NPP at end of cycle - a good idea?

ballsoutpunk

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The bulking phase of my current cycle will consist of 400mg/wk of Tren E and 400mg/wk of Test E (and probably some Humalog) for eight weeks. After that, I'll run Test Prop for three or four weeks at 400mg/wk to allow the longer esters to get out of my system and make PCT easier. Do any of you think there would be any benefit to running Nandrolone Phenylprop along with the Test Prop? My reasoning - aside from the added anabolic benefit - is that nandrolone is known for making gains easier to keep. That would seem to make it ideal for including at the end of a cycle. NPP should be out of my system in about the same time as the Test Prop due to similar half lives, so any negative effect on PCT time shouldn't be significant. What do you think? Is it a good or bad idea and is it worth the cost?
 
body2see said:
NPP is going to hit your HPTA recovery time, just as much, if not more since after all it is of course nandrolone...

I think the combo of the two is great, however it realistically looks like you are running 2 back to back cycles. I cant see how you would not have to start PCT realistically full swing following the prop/NPP...IMO since the esters are shorter you might be able to start PCT sooner is all, but it will require PCT just the same.

The NPP and Tren have similar results, just NPP acts quicker is all. Id watch your sex drive and hairline for sure if you go this route...

Anyone else^^

I am aware that NPP (and all nandrolone esters) are highly suppressive, but my thoughts on how it will play into PCT are simply that it will be out of my system much faster than nandrolone decanoate, so the duration of PCT would not need to excessively long. I'll be doing a full PCT with toremifene and IGF regardless of whether I use NPP or not. I think that NPP should not significantly alter the schedule of my PCT versus using Test Prop alone. I would plan to start PCT about five days after my last Test Prop and NPP injection and run it for a month (or a little longer if I need to). Not only would I be able to start PCT more quickly following the shorter esters, but they should be out of my system faster so that I can thoroughly recover more quickly.

You are correct, it is beginning to look like two cycles, but the second part is intended basically to serve as a preparation for PCT. I think that should be alright. I could use tren ace instead of NPP, but I am considering NPP because it's supposed to be a little better for gains retention.

I want to argue about NPP and tren having the same results, but I cannot do that quite yet as this will be my first cycle using tren. I have used deca before, and I can say that gave me great mass gains but little in the way of strength. I am expecting nearly the opposite from tren - moderate mass gain, harder/more dense muscle, and great strength increases.
 
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