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    The LAWS OF TRENBOLONE - tren dick - tren cough - tren rage - tren strength - tren sleep aka trensomnia



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    The Laws of Trenbolone


    Trenbolone, as they say..... The Nectar of the Gods! Is by far the most misunderstood drug, in all of bodybuilding history. So many stories out there of the reckless insomnia, the high blood pressure, the hair on your pillow, the brown stinky urine that is reponsibly for your kidneys falling out of your ass. Ill be the first person to tell you that this is 90% horse shit.

    Why? Continue reading below.

    You see, due to broscience and bible like teachings of steroid use, everyone thought it was only logical to run your Test twice as high as your Tren, you know..to avoid that TREN DICK! Well, it would only seem logical right? God forbid the Tren dosage was as high as your Test, and you might just get called insane or stupid. Well, I too was one that fell into the hole of incorrect teachings. My first time trying Trenbolone, I start out at 150mg per week…150 measly milligrams per week. I coupled it with 500mg Test Enanthate. And I tell ya what…I felt the night sweats, insomnia, the aggression, and the high blood pressure. I felt god fucking awful. And so there I stopped.


    A few months later down the road, I began reading some things on this very forum, all about low Test/ High Tren. Me being a guinea pig, I decided to give Tren one more try. I also had read very deep into Cabergoline. I figured, if im using an anti-estrogen for my Test dosage….why would I not use an anti-prolactin? If you all didn’t know by now, Trenbolone raises prolactin inside the body dramatically after the 4th-5th week. Then, I began reading on prolactin’s effect on the body. And then it all finally clicked correctly in my head.


    Tren dick? Deca dick? How can such androgenic drugs, shut down libido so badly, to the point of feeling castrated? Well, I will tell you all, once and for all, why these mythical Tren Dick and Deca Dick situations even occur.

    So check me out. After successful sexual intercourse, the male ejaculates. When this occurs, the body spikes the hormone prolactin, which is the signal to let you know you are officially done with copulation. That’s it, youre done. You’ve reached the sex heaven.

    So what happens next? Your dick dies. It goes absolutely limp. Because, by human nature, there is no more need for you to pass along your seeds, they are already inside the queen bee.

    So what does this all mean? Essentially, it is prolactin causing the problems, NOT the Tren. Yes, of course, the Tren caused the prolactin to rise, but we don’t attack the Tren, we attack the prolactin.

    That’s where Cabergoline comes in. Caber comes in with the dual AK-47’s and blasts prolactin to the floor, never to be heard from again. Now that that’s taken care of, Tren and Deca will NEVER again give you limp noodle dick. EVER.

    Now back to the “Low Test” deal, I had read a post some fellow made, about NEVER going above 200mg whenever Tren is in the equation. So I tried it…
    I started out again with 50mg Tren Ace EOD. Coupled with 50mg Test Ace EOD.

    2 Weeks in and I began feeling incredible. Strength and size were thru the roof. And I said, damn, is this Test Ace good as fuck and this Tren Ace bunk or someshit? No way, GAULS never sends me bunk shit…. What the fuck? I don’t feel any sides!

    So I bumped the Tren Ace to 100mg EOD. I felt even better…

    Then I bumped the Tren Ace to 200mg EOD….

    Then 300mg EOD.

    And good god, I was the biggest and leanest Ive ever been in my life, all the while running 150mg of Test Ace per week the entire time.
    I was on 900mg of Tren Ace per week only for 2 weeks, and then I dropped the drug entirely. But I must state again, never in my life had I felt so amazing. Strength, size, vascularity, sex drive, well being, blood pressure, my god did I feel like a well-lubed high performance machine. I had gained 10lbs of pure size and no water in just 4 weeks. I am NOT telling you to run 900mg of Tren, no I really am not. This is purely for my own experimental reasons. I just wanted to see what would happen, even if I stayed on 150mg Test the entire time.


    After this experience, Testosterone is simply a weak and inefficient steroid next to Trenbolone. In my mind, when you couple such a powerful drug like Trenbolone at a moderate to high dosage, with a high dosage of Testosterone, you leave LOTS and LOTS of unbound hormone flowing around mindlessly in your body. Since Trenbolone attaches to the receptor site first, and there is high dosages of Testosterone in the mix as well, its as if Testosterone is roaming the streets looting stores, stealing cars, breaking windows (high blood pressure, insomnia, night sweats).

    You know what I say? When Trenbolone is sitting at the front of the table, talking, everyone else shuts their mouths. That’s right. He is the fucking boss and no one else is above him. Testosterone is like the boss’ bitch. The boss’ bitch is allowed to speak ONLY when the boss is NOT speaking.
    What do I mean by that? When Trenbolone is at ANYTIME part of your cycle, test is always below 200mg a week. When Trenbolone comes OUT of the equation, that’s when you may blast Testosterone to the moon.

    Final conclusion of my story?

    1) Always keep prolactin in check when using Trenbolone or Nandrolone
    2) Never use more than 200mg of Testosterone per week when using Trenbolone
    3) Don’t knock something till you try it. It may change your entire mindset of this game!
    4) Bump up Tren nice and slow...and get big and lean as FUCK!
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    Nice read, I love the stuff. I wounder why the some guys here who are older cant handel the sides anymore. Being older myself it has not hit me like this yet but got me woundering.
     

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    I wish I knew why it happened to me, but I'm not that intelligent. What I do know is that Tren is and was the cause. Some drugs just don't work well with some people. For me Deca is king
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    Hmm.... Interesting read. Anyone here actually try this? I had absolutely no issues with limp dick and could rock out another load while on tren.
     

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    Tren ace has hindered my sex drive in the past as does deca but i have never and will never run tren ace at 200mg eod,lol thats just retarded in my opinion
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghandisays View Post
    Tren ace has hindered my sex drive in the past as does deca but i have never and will never run tren ace at 200mg eod,lol thats just retarded in my opinion
    WTF....that's crazy. But I guess you're only limited by the negative sides. I know when I went from 50 to 100 it was a huge gain but felt the most sides. If I didn't feel any negative sides or like in the article I'd run that.
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    I've never ran more than 75mg EOD, but I love it. I'd be interested in attempting this at some point. Tren always makes me feel like a million bucks

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    After reading some more I'll try it in the future. I can see using the caber but still don't really understand why dropping the test so low.
     

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    solid post, good for some newbies to review
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    Ive tried high tren low test put this just gave me a whole new perspective.. Excellent post all get a chance to read it
     

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    Very interesting read! Might have to try this. Don't know if I would want the test quite that low though.


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    ive ran up to 100mg a day of tren but I was running Test Prop at like 1000 too a week. So I really dont know how test would be at the lower level with my tren at 700 a week. I may find out soon though.
     

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    yeah you will never see my testosterone dosage lower than my Tren ace dosages! No way brutha! Hell I don't even know if I will ever use Tren ace again honestly! lol, Its just rough anymore on me, love how it makes me look and feel to a degree, but some of the other sides i just don't think are worth it anymore
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    I am going to be running my tren and test/mast at the same dosage (300mg each a week), its a mix though, so i don't have much of a choice. But i do have 2 vials of tren, test, and mast that are separate, so I can adjust my dosages as needed. I decided to do my tren higher, so I am going to see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I am going to be running my tren and test/mast at the same dosage (300mg each a week), its a mix though, so i don't have much of a choice. But i do have 2 vials of tren, test, and mast that are separate, so I can adjust my dosages as needed. I decided to do my tren higher, so I am going to see what happens.
    hope you log it here bro, as i wanna see how you like the tren ace higher then your testosterone dosage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    hope you log it here bro, as i wanna see how you like the tren ace higher then your testosterone dosage
    I def will be. Its going to be a crazy experience for me. Tren and DNP....im gonna be cut the fuk up
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I def will be. Its going to be a crazy experience for me. Tren and DNP....im gonna be cut the fuk up
    And miserable. I hope you have a very understanding significant other and an affinity for laundry. Your bed is going to smell like and resemble a dumpster complete with a Hobo's shit can...
    I sweat green on Tren and I'm a total asshole without comparison... I am worse on DNP. That combo isn't a great idea Bro. Do some DNP when you want to take it easy in the gym and have some time to rest. You dont want to waste a highly anabolic environment on DNP. You will not make gains or even get a pump while on DNP. Trust me, you don't want to try to amplify DNP's effects... you want to make it through them
    Seriously Bro, put those two together and it's a recipe for disaster... relationship, career, friendships... those two are not something to be done together. Be a hermit and just make it through the DNP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    And miserable. I hope you have a very understanding significant other and an affinity for laundry. Your bed is going to smell like and resemble a dumpster complete with a Hobo's shit can...
    I sweat green on Tren and I'm a total asshole without comparison... I am worse on DNP. That combo isn't a great idea Bro. Do some DNP when you want to take it easy in the gym and have some time to rest. You dont want to waste a highly anabolic environment on DNP. You will not make gains or even get a pump while on DNP. Trust me, you don't want to try to amplify DNP's effects... you want to make it through them
    Seriously Bro, put those two together and it's a recipe for disaster... relationship, career, friendships... those two are not something to be done together. Be a hermit and just make it through the DNP.

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    I always appreciate your feedback.

    Maybe i'll do the DNP before my cycle then. Seems like it would be a good idea to cut some bf% before a tren cycle.
     

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    law number 1 prepare yourself for battle against you body, because son you arre about to evolve and it is messy
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUELABEL View Post
    law number 1 prepare yourself for battle against you body, because son you arre about to evolve and it is messy
    I can remember my body before AAS, and i definitely agree that it changes your body. I look drastically different than Pre cycling. I am so excited about Tren, and how its going to change me.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I always appreciate your feedback.

    Maybe i'll do the DNP before my cycle then. Seems like it would be a good idea to cut some bf% before a tren cycle.
    i never done DNP, but i don't think I would use DNP at the same time i was using trenblone acetate, thats for sure! lol,
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I always appreciate your feedback.

    Maybe i'll do the DNP before my cycle then. Seems like it would be a good idea to cut some bf% before a tren cycle.
    4 days after you're done with DNP you won't recognize yourself. The effects are amazing. The time using it is just really rough to make it through

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    I'm just so freaking excited for it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    I'm just so freaking excited for it.
    I've never done something that had such a profound impact in such a short time. You'll be REALLY excited about 4 days after you stop and you fill back out and see how crazy you look. That first pump when it's out of your system is sick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    I've never done something that had such a profound impact in such a short time. You'll be REALLY excited about 4 days after you stop and you fill back out and see how crazy you look. That first pump when it's out of your system is sick...

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    So would you rather use it before or after a cycle?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudstrife1218 View Post
    So would you rather use it before or after a cycle?
    Definately before. You'll already be shredded for your cycle so you have more freedom with your diet and still be able to stay tight

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Definately before. You'll already be shredded for your cycle so you have more freedom with your diet and still be able to stay tight

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    Thats what I had figured. Better to go into the cycle as low bf as possible. gotta get that shit quick then. I can't freaking wait.
     

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    Hey guys new to the site and new to a.a.s. .started my first cycle last week. Tren and test. Plan on lowering the test but believe it's 250 test a week and 200 tren. Getting bad headaches from the get go. Unfamilier with my exact dosages and details because my guy who pins me is explaining while I learn and can give further info when I see him in a few days. Need to know a legitimate sight to get cabergoline. Please email or pm me. Went to walgreens and was told my BP was high. 157/90 and that wasn't at the worst of my headaches so sure it gets higher. Thank you much for info that can help me. I'm excited to see what this cycle does but can't afford to have b.p. go up.
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    Buy yourself a bottle of Bayer asprin it will thin your blood and relieve the HBP. 160mg x 3 times per day.

    Get some Valium. Or if not use Benadryl and melatonin at night. I quit my Tren cycle after 2 weeks. The lack of cardio coupled with HPB was a deal breaker

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    Hey guys new to the site and new to a.a.s. .started my first cycle last week. Tren and test. Plan on lowering the test but believe it's 250 test a week and 200 tren. Getting bad headaches from the get go. Unfamilier with my exact dosages and details because my guy who pins me is explaining while I learn and can give further info when I see him in a few days. Need to know a legitimate sight to get cabergoline. Please email or pm me. Went to walgreens and was told my BP was high. 157/90 and that wasn't at the worst of my headaches so sure it gets higher. Thank you much for info that can help me. I'm excited to see what this cycle does but can't afford to have b.p. go up.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz View Post
    Hey guys new to the site and new to a.a.s. .started my first cycle last week. Tren and test. Plan on lowering the test but believe it's 250 test a week and 200 tren. Getting bad headaches from the get go. Unfamilier with my exact dosages and details because my guy who pins me is explaining while I learn and can give further info when I see him in a few days. Need to know a legitimate sight to get cabergoline. Please email or pm me. Went to walgreens and was told my BP was high. 157/90 and that wasn't at the worst of my headaches so sure it gets higher. Thank you much for info that can help me. I'm excited to see what this cycle does but can't afford to have b.p. go up.
    Welcome to MC brutha, when you have questions start a new thread. You will get a lot more answers. As far as cabergoline we are not a source site but you can find it on any one of the many research chem sites. Hang out, find out what you can about what you are taking and get back to us.
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    never agreed with keeping testosterone lower than your trenbolone!
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    I completely agree with 100% of this article.

    Anti E will not do shit for tren gyno, you can believe that if you want but it just will not work. I know this from experience.
    Also I would like to add that Tren dick or Deca dick isn't generally described as impotence , but inorgasmia(which is way worse imho).
    Anything that effects dopaine levels and prolactin can cause inorgasmia. Prami is hands down the best way to combat the two.
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    always a wealthy of information
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    It was always stressed to me to make sure you got some test runnin before you start your Tren Ace, or it'll make you feel like shit..


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    The only reason you need test is for the aromatase conversion to estrogen , IMHO.

    Tren is way more a powerful androgen than test hands down, so more than likely any test will remain free and convert to E. SO, you want to keep that maintenance in my mind (and in practice).
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    I've been doing this with my 19nors lately and it's working out great. You are wasting test running it high when you have the sweat of Zeus going in the ass. I'm currently doing 200mg tren ace eod and test p at 75mg eod along with 400mg of EQ eod. Feeling great and strong as all get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    never agreed with keeping testosterone lower than your trenbolone!
    This is the way I have always done it . I'm not to old to learn something new so maybe I will give it a try as Dean & Masher have suggested. TBD
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    If my nips get sore I know it's not from estrogen that's for damn sure so I keep a steady dose of caber going and I never have deca or tren dick issues. I'm going to push the limits when I come back on after my break. I will run Deca at 1800mg a week and Sus at 1000mg per week then roll out of that into Tren A 200mg eod and Tren E 400 Monday and Thursday with just at tiny dose of test p at 75mg eod. I want to take advantage of the primary compounds so it only makes sense to run them higher if you can take it lol. When I upped my tren dosage and dropped the test dosage this time I noticed very quickly I became harder and grainy without changing anything else. If you are on a steady regiment of caber or prami you shouldn't have any issues at all and you will get hard as granite and strong as an ox at the same time while peeling the fat.
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    I tried it both ways and the sides were way higher when I did high test.
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    fuck that shit! thats all i have to say about that lmao. to each his own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    I've been doing this with my 19nors lately and it's working out great. You are wasting test running it high when you have the sweat of Zeus going in the ass. I'm currently doing 200mg tren ace eod and test p at 75mg eod along with 400mg of EQ eod. Feeling great and strong as all get out.
    So do u still get insomnia from the tren when you run it with low test?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by yelis300 View Post
    So do u still get insomnia from the tren when you run it with low test?
    Yes you will still get the tren sides.
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    Tren dick , is that a trenbolone side effect?


    Great thread though, and could use some up to date information in it
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandhisays View Post
    Tren dick , is that a trenbolone side effect?


    Great thread though, and could use some up to date information in it
    Yes it is and while I haven't got the full tren dick like deca dick I have noticed issues when I'm running tren really high like I am right now. Well it's high for me anyway which is 100mg Tren A EOD and 400mg of Tren E Monday and Thursday. If I don't take caber then my hard on will fall off a little while having sex before I blow my load. It doesn't go soft but it doesn't stay a raging boner like normal. It keeps it size and stays hard enough to fuck with but it"s noticeable for sure. When I ran Deca at 1800mg a week it would get too soft to finish with and I upped my test and started caber and it came back to normal. 19nors will do a number on you for sure.
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