Test Prop./Tren Acetate Cycle

forcecon

forcecon

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For my next cycle I was thinking about using test prop. 100mg/eod along with tren ace/75mg eod. Any thoughts from some guys with experience, I have never used either drug, but I have read that test prop is more effective than test cyp or sust. which is what I currently use. I have also read that if a person has never used tren before, they should start with low doses of tren ace. to see how they handle it. Also, how many weeks would you run the cycle.
 
They work great together bro! That's my favorite combo along with winny at 50mg eod. That's a good dose also bro so you should see good gains!!
 
Oh and I would run it maybe 12 weeks and cut tren out earlier around week 8-10 for beginners to tren
 
That's a sick cycle for summer. yeah, you do get more test out of prop as opposed to enthanate or cyp. From what I remember you absorb something like 75% of test enth or cyp as opposed to 80% of prop so in my opinion you don't need to dose as high. Plus prop is cheaper. Also if you look at studies of prop you can actually dose every 3rd day and still maintain blood levels. I love tren, especially if you are dieting hard. One thing to remember about tren is that pretty much all you gain is actual gain. I mean this crap is the stuff they use for cattle to slaughter so they produce or maintain the meat during the process from farm to slaughter. I'd start with 50mg and honestly there was no difference in 50mg and 75mg other than sweating like a slave all day and night. Adding masteron or winny would be off the chain bro if you have it.
 
Presser said:
Even if so, I would still stick with propionate, less water retention and goes well with the eod tren ace shots.
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Yea thanks for saying that - I should have clarified - I would def do the prop. I was just throwing out one of those jee - wizz facts.
 
fstr03svtcobra said:
Yea thanks for saying that - I should have clarified - I would def do the prop. I was just throwing out one of those jee - wizz facts.
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lol, Hey i didnt know that about protein synthesis being better in the long esters then the short esters, so im glad you posted it! I would like to read about that now and maybe post an article here on it if i can find one. Its a pretty cool fact, hell its a pretty important fact.
 
fstr03svtcobra said:
Studies have shown that over time protein synthesis is higher with cyp or enanthate.
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I've never heard of that. I would have thought the shorter esters would since you get more out of it per dose since it is not combined with an ester. An ester is pretty much just the release of the compound isn't it?
 
Buffalo said:
I've never heard of that. I would have thought the shorter esters would since you get more out of it per dose since it is not combined with an ester. An ester is pretty much just the release of the compound isn't it?
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i would have thought the same, in that propionate would yield better protein synthesis if at all, but i never thought any one of them was better then the other in this regard, but yeah if i was to choose i would have guessed propionate too,
 
I always used to think the same exact thing - that prop actually caused more growth because there was actually more hormone. It turns out that the longer the hormone sticks around so to speak the more it can synthesize. I'll try to find the study.
 
Thanks for all the good info. guys. This site is extremely helpful for a guy with little experience in AAS. I am going to go with it and see how it all turns out. One thing that I have learned from my current cycle, is that steroids are not magic beans, you stilll have to train hard and diet and rest. (I can sleep for 9 or 10 hours, the day after a hard work out). And just because one guy cycles on a certain stack and swears by it, you may get results from that stack, but not that guys results. It may take some time to find the cycle that reacts best with your particular physiology.
 
forcecon said:
Thanks for all the good info. guys. This site is extremely helpful for a guy with little experience in AAS. I am going to go with it and see how it all turns out. One thing that I have learned from my current cycle, is that steroids are not magic beans, you stilll have to train hard and diet and rest. (I can sleep for 9 or 10 hours, the day after a hard work out). And just because one guy cycles on a certain stack and swears by it, you may get results from that stack, but not that guys results. It may take some time to find the cycle that reacts best with your particular physiology.
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Amen brotha, good post.

Society makes it seem that if you take this magic shot that you'll be breaking records the next day. You'd be surprised on guys' stacks and how they differ from bulling to cutting with compounds and how it's actually ran and makes them work even better.
 
I have read some of the cycles on these forums, being posted by 17 or 18 yr old kids, and almost died laughing. What on earth would a teenager need with steroids? But like I said before, they think they are magic beans. Or when a professional athlete gets caught and all you here is morons attributing all the athletes records and achievements to steroids. The truth is, steroids probably only accounted for 5% or less of what this guy could do.
 
forcecon said:
I have read some of the cycles on these forums, being posted by 17 or 18 yr old kids, and almost died laughing. What on earth would a teenager need with steroids? But like I said before, they think they are magic beans. Or when a professional athlete gets caught and all you here is morons attributing all the athletes records and achievements to steroids. The truth is, steroids probably only accounted for 5% or less of what this guy could do.
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yep teens have zero business messing with anything like this in my opinion
 
Presser said:
yep teens have zero business messing with anything like this in my opinion
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Exactly. I feel like the whole "bulking naturally, struggling with slow gains, and getting fat" phase is like a right of passage for using gear. In other words, if you aren't willing to do that before using gear, you shouldn't do it in the first place. And this definitely applies to OTC gear as well.
 
fstr03svtcobra said:
Exactly. I feel like the whole "bulking naturally, struggling with slow gains, and getting fat" phase is like a right of passage for using gear. In other words, if you aren't willing to do that before using gear, you shouldn't do it in the first place. And this definitely applies to OTC gear as well.
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I agree. Also these kids are still growing and probably haven't even reached their peak or plateau.
 
Buffalo said:
I agree. Also these kids are still growing and probably haven't even reached their peak or plateau.
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your dead on bro! I did it natural until 23 years old, and im glad i waited, and i hate these kids who just take dbol, and walk around the gym bloated like a fat pig and think they are jacked, it makes me so angry
 
Presser said:
your dead on bro! I did it natural until 23 years old, and im glad i waited, and i hate these kids who just take dbol, and walk around the gym bloated like a fat pig and think they are jacked, it makes me so angry
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OMG bro that's how it is right now at my gym. You can't hide from that moon face lol

I waited until I was in my early thirties and I still took a few years to do research on my own before doing it.
 
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