Short or long esters?

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saudades

Guest

• Sep 1, 2009

• #1

I suppose it depends on the person a lot, but what do you prefer, long or short esters? In my own experience, I seem to react better to longer esters, and I'm not really sure why that is. For example, I've used tren ace and tren ethanate, but the ethanate version seems to give me better results. As far as prop goes, as long as I take enough of it, it does well, but still in the long run, test cyp or test e seems to do better.

 

Get_Swole

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #2

I like prop for cutting up alot and i get great gains off of it. Nothing makes me feel as big strong or great overall feeling as 750mg's of test enanth. i love it. So really i like long esters better as long as im at a good body fat so i can still fork down the food to put on some good size.

 

dorian123

New member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #3

think it depends on the person and on the AAS-hence, tren or test etc

found that with tren I do better with short acting (ace)

with test I do better with short acting and long acting at the same time (some form of sust or supertest)

 

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dreww

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #4

without A doubt, long esters and long cycles.

 

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #5

Until i figure out whats going on with my blood pressure, im going to say short. I like the idea of having more control of my cycle. When my bp was 161/88 it took 3 weeks to get it back down to 143/73

 

dorian123

New member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #6

how big are your arms and what size cuff are you using?
the normal cuff size only goes up to 18 inches
that will throw off the reading big time

on a normal cuff my bp is like 190
with an oversized cuff my bp is in the normal range
had a problem with this the last time I went to get my medical DOT card

 

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #7

I had it done by nurses using the large cuff, first two weeks. The last reading was in the hospital-3rd week. I imagine it will be even lower this thursday when they check it again. Im a pretty big guy, so i dont normally have a problem with nurses using the wrong cuff.

 

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #8

I just dont want to be one of those guys year hear about dropping dead while doing squats. I can see that happening.

Plus, now that i know that my bp was way up.... I feel a ton better now that its back down. Im hoping that it was just because i was on a long cycle and nothing else. That i can deal with... I think short cycles are much more healthy.

 

Last edited: Sep 1, 2009

Get_Swole

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #9

I agree normal i keep them under 12 weeks normally. Soon very soon haha.

 

NAIR

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #10

I like doing long esters hand down. Hate prop. Base might be cool though, I'll give that another run here in a few weeks.

 

Last edited: Sep 2, 2009

Get_Swole

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #11

get back on aim you jackass

 

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #12

base rocks!! Infact... Im considering using base as my HRT. im planning on doing 250mgs every week. splitting it up before major workouts.

using a slin kicks ass.

 

Get_Swole

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #13

are you going hypo off it normal? ive heard this twice now didnt know if you were or not. Painful?

 

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #14

I have learned how to deal with it. The few times i didnt eat right on the day i used it, i did have hypo problems. As far as the pain, I must be immune to it now. My friends used the same stuff i use and it almost put them on the floor. So i dont know what to say man. I use 1.5 pins at 100mgs each time... as long as i go deep, no problems.

 

jtunderdog

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 1, 2009

• #15

Norm you make a good point on controlling bp with short esthers. It is freaking scary when you know eq shot your bp up and it took four weeks to kick in. I prefer the results I get from longer esthers especially enan. I like the immediacy of prop though and since I have no freaking patience I at the very least front load it. I am odd in many ways as most of you know but I also seem to hold just as much water off prop as long esthers so for me it seems like I just convinced myself to frontload prop and run enan next cycle.

 

The Dude

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 2, 2009

• #16

I love Prop and short esters. What I don't like is the 700+ injections a year. Now just 4 a week of cyp.

 

Stickler*

Active member

• Sep 2, 2009

• #17

The right brew of base... is nice.. but it has to be done RIGHT! ... tried a few different brews... and only one seems to work well for me...

kicks ass.. period.. and my lifts are retarded when doing them... especially for some reason the Day AFTER the lift.... regardless... base is great! .. i've never done suspensions, so i guess this is the close as suspension as you can get but.. no WATER, so less infection or crystalization problems... plus 2yrs of stability instead of one.. and if you get the right brew.. you CAN... it hurts and bruises.. but you CAN use a slin pin for it... i use 25g or 23g and go in my quads.... dip it deep and no pain.. then again.. like normal, i'm immune the pain when it comes to base.. maybe it's the scar tissue.. i dunno.. but it kicks.. and kicks hard! ...

 

Chris250

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Sep 3, 2009

• #18

I like anything that is REAL ...LOL !!!

no actully I dont really care of its long or short...I seem to do really well off of both esters

chris