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cenzo78

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Its been a solid month since i have started my AM cardio and I might of missed 1 day. My diet over the past month has been at about 85% clean. Stopped the var which I wasnt taking correctly anyway, ill blame it on the newbie'ness. Back on Dark Matter post and Superpump pre and a mix of Pro Complex/100% whey for post workout shake.

First pic was about 6 weeks ago. Was 205 bf was 17. something

Second pic was 5 minutes ago. Im still 205 bf is 15.7

Other than the lines starting to come down in my lower ab/hip area, I dont feel like im much different. What I see in the mirror and what the camera shows are 2 totally different things. I like the mirror better!

What do I have going for me, and what needs major work guys? Shit on me if you have to, ill eat it

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Bro, its been one month, your diet has only been 85% clean... what are you expecting?? If you want to get shredded and build from there (what I would do) have Jon write you up a precontest diet and follow it 100% and add in some sort of anabolic.
 
you are stupid if you think you are going to take Dark Matter PWO and be able to cut. You obviously don't realize how much that stuff spikes your insulin....

what do you mean when you say "85% clean"? either adhere to your diet all the way, or don't bother at all; I don't see a point to go halfway, and your results will tell you this as well.
 
85 percent meaning over the past month i had 3 cheat meals total. I give 5% for every fuck up.

My goal isnt to be ripped or shredded per say, id just like to get down to 12% bf and have a little more shape to my muscles
 
i 2nd lowering the cabs. If you do that, and still do cardio, for a month, you will look leanr for sure. Not shredded, but def leaner bro. Look big though
 
Thanks everyone who chimed in so far! I def am gonna cut out some unneccessary carbs, i already switched my shakes to pro complex which has 4 carbs per instead of up your mass which has 85 per.

I knew adding the dark matter back into my diet would be counter productive, but i did it to help keep my weight up. The hardest part of this whole thing to me is getting over what i weigh. This damn 200 lbs thing is hurting me. If that scale doesnt say at least 200 i get depressed for whatever reason, even though id look better at 190 just say?
Eh, i dont know.. Keep it coming guys!
 
cenzo78 said:
Thanks everyone who chimed in so far! I def am gonna cut out some unneccessary carbs, i already switched my shakes to pro complex which has 4 carbs per instead of up your mass which has 85 per.

I knew adding the dark matter back into my diet would be counter productive, but i did it to help keep my weight up. The hardest part of this whole thing to me is getting over what i weigh. This damn 200 lbs thing is hurting me. If that scale doesnt say at least 200 i get depressed for whatever reason, even though id look better at 190 just say?
Eh, i dont know.. Keep it coming guys!
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whats your height? i have a feeling it could have something to do with the reason you feel insecure below 200lbs.
 
im going to keep my sweet potato and brown rice for earlier meals and maybe my last 2 meals do cottage cheese as my side
 
cenzo78 said:
im 5'9 shaptown
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You would look 100X bigger and better at 185. Fuck your weight. Seriously who cares?? Your concern is focused on how you look as evidenced by your mirror comments. There are guys that weigh 25lbs less than me and are 3' taller that girls think are bigger than me simply because they are leaner. Trust me, that's a hard pill to swallow when you are 5'9 and just under 260 with abs.
 
cenzo78 said:
im 5'9 shaptown
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Im the same way with the under 200lb thing man, so I can relate! Cant let if fuck with your head though man. The way I look at it is, when Im over 200,and back down to 185ish, ALL I lost was water and shit, not mass bro. Its just the muscle coming out to show itself!
 
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what does your cardio consist of? what do you do? How long?

there is a wrong way to do cardio, so lets start there first.
 
id include the cardio for 45min to an hr after workout...

also keep an eye on my log and progress maybe itll help alittle
 
since my schedule doesnt allow me the time to ideally do cardio after my training, i go and do cardio am, than train on my lunch hour about 6hrs later.

My pre cardio meal is 1 cup plain oatmeal and post cardio meal is 1 banana and 1.5 scoops pro complex in skim

My cardio is either 30min on elliptical varying difficulty usually burn 450 cals and go about 3.5 to 4 miles and try to keep my heartrate around 140

Or ill walk on the treadmill at 3.0 on a 10% incline, its the only way to get my heartrate over 140.
 
Okay I'm no expert, but... why not do morning cardio before you eat?? Or, only have a shake (with water, not milk) pre-cardio to break the body of the overnight catabolic process? Then have the oats and banana post-cardio...
 
Yeah, I'd do cardio on an empty stomach right when you wake up. Stick with the treadmill cardio and you should be fine. I personally don't let my heart rate go over 125ish in a fasted state, but I'm usually on a keto diet year round.
 
I do my morning cardio on a completely empty stomach. Only thing in there might be a little toothpaste from brushing my teeth, but that's it. 25 mins in the morning, then I do another 25 mins after lifting. That has leaned me out quite a bit. I do the treadmill at a speed of 2.5 with an incline of 16 (maxed out) or I do the elliptical on level 10, using the arm gimmicks with it. Also, I do one cheat meal per week, and I make it count. Usually tons of protein in it, but also a ton of fat and carbs. Last week, I had 2 Wendy's triple's with cheese and ketchup only, a 4piece chicken nuggets, a large order of fries, a frosty, and a large diet coke. You need a cheat meal every 7-10 days to keep the fire burning.
 
Shaptown said:
elaborate please
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We'll what I mean is most people dont hit the target heart rate, they do to short of time for the results they want out of it, and they bouce from machine to machine in one session, which I personally dont agree with. Also lets say you plan on doing 30 min. of cardio, but it takes you 10 min. to hit your target heart rate. Then you would actually need to do 40 min. to have 30 min. of cardio that actually worked towards your goal.
 
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