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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    It's good to still come back again and review this. My doc just put me on a low dose T3, 10 mcg/day. I've been experiencing a high conversion of reverse-T3 which causes symptoms of hypothyroid, and the only way to get rid of it is to take T3.
    yeah that went in one ear and out the other lol, nothing in-between to catch it i suppose lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Ive never used it myself, as I'm naturally a lean guy but as i said my buddies use it, and one of them had a bad experience recently, and a long time ago another friend really fucked himself up on it, but i know guys who get shredded as fuck all on t3 so, it just has to be done right,

    now back the question, what brands are available human / pharm grade that are good
    liquid doses scare me... the best t3 i ever took years back was cytomel.. mexican made tablets in a short fat bottle... i have been staring at 2 bottles of liquid t3 right now and to be honest... liquids (even after mass shaking) still don't seem to be consitent per ml. you might get too much in the beginning or grab too much settling at the end etc. It just seems too hard to actually know what you are taking. I'm curious to to hear about brands that are worth risking your overall thyroid health for currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    yeah that went in one ear and out the other lol, nothing in-between to catch it i suppose lmao
    Too much T4.. Bad
    It make reverse-T3 and block receptors.. Bad
    Must take T3 to fix.. Good

    Joking aside, using thyroid the wrong way can really mess you up. There is T4, T3, and there is reverse-T3. Too much T4 results in conversion to reverse-T3 which blocks receptors. This is why as a bodybuilder you want to take T4 AND T3 or only T3 if you're going to use thyroid.
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    here in thailand i have acess to alpha pharmas whole productline and i use their Thyro3.best of all,everythings cheap...
     

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    lucky you i guess lmao
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    well,maybe lucky for 6 months,another 6 months i have to work hard.
     

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    not sure what that mean lol, but enjoy lol
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    yeah,not that its related to the tread but i work as a truckdriver during summer in scandinavia.thats the not so lucky part,lol.during winter i have all the time in the world for training.
    on topic thyro3 seems to work well,i begun my cycle without it and have now taken it for 2 weeks and i feel an increase in metabolism.25mcg in morning and 25mcg afternoon sometime after gym.
    natural im borderline hypo maybe thats why i dont seem to shed fat very easy.
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    gotcha, i was wondering what ya meant daddio lmao! not a bad schedule at all for training hard, at least you have those 6 months to bodybuild and cycle hard, then cruise during work,

    are you able to train much during your driving those 6 months?
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    no thats a big problem.i usually have one or near two days off in week when i can train and its not enough.ive tried to have dumbells with me in the truck and its like better than nothing but i still cant work whole body.and ive been off juice during those months so ive shrink down every summer and then spend 3 months or so to try get back to where i left...but this year im gonna cruise and see if i can hold on to my muscles better.
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    you should seriously consider runnning igf-1 lr3 during your off training time, it will really help with keeping your gains you made all those months when you were able to hit it hard!
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    thank you,i will look into that.i know its available where i stay but dont know if their pricey.
    my natural testlevel is on the low side(340 something)so i was thinking before of 100mg testo e and 50mg tren e a week,but you say its better with igf-1 lr3?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatdeluxe View Post
    thank you,i will look into that.i know its available where i stay but dont know if their pricey.
    my natural testlevel is on the low side(340 something)so i was thinking before of 100mg testo e and 50mg tren e a week,but you say its better with igf-1 lr3?
    no no, if you can stay on testosterone during your cruise phase then i certainly suggest that over igf-1 lr3, but if you come off all gear during those work months, the igf-1 lr3 will help keep those gains, now if u can afford both, then test and igf during a cruise low dose when ur working and not training much wouldbe even better.
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    ok a million thanks!then testo it is.and i read about igf-1lr3 yesterday.its sounds interesting so im gonna consider igf when i go back to work at spring.
     

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    I just had some solid thyroid drug charts for cytomel, t3 and t4 and the best way to ramp the dosages up and then back down , let me see if i cant find them, also had a solid article on Clenbuterol and thyroid medicine combined with growth hormone, i will see if i cant find it
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    i posted them in the sticky thread in our steroid and bodybuilding articles forum, sorry!

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    for our cytomel t3, and t4 users!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    i posted them in the sticky thread in our steroid and bodybuilding articles forum, sorry!

    lol
    You are the man, thanks!
     

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    gracias lol,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvia1023 View Post
    For most I don't think they are needed. However if you want to use t3 I recommend a t3/t4 combo for optimal results and fewer side effects. Something like 15-20mcg t3 and 100mcg t4 should be gtg.
    Can You explain why you get better results and few side effects when you add t4 to your t3 or run them together like this?
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    Anyone here run t3 without ramping it up and back down again? Reading a lot of people are now just taking it and stopping, no ramping either way, nor just one way, which in my experience over the years, was always taught at least you must ramp cytomel t3 down at the end. Ramping up was never as vital though, but most ramped both ways and ALWAYS DOWN

    Am i missing any new T3 Best Practices here?
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    The PubMed studies on thyroid function and recovery from long term use of thyroid medicines simply stopped cold turkey. In all cases, some of which was thyroid medicine used for years, the thyroid recovered.

    I can see ramping down though if you are using very high levels so that you can slowly bring the body back down to normal levels. When you do stop he is it'll still take a week or so before the body turns the thyroid back on.
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    thnx brutha, feel free to post those Studies on t3 and thyroid recovery whenever or if ever you come across those again, I know we have a bunch here, but not too many recent t3 or t4 publications
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    Here are some:

    Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy.

    Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH.
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    The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/808728/

    This one says basically the same thing:

    Normal increments of T4 and T3 after TRH occurred at 19 ± 5 and 22 ± 6 days, respectively.
    https://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/1....uCopg3WC.dpuf



    I found it is better to take T3 at night than in the morning!

    Effects of evening vs morning thyroxine ingestion on serum thyroid hormone profiles in hypothyroid patients

    Conclusions:
    l-thyroxine taken at bedtime by patients with primary hypothyroidism is associated with higher thyroid hormone concentrations and lower TSH concentrations compared to the same l-thyroxine dose taken in the morning. At the same time, the circadian TSH rhythm stays intact. Our findings are best explained by a better gastrointestinal uptake of l-thyroxine during the night.
    https://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/rese...dications.html
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    Here is a little link on HGH usage having a negative impact on your thyroid, and why many who decide to cycle human growth hormone only do so accompanied by t3 cytomel.

    Timing and dosage Information for HGH, Cytomel t3, Growth Factor-1 and Insulin.
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