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Thread: T3 basic dosage protocal?
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01-05-2016, 02:00 AM #52
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liquid doses scare me... the best t3 i ever took years back was cytomel.. mexican made tablets in a short fat bottle... i have been staring at 2 bottles of liquid t3 right now and to be honest... liquids (even after mass shaking) still don't seem to be consitent per ml. you might get too much in the beginning or grab too much settling at the end etc. It just seems too hard to actually know what you are taking. I'm curious to to hear about brands that are worth risking your overall thyroid health for currently.
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01-05-2016, 04:55 PM #53
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Too much T4.. Bad
It make reverse-T3 and block receptors.. Bad
Must take T3 to fix.. Good
Joking aside, using thyroid the wrong way can really mess you up. There is T4, T3, and there is reverse-T3. Too much T4 results in conversion to reverse-T3 which blocks receptors. This is why as a bodybuilder you want to take T4 AND T3 or only T3 if you're going to use thyroid.
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01-06-2016, 06:09 AM #54
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yeah,not that its related to the tread but i work as a truckdriver during summer in scandinavia.thats the not so lucky part,lol.during winter i have all the time in the world for training.
on topic thyro3 seems to work well,i begun my cycle without it and have now taken it for 2 weeks and i feel an increase in metabolism.25mcg in morning and 25mcg afternoon sometime after gym.
natural im borderline hypo maybe thats why i dont seem to shed fat very easy.
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01-10-2016, 11:42 AM #59
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01-10-2016, 11:53 AM #60
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no thats a big problem.i usually have one or near two days off in week when i can train and its not enough.ive tried to have dumbells with me in the truck and its like better than nothing but i still cant work whole body.and ive been off juice during those months so ive shrink down every summer and then spend 3 months or so to try get back to where i left...but this year im gonna cruise and see if i can hold on to my muscles better.
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01-11-2016, 08:45 AM #63
no no, if you can stay on testosterone during your cruise phase then i certainly suggest that over igf-1 lr3, but if you come off all gear during those work months, the igf-1 lr3 will help keep those gains, now if u can afford both, then test and igf during a cruise low dose when ur working and not training much wouldbe even better.
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01-12-2016, 01:44 AM #64
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04-23-2016, 01:51 PM #65
I just had some solid thyroid drug charts for cytomel, t3 and t4 and the best way to ramp the dosages up and then back down , let me see if i cant find them, also had a solid article on Clenbuterol and thyroid medicine combined with growth hormone, i will see if i cant find it
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04-27-2016, 04:29 PM #66
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09-26-2016, 09:42 AM #69
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11-25-2016, 10:17 AM #70
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12-12-2016, 10:07 AM #71
Anyone here run t3 without ramping it up and back down again? Reading a lot of people are now just taking it and stopping, no ramping either way, nor just one way, which in my experience over the years, was always taught at least you must ramp cytomel t3 down at the end. Ramping up was never as vital though, but most ramped both ways and ALWAYS DOWN
Am i missing any new T3 Best Practices here?
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12-12-2016, 11:28 AM #72
The PubMed studies on thyroid function and recovery from long term use of thyroid medicines simply stopped cold turkey. In all cases, some of which was thyroid medicine used for years, the thyroid recovered.
I can see ramping down though if you are using very high levels so that you can slowly bring the body back down to normal levels. When you do stop he is it'll still take a week or so before the body turns the thyroid back on.
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12-16-2016, 03:48 PM #73
thnx brutha, feel free to post those Studies on t3 and thyroid recovery whenever or if ever you come across those again, I know we have a bunch here, but not too many recent t3 or t4 publications
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12-19-2016, 05:41 PM #74
Here are some:
Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy.
Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH.
Abstract
The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal.
This one says basically the same thing:
Normal increments of T4 and T3 after TRH occurred at 19 ± 5 and 22 ± 6 days, respectively.
I found it is better to take T3 at night than in the morning!
Effects of evening vs morning thyroxine ingestion on serum thyroid hormone profiles in hypothyroid patients
Conclusions:
l-thyroxine taken at bedtime by patients with primary hypothyroidism is associated with higher thyroid hormone concentrations and lower TSH concentrations compared to the same l-thyroxine dose taken in the morning. At the same time, the circadian TSH rhythm stays intact. Our findings are best explained by a better gastrointestinal uptake of l-thyroxine during the night.
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07-21-2018, 11:50 AM #75
Here is a little link on HGH usage having a negative impact on your thyroid, and why many who decide to cycle human growth hormone only do so accompanied by t3 cytomel.
Timing and dosage Information for HGH, Cytomel t3, Growth Factor-1 and Insulin.
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