My public view on ECA

The Survivor

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I've never shied away from telling a close circle of friends that I juice at times....although I would never admit it to anyone who I thought could use it against me. That being said and being a gym owner, I write a monthly column in local paper, all on fitness etc. One topic I'd like to address is what folks may use for energy and fat burning capabilities. I use ECA stack from time to time but I'm not sure I want to advise folks to use it, especially the Ephedrine part although it is legal now. BTW people who OD'd on it yrs ago were taking many times recommended dosages

So should I do the controversial thing and write my September column on safely using the ECA stack? Or would I be liable if the unspeakable occurred? I would put a thousand disclaimers in the article. Or maybe I should rip on planet fitness LOL....which isnt advisable as although there isn't one in my market, there are 2 in a city 30 miles away and I would bound to offend someone
 
I love eca if the user can't read the lable and follow directions then that is on them bro I say write up a thread on it and it may help people learn something from it
 
I would write the article and let them know of the dangers and benefits-you might keep someone from being stupid
 
Post it up when it's done bro.
Lets see your handy work
My handy work? I can weld pretty good and my drywall turns out good too bro!! Yes I will, all the articles I've done recently were online but I think they drop off as new content goes in place of it....but I can see if its still in my email...

I'm limited to 500 words per space, really not a lot.
 
I could not agree more on clen sucking! Clen and I are at an impass, clen wants to kill me and I do not want to die. Clen refuses to negotiate on its stance, so we parted ways. :)

As for the article, as long as you tell both the pros and cons and make sure to mention that ephedrine is illegal in many areas, so check your local laws before purchasing, you should be fine.
 
I think its a decent idea to write about an ECA stack, however and its a HUGE however, the Traditional ECA stack arose when it was legal to buy Ephedrine without the expectorant Gaufinessen in it!

Now every 12.5mg ephedrine has to have 200mg Gaufinessan , guafinessan isn't that great for you, and if you do the write up i would also mention you get more per mg with HCL over sulfate ephedrine

anyhow i would like to hear this to and GOD how i wish we could buy ephedrine without that gaufinesan garbage in it
 
I think its a decent idea to write about an ECA stack, however and its a HUGE however, the Traditional ECA stack arose when it was legal to buy Ephedrine without the expectorant Gaufinessen in it!

Now every 12.5mg ephedrine has to have 200mg Gaufinessan , guafinessan isn't that great for you, and if you do the write up i would also mention you get more per mg with HCL over sulfate ephedrine

anyhow i would like to hear this to and GOD how i wish we could buy ephedrine without that gaufinesan garbage in it
Whats issue with Guafinssan in case someone asks....I'm waiting for some nut job call me and tell me I'm encouraging drug use here, then point to Primatine and tell me how wrong I am to tell folks to use it other then inteneded purpose. Like I said, its kind of a conteversial thing, maybe just what the newspaper wants LOL
 
You'll probably get some negative energy but it will come from those who lack knowledge. I do feel ECA is much more tolerable then Clen. However the two combined work wonders for me. I used to experiance splitting headache from clen until I found a more reputable RC company.

Better then telling them about DNP LOL
 
I'm a clen lover here! Stuff works amazing! Although the appetite increase is not always ideal when I'm trying to cut. Lol
I'm gonna try ECA my next cut. I used ephedrine way back in the day. I remember that stuff being very powerful!


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I'm a clen lover here! Stuff works amazing! Although the appetite increase is not always ideal when I'm trying to cut. Lol
I'm gonna try ECA my next cut. I used ephedrine way back in the day. I remember that stuff being very powerful!


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wait…what? Clen increases your appetite bro?? Ive never heard anyone say that
 
wait…what? Clen increases your appetite bro?? Ive never heard anyone say that

Yes! It's crazy! I want to eat all the time and when I do I can eat a small horse! I'll eat a large pizza and the next day wake up more shredded. Clen was amazing for me how it let me eat so much and still shred up. FYI pizza was a rare thing when cutting but you get the idea.


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Yes! It's crazy! I want to eat all the time and when I do I can eat a small horse! I'll eat a large pizza and the next day wake up more shredded. Clen was amazing for me how it let me eat so much and still shred up. FYI pizza was a rare thing when cutting but you get the idea.


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Damn most everyone, no correct that, everyone i know who used clen says it suppresses their appetite, though i get how you could get hungry from the clen burning all those calories , but man when I'm all hopped up on ECA and I've used clen twice for short time and i didn't want to eat for shit man. I guess everyone is different, but I'm pretty sure clen suppressing appetite is pretty universal, or at least i thought it was lol
 
I can eat a 4lb burger in 1 sitting with 1lb of chili cheese fries without any gear or gh or gh peptides.
Clen personally doesn't change my appetite much, but ECA does for sure. I've stacked the two together for the past 2 weeks and I actually puked yesterday trying to force feed myself my 3rd meal (10oz fish, 1/4 cup of rice).
 
OK I'm no Hemingway, but heres the finished product that was in last wks paper...only negative (if you call it that) was from another PT in town, but I got it smoothed out w/him, so no biggie. If I'm going wrong ob anything, LMK OK?
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Evaluating the ECA Stack



I'm frequently asked questions regarding energy drinks and fat burners. First there are no magic bullets despite media claims. Busting your butt in the gym and disciplined eating trumps any of the latest fads. Energy should come from within not from out. But to gain an edge, lets look at what many consider the King. ECA is an acronym for Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin. When used in appropriate dosages, this somewhat controversial concoction will provide outstanding energy and will speed up your metabolism via Thermo-Genesis (raising your body temperature to burn fat)




First the disclaimers....get a Dr permission before you begin any exercise program and inform him you intend to use this cocktail, be sure your body can tolerate the ECA stack and teenagers need not apply. Check your local laws for availability and legalities of Ephedrine.




Ephedrine is a naturally occurring sympathomimetic amine (huh?) found in the Ephedra genus plant, including Chinese herb ma huang. Its DNA is close to adrenaline and stimulants yielding benefits and drawbacks. Ephedrine took a major hit many years ago when a small percent of users died from it. It was discovered the deaths were dose related as bad things happen when you use 4-5 times past what was advised. It was outlawed for a short time but now is back albeit smaller dosages. Danish researchers found that the fat loss was more than twice as great with exercisers when taking Ephedrine as opposed to the group who didn't use it. It is now back being sold over the counter including in the popular medicine Primatine. Many confuse Ephedrine with the now banned Fenfluramine/Phentermine known as Fen-Phen which was popular many years ago. Rest assured Ephedrine is much safer.




Caffeine is well known as a stimulant readily available in capsule form or in many drinks. It too takes a hit as it spikes ones appetite which is easily negated by increasing your daily protein intake.




Aspirin, known as a blood thinning analgesic is sold in countless stores.




If you decide to take your Ephedrine via Primitine, you are required to sign for it. The only drawback here is that a while back Primatine started putting the expectorant Gaufinessan in it which isn't very good for you. Also be 100% sure you use the HCL and not the Sulfate. Take 25 mg.




Next ingest 200-400 mg of caffeine via capsules, coffee or tea




Lastly, is Aspirin, if your stomach revolts a standard 325 mg, as what is preferred, switch to baby Aspirin which is 81 mg which will suffice.


Stop use with any heart palpitations or any other adverse reactions. Stick with recommended dosages and hand tremors usually cease over time. Take this upon waking so immediate effects wear off by bed time. Working out is not optional, its required for optimal fat burning capabilities. Be advised because you are raising your core temperature, you will perspire often and your heat tolerance will become zippo.




Good luck with this and all your fitness endeavors!
 
OK I'm no Hemingway, but heres the finished product that was in last wks paper...only negative (if you call it that) was from another PT in town, but I got it smoothed out w/him, so no biggie. If I'm going wrong ob anything, LMK OK?
**********************************************************************************************************************************++

Evaluating the ECA Stack



I'm frequently asked questions regarding energy drinks and fat burners. First there are no magic bullets despite media claims. Busting your butt in the gym and disciplined eating trumps any of the latest fads. Energy should come from within not from out. But to gain an edge, lets look at what many consider the King. ECA is an acronym for Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin. When used in appropriate dosages, this somewhat controversial concoction will provide outstanding energy and will speed up your metabolism via Thermo-Genesis (raising your body temperature to burn fat)




First the disclaimers....get a Dr permission before you begin any exercise program and inform him you intend to use this cocktail, be sure your body can tolerate the ECA stack and teenagers need not apply. Check your local laws for availability and legalities of Ephedrine.




Ephedrine is a naturally occurring sympathomimetic amine (huh?) found in the Ephedra genus plant, including Chinese herb ma huang. Its DNA is close to adrenaline and stimulants yielding benefits and drawbacks. Ephedrine took a major hit many years ago when a small percent of users died from it. It was discovered the deaths were dose related as bad things happen when you use 4-5 times past what was advised. It was outlawed for a short time but now is back albeit smaller dosages. Danish researchers found that the fat loss was more than twice as great with exercisers when taking Ephedrine as opposed to the group who didn't use it. It is now back being sold over the counter including in the popular medicine Primatine. Many confuse Ephedrine with the now banned Fenfluramine/Phentermine known as Fen-Phen which was popular many years ago. Rest assured Ephedrine is much safer.




Caffeine is well known as a stimulant readily available in capsule form or in many drinks. It too takes a hit as it spikes ones appetite which is easily negated by increasing your daily protein intake.




Aspirin, known as a blood thinning analgesic is sold in countless stores.




If you decide to take your Ephedrine via Primitine, you are required to sign for it. The only drawback here is that a while back Primatine started putting the expectorant Gaufinessan in it which isn't very good for you. Also be 100% sure you use the HCL and not the Sulfate. Take 25 mg.




Next ingest 200-400 mg of caffeine via capsules, coffee or tea




Lastly, is Aspirin, if your stomach revolts a standard 325 mg, as what is preferred, switch to baby Aspirin which is 81 mg which will suffice.


Stop use with any heart palpitations or any other adverse reactions. Stick with recommended dosages and hand tremors usually cease over time. Take this upon waking so immediate effects wear off by bed time. Working out is not optional, its required for optimal fat burning capabilities. Be advised because you are raising your core temperature, you will perspire often and your heat tolerance will become zippo.




Good luck with this and all your fitness endeavors!

I think it pretty much covered the basics for the laymen reader or casual gym goer! So two thumbs up.

What did this PT have to say if you don't mind saying ???
 
He's a PT from local YM, he tans here, came in and said that he took exception to the article and that he would never tell someone to take Ephedrine as it gave made his heart speed up. I just explained I didn't say to take it, merely informed folks on how to take and the benefits and adverse reactions from it. He agreed and it was dropped.

Think the ECA was shocking, wait until next time and I write on my steroid and GH use!! (Just kidding, there would be a public lynching with me on the wrong end of the rope LOL)
 
well at least you two could chat civil ya know, these days thats a rarity
 
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