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    Default Baking Soda as a Supplement.

    Some of you have inquired about this in another topic so I figured we would move the discussion here and not clog the other topic up.

    In a nutshell baking soda is an alkalizing agent and reduces acidity in the blood. This enables the blood to draw more of the muscle fatiguing acid off the muscle and increase the muscles endurance.

    If someone wants to copy and paste this here go ahead I'm on my phone and can't right now.


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    Baking Soda: The Performance Supplement You Are Missing

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    When we hear “baking soda,” we think of laundry detergent, cleaning supplies, and the stuff we put in refrigerators so they don’t smell bad. But baking soda has other uses as well, especially in regard to fitness and fatigue.

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    The Chemistry of Sodium Bicarbonate


    There are a few things about chemistry you need to know before discussing baking soda (I promise it’s not crazy). First, a few facts:

    Baking soda is also known as sodium bicarbonate
    This is written as NaHCO3 chemically.
    Baking soda is alkaline, or basic.

    Now let’s talk abut buffers. In chemistry, buffers resist pH change by neutralizing added acid or added base. Buffers contain significant amounts of both a weak acid and its conjugate base. A conjugate base is part of a reaction where one part of the compound transforms into the other by gaining or losing a proton. The conjugate base gains or absorbs a proton in this chemical reaction.

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    We’ve all heard about lactic acid, but as new science shows, it’s not the cause of muscle fatigue as originally thought. The actual cause of muscle fatigue is the process of an exercise-induced decrease in pH, which is also known as metabolic acidosis. (The lower the pH the higher the acidity.)

    Complete fatigue may occur with lactate concentrations between 20 and 25 mmol/L, and some cases more than 30 mmol/L following multiple dynamic-exercise sessions. There are other factors that cause an increase in H+ but since we are strictly talking about lactate, we will stick with this.

    Baking Soda and Fatigue


    According to Food and Nutrition Sciences, a build-up of acid inside the muscle cell is a factor responsible for muscular fatigue. Thus, the total muscular capacity is limited by the progressive increase in acidity within the muscles caused by an accumulation of lactate and H+ ions. This inhibits energy transfer and the ability of muscles to contract. The body’s defense against this is bicarbonate buffers, which help neutralize the acid produced by intense exercise.

    Since baking soda is an alkalizing agent, it reduces the acidity of the blood (the buffering action). This action may be able to draw more of the acid within the muscle cells out into the bloodstream, and thus reduce the level of acidity within the muscle cells. This in turn can delay the onset of fatigue.

    "The body’s defense against this is bicarbonate buffers, which help neutralize the acid produced by intense exercise."


    This would benefit athletes whose intensities range between 80-125% of peak oxygen uptake. People within this category regularly stress the anaerobic glycolysis system, which produces a lot of acidity. So, think of your sprinters (swimming, cycling, or running) CrossFitters, Olympic lifters, and even those who do high intensity interval training on a different platform.

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    Does Baking Soda Prevent Performance Decline?


    A study conducted by the Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition tested baking soda supplementation on tennis athletes. Prolonged tennis matches result in fatigue, which invariably impairs skilled performance.

    Nine male college tennis players were recruited for this randomized crossover, placebo-controlled, double-blind study. The participants consumed baking soda (0.3 g. kg-1) or sodium chloride (0.209g. kg-1). On their third match, the participants were given an additional supplementation of 0.1g. kg-1 of baking soda or 0.07g. kg-1 of sodium chloride. The study called for the Loughborough Tennis Skill Test, which was performed before and after each simulated match.

    The Results


    Post-match bicarbonate and base excess were significantly higher in the bicarbonate trial than those in the placebo trial.
    Blood lactate significantly increased in the placebo and bicarbonate groups.
    The match-induced change in blood lactate was significantly higher in the bicarbonate trial.
    Blood pH remained unchanged in the placebo trial, but was significantly increased in the bicarbonate trial (remember the pH scale), which indicated a more alkaline environment.

    "This study suggests that bicarbonate supplementation could prevent the decline in skilled tennis performance."


    In regard to tennis performance, service and forehand ground stroke consistency scores declined significantly after the simulated match in the placebo trial, while in the bicarbonate trial these elements were maintained. The match-induced declines in the scores were significantly larger in the placebo trial than those in the bicarbonate trial.

    Looking at the forehand and backhand ground strokes combined, the consistency scores showed a trend of decrease after the simulated match in the placebo trial, while it increased slightly in the bicarbonate trial. This study suggests that bicarbonate supplementation could prevent the decline in skilled tennis performance.

    Can Baking Soda Enhance Power Output?


    A study conducted by the British Journal of Sports Medicine sought to assess the effect of sodium bicarbonate ingestion upon repeated bouts of intense, short-duration exercise.

    Twenty-three subjects participated in this study, which included eight females and fifteen males, aged at 21.4 ±2.3. Subjects completed six trials, three following the ingestion of sodium bicarbonate (300mg/kg bodyweight) and three following the ingestion of a placebo (8g of sodium chloride or salt). Each trial consisted of ten, ten-second sprints on a cycle ergometer with a fifty-second recovery between each sprint.

    "Peak power output was also greater in the bicarbonate trial, with it being significantly higher during the final ten-second sprint."


    The bicarbonate trial produced higher mean average power outputs in all ten of the ten-second sprints, with the difference in average power output being statistically significant in eight of these. The results also revealed that the difference in the average power outputs attained during the bicarbonate and placebo trials increased as the number of sprint repetitions increased.

    Peak power output was also greater in the bicarbonate trial, with it being significantly higher during the final ten-second sprint. It was concluded that during exercise consisting of repeated, short-duration sprints, power output was enhanced following the ingestion of sodium bicarbonate.

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    How to Introduce Baking Soda Into Your Life


    Some of you may be thinking, “I’m going to buy a huge tub of baking soda and put it on everything.” Please, don’t do that. Ingesting too much baking soda can cause unpleasant side effects such as vomiting, gastrointestinal discomfort, bloating, and diarrhea. If you don’t drink enough water, vomiting and diarrhea are common side effects. Even small amounts of baking soda can cause GI distress depending on your body. In addition, you should always contact your primary care manager before you add any supplement into your routine.

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    Now that I have given you a bit of a disclaimer, the normal recommendation is that you need one liter of water when ingesting 0.3 grams per kilogram of body mass. The water will help with absorption and decrease your chances of GI distress. Baking soda does not linger around the body, so it’s important to take it and work out about an hour or so later. Don’t take it and then train five hours later.

    Summary


    Baking soda is nothing new. This type of supplementation has been around since the 1970s, but it’s making its way back into the fitness mainstream. The benefit of being able to push through that last bit of a workout and the decreased recovery time may be worth it for you. Plus, baking soda is rather cheap compared to some of the other supplements out there that claim the same effects. Just take a trip to your primary care manager first to clear yourself to introduce this supplementation into your life.



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    Who knew I'm gonna give it a run see what happens thanks for the thread brothers.
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    Gonna try also, Thanks Masher59
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    Don't go crazy off the bat do the math to find your target then work your way up to it. I did take too much before and got the shits pretty bad. I mix it in a few ounces of water and mix a whole grape sugar free powder packet for flavoring water with it then down it. 30 min to an hour before you workout. I've found when I'm off cycle it really helps knock down on the soreness and recovery time and when on I at least think I get through those workouts with almost no rest between exercises and sets more easily.
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    If you have low stomach acid to begin with, you would not want to do this since you won't digest your food very well. Or, at least time it so you aren't taking it too close to a meal.
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    It use to be popular during nfl combines when maxing out reps on bench to prevent lactic acid build up, old school stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    If you have low stomach acid to begin with, you would not want to do this since you won't digest your food very well. Or, at least time it so you aren't taking it too close to a meal.
    This is correct also but the good thing with it is it is so fine that it doesn't stay in the stomach long and enters the bloodstream very quickly as far as your meals are concerned.

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    It use to be popular during nfl combines when maxing out reps on bench to prevent lactic acid build up, old school stuff
    Yes we do show our age with some of the stuff we do lol.
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    Thx Masher59 I'm going to give that a try myself.
     

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    great I have experience with baking soda s it was in one of pre workout and now i will give it a solo run, thanks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masher59 View Post
    This is correct also but the good thing with it is it is so fine that it doesn't stay in the stomach long and enters the bloodstream very quickly as far as your meals are concerned.

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    Yes we do show our age with some of the stuff we do lol.
    speak for yourself I'm only 20 years old! lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    speak for yourself I'm only 20 years old! lmao
    You wish lol
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    On a side note. I use baking soda to change my ph levels when feeling sick. With kids we have our fair share of flu during the winter months. Anytime I start to get that "feeling" I immediatly taking baking soda and I never get the flu.

    The theory goes that virus's can only live in our bodies at certain PH levels........................drastically change the PH levels (which baking soda will do) and it kills the virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    On a side note. I use baking soda to change my ph levels when feeling sick. With kids we have our fair share of flu during the winter months. Anytime I start to get that "feeling" I immediatly taking baking soda and I never get the flu.

    The theory goes that virus's can only live in our bodies at certain PH levels........................drastically change the PH levels (which baking soda will do) and it kills the virus.
    makes sense from what all i know about ph levels and other substances like the acetic acid for igf needs to be a certain ph level for optimal life of the peptide, so i guess the same can be said for a virus, anyhow good stuff bro!
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    Fellas, quite a few years ago I tried this baking soda regimen and it really upset my stomach. You must find that threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEE GASPARI View Post
    Fellas, quite a few years ago I tried this baking soda regimen and it really upset my stomach. You must find that threshold.
    I couldn't agree more. This is a case of more is not always better; slowly up your dose until you find your sweet spot.
     

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    Great thread right here. Always learning something new.
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    Very interesting. Would be great to get some more feedback from those that have done this
     

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    i don't really see the point unless your being tested on reps
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    Quicker recovery and more endurance. I think I read something where Kai Greene said he trains to failure every set so lets apply. If it works as advertised then you could possibly get an extra rep or more per set. Now this doesn't sound like much per workout but diving deeper into the muscle time and time again will pay off over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    If you have low stomach acid to begin with, you would not want to do this since you won't digest your food very well. Or, at least time it so you aren't taking it too close to a meal.
    Then I should be good. I have crazy heartburn all the time. Maybe this will help with that as well, by calming all that acid down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHead View Post
    Then I should be good. I have crazy heartburn all the time. Maybe this will help with that as well, by calming all that acid down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHead View Post
    Then I should be good. I have crazy heartburn all the time. Maybe this will help with that as well, by calming all that acid down.

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    It definitely works for this been doing it since I was a kid. Heavy red sauce always gives me heartburn.
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    Thanks guys, I'll try both. I've got bad heartburn right now.

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    I heard if you wash it down with white vinegar it helps with digestion





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jozifp103 View Post
    I heard if you wash it down with white vinegar it helps with digestion





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    Lmao that would be very bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeatherHead View Post
    Lmao that would be very bad.

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    That would kill!! I use baking soda and white vinegar to unclog sinks.....................The reaction is cool to watch.

    I would like to see this a a dare after some heavy duty drinking. Now that would be a party trick.
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    Tastes awful lol can't imagine doing this for a long period of time. I would rather just use beta alanine
     

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