKG at 20 grams a day, CEE at 7-10 grams, glutamine at 20 grams, etc... so the supplements accounted for a good deal of my weight and strength gain since I usually don't run anything at all. The new creatine ethyl ester is amazing. So yeah, the supplements rocked. I got better strength and size gains off of them then I ever did off of running any gear. And I think that some of the new cells that where created when I took IGF-1 I reached maturity with the supplements I took. So that accounted for some good weight gain too. Although I have to say that my heart rate was high along with my blood pressure so got some side effects from running them at mega does that aren’t considered good either.

    And that’s another reason why I said, don’t puke in one of the steps, because I nearly did on several occasions. It took me a good month in a half before my body could start handling those kinds of calories at once.
     

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    It's not the calories bro, it's the amount of protein in one sitting. 3 to 4 lbs of fat is still about 15% of overall weight gain.

    My concern is that newbies will be wasting their money taking in too much protein in one sitting.
     

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    My meals average 40-70 grams of protein. I have no difficulty digesting it. But then again, on the higher intake meals, NONE of it is protein powder or supplement form. All whole food.
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    You can digest more than 38g per sitting...how can someone put a concrete number on how much a person can digest? Everyone is different...and besides those studies were probably done on sedentary people not very active/muscular people.
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    I would imagine that youre body is capable of metabolizing as much protein as it needs. If you are tearing down your muscles by working out youre body will undoubtedly metabolize more protein when compared to someone not workoing out. This is based solely on my beliefs and what ive seen in myself and others. I too have read the 34-38 grams per/3-5hours protein digestion claims, but i believe that bodybuilders are different in that their bodies need more protein than normal people (I.E: ronnie must be able to digest more protein per time period than say andy dick) In my opinion its better to get more (75grams) than too little if youre trying to grow. so if youre growing from that, then hell, stick with it. As far as whether it was all muscle, if it was thats awesome, if not, then Im sure theres a good amount of new muscle under there and judging by your previous wieght and height you p[rbably can afford to sacrifice a but of fat to gain some serious muscle,
     

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    with protien intake there is one common rule that holds true. If you don't consume maintenance levels of protien every 2.5-3 hours you will start to go catabolic! I don't have the time to go into finding out the exact level of maintenance protien, but you can assume 1gm/lb of bodyweight. I like to go as high as 3gm/lb of bodywieght when I am on a bulking cycle and running Slin. If you know about Slin you will know why I say "and running slin". Now, with this said... eating every 3 hours on the hour at 2.5gm of protien per pound of bodyweight, weighing 282lbs, I come up with this equation.

    282lbs x 2.5 = 705 / 8 (24hours/3) = 88.125 gms of protien per meal every 3 hours. we'll call it 90. This is every 3 hours for optimal growth. That's why mass/bulking cycles are 1. hard to do 2. expensive 3. rarely properly accomplished
     

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    That's a lot of protein tom, but your a big boy.

    The simple fact is the body can store fat, can store carbs, but has difficulty storing any adequate amount of protein.....hence the 2-3 hr apart meals.

    Now we all don't eat every 2-3 hrs.....at least not flawlessly. I go about 4 hrs between meals at least once a day (usually when sleeping) so a little extra protein may help and I certainly don't see it getting wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreww
    That's a lot of protein tom, but your a big boy.

    The simple fact is the body can store fat, can store carbs, but has difficulty storing any adequate amount of protein.....hence the 2-3 hr apart meals.

    Now we all don't eat every 2-3 hrs.....at least not flawlessly. I go about 4 hrs between meals at least once a day (usually when sleeping) so a little extra protein may help and I certainly don't see it getting wasted.

    It's an assload of protien, but again, this is only for bulking. I can't maintain this type of food intake for any substantial period of time. It's too friken hard on the people around me. lol!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggerStronger
    You can digest more than 38g per sitting...how can someone put a concrete number on how much a person can digest? Everyone is different...and besides those studies were probably done on sedentary people not very active/muscular people.
    I have to agree with that. I've always heard bodybuilders can digest on average between 50-60g, and some even more. I have a high metabolism, and I frequently drink high protein shakes in the 50-60g range. One thing to note is that Bigfrog didn't post his diet. If he had a mainly protein diet without many carbs, it is very possible that he didn't gain much fat.
     

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    pretty stupid question, but what is flax oil and what does it do?
     

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    ^^^^ it's an oil that you can purchase OTC at most health food stores. Contains alot of "healthy" fats like Omega 3. Good stuff, if you haven't been taking it, you may want to incorporate it into your diet. the number one thing that people neglect when dieting is GOOD fats.
     

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    Bro's ,
    I agree with Tomsizemore on this. NO one fever set a set level of how can be taken. You need to keep your body in that positive nitro flow. Sometimes it means consuming more protien in one setting. There are times I eat as little as 40 grms and times as much as 80-90 so do the math here. If you are running slin it works better too. the shit runns right threw you you sould not have any trouble. As far as the oil goes bro this is something everybody should learn...you need some-kind of fat there so why not that???? I agree with Mr. Sizmore on this. laterMM
     

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    First of all you can't put a general number for how much protein can be metabolized from one meal. At 195 and on AAS with GH\T3 I shoot for 75-100gr of protein per meal between food and protein powder. My suggestion to everyone is to setup your diet in Excel or some sort of spreadsheet so you can track your calories, fat, protein, carbs daily and break them down per meal. I could not agree more with BigFrog when he said that most guys think they are eating more than they are, kinda like fish stories. The fish is always bigger that it actually was. Eat, eat, eat and then eat some more. Learn to eat right and the rest is fairly easy in comparison.
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    Ya Gotta Love Those 6'4" Guys That Dont Have Good Genetics??? Lol
     

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    Actually, 20 years ago or so they did a test to determine that the body on an average person could only assimulate (sp?) 38 grams of protein per sitting (or was it per day?) but that was actually an "average" person. The tests weren't done on athlete's. Obviously working out changes the way your body works. You use nutrients in a different way than a non-active person. I don't know if they've ever done a test really on protein and athlete's.. ?
     

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    Always good to play it safe. I always ingest around 50 grams per meal x 6 meals.....
     

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    your not the only one whos gained that much weight in such a short period of time without gear, I stopped working out for a few months and got back into it back in July and by the middle of october I'd gained 37 pounds believe it or not, for 3 1/2 months. I had been working out for 6 years before I stopped working out so I am a fairly experienced lifter. But yes food intake is so important, All I say is if you eat a massive breakfast you'll be able to eat a bunch for the rest of the day. I gained a little fat around my stomach but thats pretty much guaranteed when your bulking.

    The trick to constantly keep gaining weight is consuming more food after gaining more weight, because at the beginning when you start working out your smaller and when you get bigger you've got to supply that extra weight. Meaning you've got to eat that much more food in a day. I'm an ectomorph by the way.

    A big part of my weight gain also was that I didn't work out certain muscle groups as often as I used to, Upper body/day off/lower body/day off/dif muscle groups upper body. Which helped me gain a lot of strength as well as size.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillTheButcher
    Nice post. I would say 99.9% of the members on this board are bigger then you. Take your soapbox speech to the local highschool.
    I still laugh every time I read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfrog View Post
    How I put on 30 pounds in 3 months!!!

    Let me start off by saying I’m one of the hardest gainers ever with a very small appetite. I was 6’4” and weighted 185 pounds when I started on a modified dog crap training method with sets. I now weigh 215 pounds. My goal is 240 pounds at 5% body fat. I won’t even tell you what I weighted when I was in high school because none of you would believe me, let alone believe it’s even possible to be that skinny. At my skinniest I was 6’2” and weighted 115 pounds at 16 yrs old. And no you didn’t read that wrong!

    So for my training method I do everything to failure with my muscle groups only getting hit 1-2 times per week and I only do 1 exercise per body part like dog crap said to. Make sure to not forget all of your hardcore growth movements, deads, pull-ups, shoulder presses, squats, etc… If your gym has those assisted pull-up/dip machines, those are awesome.

    During this 2 year time period I also took a bottle of IGF-1 and put on another couple pounds, nothing spectacular. It didn't seem like I was making any gains with this training method, or anything else I was doing for that matter, but I have never gotten bored with my routine following dog crap’s training method.

    I realized that I just wasn’t eating enough calories when da fonz told me in a post awhile back. It’s very hard for me to consume calories. I was honest with myself and realized I was consuming roughly 2,000 calories a day. The biggest problem is everyone thinks that they eat more than they really do. So after I got done with the igf-1, I came to the realization like it’s been said her and everywhere else a million times before, eat eat eat! You’ve gotta eat to grow. The most anabolic gear ever is called food!

    So with my focus now dedicated to eating like a mad mofo, I started sucking down 1,300 calories shakes twice a day with flax oil 7 days a week to up my calorie intake to 3,600 calories a day. Needless to say, have you ever heard of the phrase, “with age comes wisdom.” Another words, when someone tells you that food is the most anabolic growth factor ever, you’d better believe them, because I put on 30 pounds in 3 months with no fat gains. This is the only way I can consume enough calories, day in day out, since I have such a small appetite. At the same time I upped my calories, I also decided to take huge amounts of AAKG, CEE, and other supplements from Bulk Nutrition. So I’m assuming the supplements played a role in blowing up the new cells created by igf-1 to maturity. But serioulsy doubt that the igf-1 really contribuited anything to my 30 pound weigh, because from reading other people's post, no one to my knowledge has ever gained more than 2-4 pounds from taking a single bottle of igf-1.

    If you don't believe me that I gained 30 pounds in 3 months, go buy some flax oil, or canola oil if money is an issue since it’s so much cheaper.

    And follow these exact steps:

    1. Go pull out a shaker cup.

    2. Pour in 3 ounces of flax oil.

    3. Add 75 grams of protein.

    4. Add water.

    5. Shake it up.

    6. Suck it down.

    7. Don’t puke.

    8. Repeat 2 x a day, 7 days a week.

    9. And you’ll grow like a weed.

    Now all of you whinny bitches who claim that you can’t gain weight don’t have any more excuses, because I use to be one of you, always complaining that I had a high metabolism, always making excuses why I couldn’t gain weight, always looking for an easy way out. I’m proud to say that I no longer belong to your club. And let me tell you something, there’s not one person on this entire board who can claim to be as skinny as I was at 6’2” 115 pounds. I’m now 215 pounds and I will reach my goal of 240 pounds. Besides, when's the last time you ever herd anyone gaining 30 pounds in 3 months with no gear, no fat gain, and not loosing a pound of it? Another words, shut up and start feeding your skinny face!!!

    Yep, pulling out the oldies today, but i gott a good laugh at this shit and thought other might to lmao
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