Some HGH Questions for a First Time User!

I think it's time to finally post some of the questions I have regarding HGH. I've done a lot of research on it but still can't seem to find the solid answers i'm looking for. I did some searches on this site and found some great information that has helped me get a better idea of what to expect.

Here is a little background information before I get to my questions.

age:26
Weight 200
BF:6.5%
Height: 5'10

I've got about 6 years of AAS usage behind me. I've mostly stuck with The test esters, dbol,deca,eq,winnny,clen at diffrent times. I try to get two cycles in a year and have been for quite some time. Recently it's been about 1 1/2 years since i've cycled and i'm looking to step things up a bit this year.

I have access to 100iu bottles of hgh so i can get whatever is needed i'm just not sure how I should take it and with what.

1. What dosages should I take as a first time user? I've read anywhere from 6iu's to 8iu's 3 times a week??

2. How long should I take it for?

3. How exactly does the time off/time on work between injections? I've read that you should take time off, how much and when?

4. What have you guys found to be the best place to inject and what size pins?

5. I've considered taking EQ and a Test ester with the supplimentation of HGH, good or bad idea?

Thanks for any help you guys can provide. A bad question is the one that is never asked

I would like to see the answers to this from others as well. I'm in the same boat as Pumping Iron, except I've used for eight years (mostly due to HRT).

Age: 38
Weight: 208 (as of this morning)
BF: ~9-10%
Height: 6'

My answer: I've been recommended 8 iu 3 days a week, split 4 iu in the morning and 4 iu after my workout. I've been told you have to run at least three months to see results so I've planned my cycle for four months (moneywise since it's so expensive). I've been told to use it subQ with slin pins (around the stomach) or you can go IM in the normal places (although it absorbs faster that way), and running it with at least a cycle of test will give excellent results over just running HGH by itself.

i was thinkin more along the lines of 4 iu's 5 days on 2 off?

Good to see a few responses. Kind of dead around here lately...

I've considered once i get my HGH dosages down correctly to go with:

800mg test for 10 weeks
600mg EQ for 10 weeks
4 to 6 iu's for 3 to 4 months depending on what advice i get on a steady dose of HGH for a first timer.

Thanks for the responses so far.

You might want to try pm'ing supermannpc. He has experience with HGH.

when i get back from lunch i'll throw you some experiences with what i've gone through... gotta take break.. and when the boss isn't around i'll at least add my 2 cents...

but supermanpc definitely has a better physique than I do.. lol ... either way, you'll get another opinion

Thanks stickler, Gosh I remember you back from the S101 days I believe is when we first met... Remember that place?? lol I've been around since the beginning just my name has changed so many times and I haven't posted much.

Pumping Iron... wussup bro.. yeah, i've been off and on, but always still call this place home... glad to see ya back in action.. i basically took 3+ years off from the gym (at least consistantly b/c of getting married .. to an ex mod here i might add lol.. and having a child who's 3.5yrs old now)....

anyway... in regards to GH

I started w/ 6iu's a day split 3iu AM/PM did that for a week or so, and honestly started getting pain in the arch of my foot... serious foot pain, along with carpul tunnel like symptoms in my wrists... lack of blood circulation and pins and needles in my hands as well.... so i took it back a bit to 4iu's a day w/ what felt like zero side affects.. at least the negatives as far as I could tell.

I can't remember my exact stats before/after but I will tell you that originally I had 3 126iu Sterosim Kits... great stuff.

I took it subQ hit every ab muscle... left side AM right Side PM, and also into the pec muscles. @ 4iu's a day, I felt no neg sides, no foot pain, no real tingles in the hands/feet... I was originally taking 100mg prop EOD with it, unfortunately I think it was some very low dose or bunk brovel stuff at the time, so I didn't see awesome gains from it... HOWEVER, my diet was semi-crap.. and it never mattered.. i lost serious BF, my abs started to come through nicely .. and for me, that is always a challenge... i slept great... and because i already had 3 kits on hand, I took 4iu's a day ED untill they were gone.

Now.... in regards to keeping these gains, had to take about 7 months off just due to circumstance/job etc.... after 7 months of NOT working out, I can honestly tell you that it stayed with me forever.. i still have it... the muscle mass i gained then.. was it as ripped/strong after a break.. no.. but it was there and muscle memory is the greatest thing ever.. it firms up in no time.

time on/time off.. as far as I've ever heard, it's strictly due to the xpense of the product... if you can take 4iu's ED, then do it.. if you do 5/on and 2/off, it's just so that your wallet gets a break, not your body...

i ALWAYS used slin pins i think they are 28g, and with subQ, you don't want too much larger... in regards to absorption... well I have no idea.. but i will say that by the 3rd kit, it was getting tough to due subQ b/c my fat levels in those areas were dropping nicely..

AND... in regards to your 'add other products for supplementation' ... DO IT.. you won't regret it... even though gh helps you develop fibers beyond your genetic limitation, you still need to help grow, strengthen, and mature those fibres... period... add GH to any cycle... and you'll be happy.... use GH alone, and I can honestly tell you that you'll lean up, your tendons will feel much better, you will feel younger, your mind will work a little sharper, your sleep will be better.... and your muscles might get a little denser... but you will get leaner and ripped.... add your cycle, and you shred up and swell out... but in the way we all want to...

now i could be wrong b/c GH always makes me all emotional.. b/c i just love the stuff.... i just don't have the budget there.

if you take it with insulin, you'll get a whole slew of different results... but be prepared to stay on track, very focused, and you BETTER be disciplined, or the slin can kill you or possibly put you in a coma... do it right or don't do slin at all.... me personally, i know for a fact, that i'm no where close to disciplined enough to take slin..

but GH and Gear... would suit me just fine any day of the week ... .02 from a one time gh user... loved every minute of it.. and always will...

btw.. my pics that are in the members pics/photo area, are the pics i took after taking 11 months off from the gym, and hitting it back for like 7 weeks... not shreded out or huge, but i kept some thickness while i tried to re-define myself back to what i looked like.. (the meat was at least still there to resculpt back to what i wanted)

Thanks bro, some good information there, that helps a lot.


EDIT: I was thinking do you guys have any tricks to mixing this shit up? I don't have it in my hands yet so I really don't know exactly how to mix it or what i'm going to have to deal with. I'm sure someone has a better way of doing things then what i would probably do :crap:

Excellent info, Stickler! I am really looking forward to this.

Pumping Iron said:

Thanks bro, some good information there, that helps a lot.


EDIT: I was thinking do you guys have any tricks to mixing this shit up? I don't have it in my hands yet so I really don't know exactly how to mix it or what i'm going to have to deal with. I'm sure someone has a better way of doing things then what i would probably do :crap:

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In regards to mixing... i'm not sure how the kits come these days... but w/ the serostim 126iu kits, it had vials of gh poder cakes (freezedried powder) in one vial... and bacterial static water in another... basically you take one vial of each.. as needed.. draw up all the water (if you have a large syringe then great if not.. it took me a few slin pin pulls worth).. actually i can't remember if i used a 3cc 25g pin to mix it, then slin to use.. or not... been too long on that aspect)... but draw up the water... then i remember having to slowly put the water in the vial w/ the dry powder.... essentially when injecting the water.. the key was to place the vial at an angle, so you were pushing the water onto the glass

the reason behind this was that you didn't want to force the water onto the powder and cause a ton of bubbles... you want the water to sit on top of the powder... then slowly and easily 'swirl' the water around as if you were about to sniff a fine glass of wine.. mixing the powder and water together w/o causing major bubbles/trauma to the mix.... after that.. draw up what you need and put the mixed vial in the fridge... i always kept the entire kit in the fridge but found out afterwards that the kids are not temperature sensitive untill after the mix is complete...

hope that helps a bit too... then again, if you product comes in pure powder and not in 'powder cake' form... and you need to get your own water... then measurements of water/powder have to be calculated and measured out perfectly...

good luck.. hope the results are awesome for ya bro

wish i had the money id jump on the bandwagon with you guys

Gbart said:

wish i had the money id jump on the bandwagon with you guys

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yeah.. me too.. lol

Thanks again for the info. I should be picking my kits up hopefully in the next 2 weeks when i get back from out of town..

This is what i have access to the 191aa

http://www.gensci-china.com/gensci/products-jintropin.html

anyone familar with this brand of HGH?

The name sounds familiar.

Doind some more research I find that this stuff is some of the most potent out there and is comparable to Humatrope. I'm just curious if anyone around here has actually used it..

Stickler, How long did you run your's for?? I am finally recovery from my Torn Labrum and have been back in the gym for about a month now.. I opted out of surgery and did therapy for the last 3 months, haven't lifted for about a year.. I just made a purchase on the Blue Top soma's but don't plan to start them for a bit longer.. My gains,muscle memory is still coming back from being away for so long but I am getting there quickly :saywhat:

I am just curious If i should run no more then 4 months or extend it to the 6 month range?

I am probably going to start with 3iu's a day and work up from there increasing the dose as neccessary..