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01-27-2011, 05:18 PM #2
nolva-bloat will compete for the estrogen receptor with free floating estrogen, another words its best when symptoms of gyno are already present like puffyness,itchy ect
while aqua-dex and anti-estro both stop the aromitization of testosterone to estrogen altogether so they are best before any symptoms occur.
you can tell what each is by their listed doses as wellfreakinthegym, thudgens96 thanked for this post
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Would the aqua-dex or Anti-estro, used during the cycle, limit your gains? I used test with aromasin my last cycle and my gains stalled out pretty quickly. So, for someone like me who doesn't even know if I'm susceptible to gyno, would I be better off running the test solo and just having the nolva-bloat on hand in case?
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01-28-2011, 02:30 PM #12
I have always heard that the extra water and estrogen are good for gains. So go without the anti e if your not having problems. But I always have gyno flare up when on cycle so I always run nolva and anti p so I can not say from experience.
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07-25-2011, 03:15 PM #15
aqua dex is great stuff...nova bloat the girl uses for getting leaner and holding less water ...
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07-25-2011, 03:43 PM #16
if you already have gyno symptons now then you will need nolva bro. And if you dont have any symptons currently and you just want to stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen , then you will want either anti-estro(letrozole) or Aqua-dex(arimiadex)
If you have current gyno symptons and are still running a cycle of gear or a prohormone that converts to estrogen, then your best bet is to grab both bro, the nolva to stop the current gyno by competing with the estrogen for the receptor, and i would also run one of the other 2 i listed to prevent the test 2 estro conversion from happening during your cycle
hope that helps brutha, if u have any other questions just ask
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Sure does, looks like another order is in order! I can't choose my genetics but I will try to deal with them the best I can with the help on here, thanks!
Also I thought I read somewhere that letro and nolva together actually can reverse some existing gyno to some degree, is that true?
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I'm 100% not susceptible to gyno, but my face gets fat as fuck and I hate it. I love the Aqua dex and Nolva bloat together. Doesn't limit my gains, just makes me tighter. I'm not taking AAS to gain water. I want to know how much real muscle I have and I'm gaining.
My girl loves the Nolva Bloat. Now I can't get her to stop bugging me about getting her more.
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So after some research it seems some have had success reducing (even eliminating) gyno with letro but at higher doses say 2.5 mg vs .25 mg or so normal dose.
I plan to do a cycle of a sponsors M1-T and both nolva and either letro or arim plus igf-1.
Also these are used PCT but in my case (additional gyno worries) I would be using them for both.
What would be a reasonable dose for them during and pct?
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Yep just ordered it yesterday and will hopefully have it in a week and start. Had some Androsterone XL but figured the M1-T was likely much better. If the CS M1-T can only be used for a few weeks like the old M1-T (never did it just read that) may use the Andro as a bridge the last several weeks.
Kinda torn as to which other anti-e to use with the Nolva may get both just to have on hand and do the Letro at the end as the arim seems to be a little safer - I already have achy joints sometimes but do like the idea that the letro can get rid of existing gyno, but don't want to sacrifice any gains. Could always dose some of that later after a break by itself at the higher dosage to see if it will work for me.
Will definitely try to keep track of progress and perhaps take some pics, they wont compare to most on here though!
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Hi guys I know this thread is a couple of years old but the info has been really helpful as I am just about to run some aqua dex. Can anyone recommend a dosage for me and how long to run it please? How long does it take to start working as I've been on M1T for four weeks now and have the bloat big time!
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Thanks Jpotch. I've heard their products are top notch. I've been buying stuff from Cyber Supplementz for the past 8 months and William, the owner, recommend MC big time, not to mention being a massive help himself, advice wise. I'm expecting my order soon... All the way down here in Australia
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It's a great ass right lol, I've been out the picture for a while, I moved from the panhandle and back down to south Florida. But will be back posting and chilling with the MC fam again
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bump....... for people not not familiar with Nolva bloat/Aqua-Dex like me.
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06-24-2015, 07:08 AM #34
good bump daddio!
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good bump bro...made make an order..
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I'm currently running:
40mg/ED NOLVA-BLOAT
2.5mg/ED ANTI-ESTRO
.5mg/WEEK ANTI-P
I have a lump under my right nipple that flared up about a month ago.
It's not visible, but it was tender to the touch, and a little painful.
This is a first for me...
The regimen listed above has caused the pain to completely subside.
Also, the lump has gone from the size of an almond to the size of a peanut within just a couple of weeks.
I'm hoping it will be completely gone with this treatment, because surgery is REALLY expensive.
It is definitely possible to reverse Gyno with this type of treatment (if the products are legit), and at this rate it will be gone soon!
It's just a matter of time.
I also had an issue with "Puffy" nipples during another cycle when I was running Trestolone.
I didn't realize it was a 19-nor compound, so I did not have any ANTI-P on hand.
I quickly cashed in some credits and Presser sent it right out (I received it within a matter of days, as always).
Treatment took a few weeks, but the puffiness completely subsided.
That was my first cycle, and my first experience with Gyno.
It really freaked me out, but thankfully I got exactly what I needed to correct the problem, and all was well!
That was such a relief!
I also run AQUA-DEX while on every cycle to combat gyno.
I usually run it @ .5mg/EOD, but it is impossible to know exactly where to run it without getting regular Blood Work.
Some say it can hurt your gains, but that's a risk I'm willing to take in order to be as safe as possible.
I mean, who the heck wants "Bitch Tits", or in my case, a "Bitch Tit"? LOL!
MC products are totally LEGIT!
The only complaint I have is, I wish they came in tabs.
It can be a bit of a pain using liquids, and it's difficult to get the dose as accurate as tabs.
Either way, the products work. No doubt about it!
I know for a fact there are other companies out there selling fake and under-dosed products, and this is a serious matter.
I know this, because before I found MC, I purchased some.
That's most likely how I got Gyno in the first place!!
You want to be absolutely positive your AI's are legit!
I'm so happy I found MC products (Especially the IGF-1 LR3)!
It's hard to put a price on piece of mind!
When you order MC products, you know what you are getting, and what you are getting is LEGIT.
There is no reason to bother going anywhere else to get your ancillaries!
Thanks for being such a stand up guy PRESSER!
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06-27-2015, 10:01 AM #38
Appreciate your posting your experiences with our company brutha
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LOL! Highly agree brother!!
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