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    Just like the title, who has ran both, and did you notice a big difference positive or negative? I am going to be coming off a low dose 100mg eod prop cycle for about 16 weeks, still a month left. Going to cruise for a while, then blast again, but instead of using prop again I was thinking of just bumping Test E up to around 500 to 600 my normal comfortable dose. I would like to incorporate Masteron into this cycle possibly since I have never ran it, I will be pretty lean when starting, I was thinking Mast E would be better for less pinning, but hard to find anyone that has ran both esters, just curious if anyone here has and what you thought of both.
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    ive been thinking about running mast E this summer if i can get bf% down
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronJulius View Post
    ive been thinking about running mast E this summer if i can get bf% down
    I have heard from numerous people that even up to 15% will notice hardening, well being, libido, dryer look as well, so it may be worth taking a chance on it. I think I am, I am swaying towards the Enth just because of less pinning, and I can get it in a higher mg so its a win win. Still debating if I want to. How long do people normally run the E? I would assume normal 10 to 12 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get_Swole View Post
    I have heard from numerous people that even up to 15% will notice hardening, well being, libido, dryer look as well, so it may be worth taking a chance on it. I think I am, I am swaying towards the Enth just because of less pinning, and I can get it in a higher mg so its a win win. Still debating if I want to. How long do people normally run the E? I would assume normal 10 to 12 weeks.
    yea ive heard up to 16 at lower dosage for the positive sides
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    Gotcha, yeah I think since im only running 100eod of prop I'm gonna cruise for about 8 to 10 weeks, then get back on at around 500 or 600 test E per week and Mast about 4 to 500 per week. Nice mild cycle to put on a little more LBM and really shred for the summer. Waiting to order some long ester test, might just drop my dose down to 50mg eod on the prop and use that for a cruise until I get my long esters in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get_Swole View Post
    I have heard from numerous people that even up to 15% will notice hardening, well being, libido, dryer look as well, so it may be worth taking a chance on it. I think I am, I am swaying towards the Enth just because of less pinning, and I can get it in a higher mg so its a win win. Still debating if I want to. How long do people normally run the E? I would assume normal 10 to 12 weeks.
    15% what? im lost sorry lol,
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    Winny will do the same thing correct? Im basing this on price as well..I used EQ/ winny combo and loved it, much cheaper. So whats the thought behind this?
    Is it to harden or look harder and dense? Share with me bro, im confused
     

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    winny kills the joints and masteron i hear does not also can increase libido

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    15% what? im lost sorry lol,
    15% bf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powderguy View Post
    Winny will do the same thing correct? Im basing this on price as well..I used EQ/ winny combo and loved it, much cheaper. So whats the thought behind this?
    Is it to harden or look harder and dense? Share with me bro, im confused
    From just about everyone I hear run it says it basically does what Winny does, without the joint pain, and hepatoxicity, I have read being a DHT it can cause some concerns on cholesterol so that is something I will have to monitor.

    I have never ran Winny or Mast as a cutter, normally just test and dieting, I kinda want to branch out, awesome sense of well being, crazy enhanced sex drive, hardening, fat loss etc. I have a while and am still debating, but with my knees as bad as they are I am going to stay the hell away from Winny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    15% what? im lost sorry lol,
    15% body fat, for the longest time people would say that you need to be sub 10% body fat to see really any benefits from Masteron, lately more and more are saying that even as high as 15% they loved what it did, helped them drop some stubborn fat, gave them that dry hard look and kept water weight down to zilch. I'm probably going to add something to my Test cycle next so im thinking Masteron or NPP have not quite decided yet. This will be another cutter to really get the ol body fat down into the single digits. Havent done that in probably 8 years so I'm pretty stoked lol.
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    oh my bad, yeah i wasn't getting it sorry lol, and yeah i always heard you need to be or should be under 10% to real see the effects, but again never used it lol,
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    Thanks bro, I used NPP/Deca and never had joint issues, when I ran EQ alone with winny I sub'd MSN/Glucosamine when I was on winny, honestly never had any joint issues and I have bad joints as well.

    I cant get single digits on my size without crazy dieting, honestly im not competing and I live where its cold so some Bf is good. If your in that position to have sex a lot then hell yeah the sex drive is a good thing, well-being, and no joint soreness..hmmm I may look into it but honestly price is what kills me on that decision.
    Thanks for the info bro.
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    I've been debating the same thing. I chose the mast e due to less pinning. Gonna run 500mg with 750 test e and 50mg winny/day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powderguy View Post
    Thanks bro, I used NPP/Deca and never had joint issues, when I ran EQ alone with winny I sub'd MSN/Glucosamine when I was on winny, honestly never had any joint issues and I have bad joints as well.

    I cant get single digits on my size without crazy dieting, honestly im not competing and I live where its cold so some Bf is good. If your in that position to have sex a lot then hell yeah the sex drive is a good thing, well-being, and no joint soreness..hmmm I may look into it but honestly price is what kills me on that decision.
    Thanks for the info bro.
    Yeah, im still pretty young so i'll be smashing a lot, well as much as my girlfriend can handle. I am in the central part of the states now, so not really any huge reason to stay lean but that will be changing this year most likely, I will be relocating to the coast, so beach season will be a must to be ripped haha. I am the same way, I have to diet pretty hard to get super lean, but I want to try and stay below 13% even through my bulker this year so I am going to basically "diet" with just upping carbs all year, that is the plan anyways.

    Good to hear about the NPP I have heard so many good things about it I kinda wanna use it instead of the masteron, I don't want to use both since a I am still trying to keep my cycles simple until next year. Got a little time to think about it though. I'll try and do a log on this next one.

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    I've been debating the same thing. I chose the mast e due to less pinning. Gonna run 500mg with 750 test e and 50mg winny/day.

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    Nice bro, let me know how you like it and how it goes. I as well was thinking Mast E for less pinning, I can find it in a decently high Mg/Ml as well so that helps even more. Good luck man.
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    Mast is a great compound. I've only used the Prop ester but it is amazing when you have good Mast. The lower the bf % the more it shines! But if you're 15% or so and would like to run it, don't be afraid too. Combined with Tren it's even better. The 2 are like PB&J lol. If its quality Mast 400mg/wk is perfectly fine

    I love Winny, but its just so hard to train on it! So stiff and everything. That's one benefit Mast has over Winny, but of course Mast is between arond 2.5-3x more depending on your connection if you're a brewer
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    I've been running mast E For almost a year and I love it. I'm pretty lean though. My source dried up so now I guess I'll have to go with EQ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    I've been running mast E For almost a year and I love it. I'm pretty lean though. My source dried up so now I guess I'll have to go with EQ...

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    I know you eat pretty clean year around, I normally do too, but have you noticed any cholesterol issues with it Dude? that would be my 1 concern. It's currently a toss up between Mast E and NPP on my next run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get_Swole View Post
    I know you eat pretty clean year around, I normally do too, but have you noticed any cholesterol issues with it Dude? that would be my 1 concern. It's currently a toss up between Mast E and NPP on my next run.
    My BP, cholesterol, and liver enzymes are fantastic. The best they've been since I started watching them 8 years ago. My diet is pretty good, but I had breaded fish and sweet potato fries last night and that's pretty common for one of my meals a day. What I love is how it totally crushes any sides from Test for me. It really makes you feel amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    My BP, cholesterol, and liver enzymes are fantastic. The best they've been since I started watching them 8 years ago. My diet is pretty good, but I had breaded fish and sweet potato fries last night and that's pretty common for one of my meals a day. What I love is how it totally crushes any sides from Test for me. It really makes you feel amazing.

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    Nice man, sounds fantastic, that's good to hear on the Mast E as well, not many people run it and opt for the prop more it seems. Decisions decisions..... thanks for the info.
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    I've been contemplating running test tren and mast E after the cycle I'm on currently. So getting the feedback for these longer esters is nice.
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    Very good compound to keep you looking good year round. The only downsides is it hurts my cholesterol a bit, but nothing too crazy, and makes me shed. Its a nice compound to run regardless of bodyfat. It keeps you lean, dry, and feeling good. I'll put it up there with test in terms of feel good steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolimitz View Post
    Very good compound to keep you looking good year round. The only downsides is it hurts my cholesterol a bit, but nothing too crazy, and makes me shed. Its a nice compound to run regardless of bodyfat. It keeps you lean, dry, and feeling good. I'll put it up there with test in terms of feel good steroids.

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    It lowered my hdl, and kept my ldl high. If I remember correctly the last bloodwork I got while on mast my hdl dropped down to the low 30's, and ldl was around 160. Usually my hdl stays pretty good, but it seems like mast really drops my hdl even more than tren.
     

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    running mast E now along with tren ace and test E. Ran it many times and loved it everytime. Dont go crazy with the dose because when you come off it will be a bitch. limp as hell. lol. great for labido, i would say that winny hardened me better though. last year i went as high as 1200mg week with mast E. Never do that unless you are competing. I felt great though, crashed when coming off though. Took a while to come back. I currently run about 600mg/wk. I wanna try proviron sometime.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodness View Post
    running mast E now along with tren ace and test E. Ran it many times and loved it everytime. Dont go crazy with the dose because when you come off it will be a bitch. limp as hell. lol. great for labido, i would say that winny hardened me better though. last year i went as high as 1200mg week with mast E. Never do that unless you are competing. I felt great though, crashed when coming off though. Took a while to come back. I currently run about 600mg/wk. I wanna try proviron sometime.

    Those are some serious doses. My friend takes Mast E and said over 900 theres no added benefit other than it will be a bitch to get natural up and going again.
    I wonder how true this is?
    Why that combo? Mast e, tren ace, Test E? Im curious....
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    I ran 400 mast e with 750 mgs test e . Gains were decent dropped body fat significantly. Red count got high and I flushed out the last 4 weeks . I'd use it again personally
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtunderdog View Post
    I ran 400 mast e with 750 mgs test e . Gains were decent dropped body fat significantly. Red count got high and I flushed out the last 4 weeks . I'd use it again personally
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtunderdog View Post
    I ran 400 mast e with 750 mgs test e . Gains were decent dropped body fat significantly. Red count got high and I flushed out the last 4 weeks . I'd use it again personally
    what do you mean by you flushed out last 4 weeks
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    yeah i wasn't sure what the heck that meant either lol
     

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    bump for jt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powderguy View Post
    Those are some serious doses. My friend takes Mast E and said over 900 theres no added benefit other than it will be a bitch to get natural up and going again.
    I wonder how true this is?
    Why that combo? Mast e, tren ace, Test E? Im curious....
    This sounds about right in terms of masteron dosages maxed out benefits to side effects ratio
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    My bf never goes higher than 15% if I'm.bulking but I love mast p faster results
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    I LOVE Mast E run with long acting test 2-1 test/mast ratio...have run it at 700, 560 and 350(which seems like My sweet spot)...anxiety was tough higher
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    man, i still have yet to try Masteron lol, ive been reading such great things for so many years, and all these years keep saying im gonna give it a go , and just never have lol
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    It's pretty amazing. For guys that stay lean in really makes a tremendous difference in your look. So much so that even non gym people notice
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    I’ve had a really good talk With an acquaintance about this. It’s more than just the ester. Hold on I’ll post more in a bit. At the gym now.


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    So i use only mast E but someone knowledgeable told me enanthate bioavailability drops a lot in a longer ester. My argument was that every hormone has conversion rates and degradation rates. It doesn’t change anything. Plus I’ve been on mast e for like 5 years straight and i love it. It definitely makes a difference.


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