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bleepinblop

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Does one need a lot of things to stack to be truly huge or would test at high doses do just fine with a lot of food and proper trainint


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I think presser is right. When you think what tren hgh slin can do to the look of the big boys the question is how huge. I think test will take you a long way. But if you want to play with the big boys then genetics and all the above is going to play apart. Plus never coming of and then trt.
 
I think multiple compounds create a better synergy for optimal results.


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I think presser is right. When you think what tren hgh slin can do to the look of the big boys the question is how huge. I think test will take you a long way. But if you want to play with the big boys then genetics and all the above is going to play apart. Plus never coming of and then trt.

Let's say Arnold's size. 225-230 5-6%. Would 600-750mg alone with a ton of food and hardcore training be enough to achieve that?


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i think 220-230 weight is achievable but the 5% bf and shredded..well thats slighty different.but you know this right..but i will say your pics are on point so cleary your diet is in check.
maybe some one esle a little more experienced can chime in ive not been 5% ever lol..
 
Wasn't Arnold around 5-6% 225? Was thinking of maybe doing 100mg a day of suspension for a bulk with .5mg Adex eod after I run out of tren and cyp.


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Let's say Arnold's size. 225-230 5-6%. Would 600-750mg alone with a ton of food and hardcore training be enough to achieve that?


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that is way enough to acheive that weight and diet and cardio is what will give you the body fat percentages . steroids are just a one of many tools to use if you want 2 become jacked up
 
that is way enough to acheive that weight and diet and cardio is what will give you the body fat percentages . steroids are just a one of many tools to use if you want 2 become jacked up

Of course this is why I don't want to use much. I am done with orals. I'll be sticking to test only for a while. May throw some tren in here at low doses (200mg week ace)


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Of course this is why I don't want to use much. I am done with orals. I'll be sticking to test only for a while. May throw some tren in here at low doses (200mg week ace)


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testosterone only cycles will still yield amazing size and overall gains

lastly, 200mg a week of tren ace, IS NOT A LOW DOSE LMAO. 50mg every other day of tren ace is more than enough to get massive gains, and thats only 150mg per week
 
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Me now, I have discovered how to connect my mind with my muscles. Took me a very long time to get this down, and it just recently hit me (year or so ago). Ever since then my chest has made very good gains and hope it catches up to my arms soon!

I figured 200mg tren was low because most people use 75-100mg eod lol.


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Me now, I have discovered how to connect my mind with my muscles. Took me a very long time to get this down, and it just recently hit me (year or so ago). Ever since then my chest has made very good gains and hope it catches up to my arms soon!

I figured 200mg tren was low because most people use 75-100mg eod lol.


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Well most people are idiots too or young and think more is better. 50mg every other day of tren ace with testosterone at the doses u listed will yield amazing gains so long as u train hard, rest well, and eat like an animal!

And if your going to use test suspension with tren ace, your going to blow the fuck up big time
 
Well most people are idiots too or young and think more is better. 50mg every other day of tren ace with testosterone at the doses u listed will yield amazing gains so long as u train hard, rest well, and eat like an animal!

And if your going to use test suspension with tren ace, your going to blow the fuck up big time

Mostly just test for now and tons of food. But will use tren here and there. Thanks for the advice man!


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Mostly just test for now and tons of food. But will use tren here and there. Thanks for the advice man!


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No problem, anytime brutha! and for the record, 99% of all my cycles have been just testosterone propionate, and once in a while i will toss in tren ace 50mg EOD, and very very rarely i will add winny to the prop, and tren, and I am ALWAYS on IGF-1 lr3 which makes the cycle ten times better by upregualting receptors, and when i come off the gear i stay on the igf and it helps me stay full and keep every last gain I've made. So if u don't use igf-1 lr3 , it is something you should seriously consider
 
No problem, anytime brutha! and for the record, 99% of all my cycles have been just testosterone propionate, and once in a while i will toss in tren ace 50mg EOD, and very very rarely i will add winny to the prop, and tren, and I am ALWAYS on IGF-1 lr3 which makes the cycle ten times better by upregualting receptors, and when i come off the gear i stay on the igf and it helps me stay full and keep every last gain I've made. So if u don't use igf-1 lr3 , it is something you should seriously consider

Honestly out of all gear, nothing makes me feel bigger or mentally better than testosterone. Combined with tren it's nasty. Love it. But even if my test is low and I have tren in the mix, I don't feel as swole as I do on let's say 600. I can feel the difference in 1-2 days no joke.


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Honestly out of all gear, nothing makes me feel bigger or mentally better than testosterone. Combined with tren it's nasty. Love it. But even if my test is low and I have tren in the mix, I don't feel as swole as I do on let's say 600. I can feel the difference in 1-2 days no joke.


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yeah I don't doubt that one bit daddio!
 
So you guys are certain, if I was on a budget (800mg test a week costs less than test+tren) and I decided to run 600-800mg test a week by itself with an a.i I could achieve the mass gains I wanted ? I just feel like other compounds are needed but yet again 800mg of test is a ton and should turn anyone who's eating into a machine?


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Does one need a lot of things to stack to be truly huge or would test at high doses do just fine with a lot of food and proper trainint


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In my books less is more. I have made my best gains with 600 test e, 250 deca, and debol for the first 6 weeks. Cycle lasted 12 weeks, 12 weeks off then run it again. Training and nutrition is the key! There is a point of no return when it comes to anything including AAS.
 
So you guys are certain, if I was on a budget (800mg test a week costs less than test+tren) and I decided to run 600-800mg test a week by itself with an a.i I could achieve the mass gains I wanted ? I just feel like other compounds are needed but yet again 800mg of test is a ton and should turn anyone who's eating into a machine?


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absolutely brutha! I mean don't get me wrong theirs nothing like tren ace, propionate, winny, and igf-1 lr3, but 90% of all my cycles throughout my life have been just me on propionate at 200mg every other day, and at my best i sat at a solid 320+lbs and fairly lean, most all my photo album pictures are of me just on Propionate! so yes as long as u train hard, eat well and rest well, testosterone is all ya need!

But i would step on stage without stacking compounds, another words you could get up to a massive weight and all muscle on test only, and then cut down for a show using test, term, winny, igf, mast maybe,

long story short, testosterone is all anyone needs to build an impressive physique
 
absolutely brutha! I mean don't get me wrong theirs nothing like tren ace, propionate, winny, and igf-1 lr3, but 90% of all my cycles throughout my life have been just me on propionate at 200mg every other day, and at my best i sat at a solid 320+lbs and fairly lean, most all my photo album pictures are of me just on Propionate! so yes as long as u train hard, eat well and rest well, testosterone is all ya need!

But i would step on stage without stacking compounds, another words you could get up to a massive weight and all muscle on test only, and then cut down for a show using test, term, winny, igf, mast maybe,

long story short, testosterone is all anyone needs to build an impressive physique

I agree, sounds good I'll keep the test at 750-800 with Adex .5mg 3-4x a week and when I diet down for a show I'll be sure to add some anavar in (my favorite oral) thanks brotha your jacked for sure!!! My goal is to be as big as Arnold and have similar aesthetics.


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